Subject: Israel – The Throwback

Even if it did enter Israel territory we cant open fire and dont want to as well. :)

It is ok to take control over a ship in international waters. It is a well used operation that is permitted in a blockade according to International laws.

can stop but not to start boarding on the ship.... so they have to wait till they pass 1-2 km in the israeli wanter and kill everything thats moves on the ship... and the goods that are on the ship can be taken as trophy.

IHH is financed by terror org's and is aiding terror orgs.

becuase of that, IHH, placed people (who happen to be turkish) who were trained by terror orgs on the boat to cause havoc and violence.

Why Nin? Because the truth about the peaceful activists aboard the Maramara is starting to come out. Because Israel is slowly emerging from this, not as bad as one/you wanted? Because the original thread about "Israeli Terror" was deemed appropriately offensive yet this one is not?

Because you are, by your own admission, trolling. Because it's the same old s**t in every thread from both sides. Because it's pointless repeating it all.

It's strange how they think we are influenced by propaganda while it's clearly the other way around :)

Need prove? Ofcourse, with souce and all.

Spiegel 04/23/2010 - Interview with Israel's Chief Censor

You have propaganda at many levels, but if journalists starts with selfcensorship your country free media is in really deep shit, and I'm not even talking about the fact that journalists have to hand in their article to get checked ...
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i agree with nin. some one close this
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Shooting some one should be done only at the life risking situation and I promise you thats what IDF is doing. If one of the soldiers didnt do it he should face trail. I know our troops and I know our legal system, execution isnt somthing a soldier will do.

When you kidnap a solider using a knife this is enough of a life threatening situation in my opinion, isnt it in your mind ?

The soldiers had bullets wounds, Israel didnt went public with it for two reasons.
1. is because they did, you just didnt hear about it, like most people didnt.
2. Most of the bullets found on the soldiers were from IDF guns :(

the matter is not only that they belive we are influenced by propaganda...matter to me is that they think they can not be influenced by propaganda( dont know why), so if they cant they 100% have the reason. Thats the matter in they way of thinking imo

watch this to learn about the IHH

I am a law student I can tell you we apply the same censorship America has.
It has to be "imminent certainty of actual harm to state security

okay, i can admit that exists an organization called IHH, and that uses terror.

but again, how it is possible so many europeans thinking its Ok to help this islamic guys? when they are agnostic? just that

how many europeans that are not turks were on the boat? i dont really know

i mean: is hard to me to belive that many europeans can think in going on a boat organized by a islamic organization. people i know that would like palestina free is people who dislikes religions, including islamics of course.

only one reason could be, again, reasonable to me: this europeans were lied.

But for beliving this i would need sth wich prove it

Valenciano I think your a very bright guy and if you will get the entire story you will be convinced.

You dont always know who your traveling with, and lets face it for five out of 6 ships this trip was about lifting gaza blockade. But it doesnt change the outcome it was an attempt to make a scene, they didnt care to die and even wanted that. 72 virgins, that is better then life.



We have the worst propaganda in the world, looks like no one cares about it in Israeli government.
maybe this will help you
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/israel-navy-3-commandos-nearly-taken-hostage-in-gaza-flotilla-raid-1.294114

well of course i dont have any prejudicies agaisnt israel , in fact i dont belive in races neither ethnics, so of course if u prove i can belive it :)

im gonna read it ;)

Your logic is both correct and incorrect. Lifting the blockade will help Hamas not the Palestinians, this read on this subject please. Hamas is a terror organization and the blockade is on ever since he rised to power after a violent coup.

I advise you to hear our president peretz speak at a conference with Erduan.
This will show you what I mean.

http://www.youtube.com/v/_K4ObigaMo8&feature=related
any chance you could paste it in here, I dont know how.

Thank you very much
It is all over you tube
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