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i already shouted a few times when i saw messages about how BP struggles and lies everytime
lol, BP is generally more expensive where i live anyways :P
Well, this is what happens if people drill for oil. The only good thing of this all is that more oil is lost and can't be used anymore :)
Almost the whole of the Netherlands and Belgium fits in that oil spill.
Well, this is what happens if people drill for oil. The only good thing of this all is that more oil is lost and can't be used anymore :)
It will be burnt instead...
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It will be burnt instead...
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@ Visconte
the most irritating thing about is the way BP is solving this, all they care is about their company and profit. i sure hope BP is going to be shut down and people responsible for this will be punished.
Possibly a little short sighted?
BP is a major UK corporation, and because of this pretty much every pension fund, general fund, fund of funds and most other investment vehicles that invest in the London stock market have money invested in BP.
BP's dividend payments are THE major source of income for almost any income generating-investment product traded on the London stock exchange.
If there were to be serious financial reprecussions for BP, then this would have a real impact on most UK consumers.
So if you consider that Greece's economy tanking wobbled the global financial markets, you can only guess what might happen if one of the G8 ecomomies hit the buffers.
Besides, leaving the financial argument aside ...they didn't set out to leak the oil. They had protective systems in place, but they failed. Yes, there is a valid point that they weren't up to scratch, but as has already been mentioned these pipes are 2 miles below sea level - it's not like you can just pop down there daily to check on them.
I don't imagine BP's safety procedures are radically different to any of the other oil giants, so I guess a disaster on this scale could happen to any of them. So do we shut them all down to prevent a repeat?
Can I presume that you don't drive (unless you have an electric car?), never use public transport and have absolutely no use for plastic? Otherwise, you need to take a reality-check. We all use oil, that's why they're drilling down there in the first place. This disaster is the risk that comes with it.
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the most irritating thing about is the way BP is solving this, all they care is about their company and profit. i sure hope BP is going to be shut down and people responsible for this will be punished.
Possibly a little short sighted?
BP is a major UK corporation, and because of this pretty much every pension fund, general fund, fund of funds and most other investment vehicles that invest in the London stock market have money invested in BP.
BP's dividend payments are THE major source of income for almost any income generating-investment product traded on the London stock exchange.
If there were to be serious financial reprecussions for BP, then this would have a real impact on most UK consumers.
So if you consider that Greece's economy tanking wobbled the global financial markets, you can only guess what might happen if one of the G8 ecomomies hit the buffers.
Besides, leaving the financial argument aside ...they didn't set out to leak the oil. They had protective systems in place, but they failed. Yes, there is a valid point that they weren't up to scratch, but as has already been mentioned these pipes are 2 miles below sea level - it's not like you can just pop down there daily to check on them.
I don't imagine BP's safety procedures are radically different to any of the other oil giants, so I guess a disaster on this scale could happen to any of them. So do we shut them all down to prevent a repeat?
Can I presume that you don't drive (unless you have an electric car?), never use public transport and have absolutely no use for plastic? Otherwise, you need to take a reality-check. We all use oil, that's why they're drilling down there in the first place. This disaster is the risk that comes with it.
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I still hope they will get to pay for all of the damages. If only to keep future accidents from happening and to keep other companies on their toes.
Can I presume that you don't drive (unless you have an electric car?), never use public transport and have absolutely no use for plastic?
Yes you can presume that. I sold my car 4 years ago. I go to work by bike and offcourse I sometimes use public transport.
And stop with the economic reasons. It's time the world wakes up and sees that there are more important things than a financial crisis.
Yes you can presume that. I sold my car 4 years ago. I go to work by bike and offcourse I sometimes use public transport.
And stop with the economic reasons. It's time the world wakes up and sees that there are more important things than a financial crisis.
Firstly, the question wasn't directed at you, but since you answered...
(apologies if I'm wrong as I haven't visited Belgium) but isn't your county a fairly compact and flat? This would make providing a unified public transport system both cheaper and easier to accomplish. However, this isn't the case throughout Europe, let alone the world ...in some rural parts of the county in England that I live in, its a 40 to 50 mile drive to the nearest hospital, and 20 to 25 miles to the nearest high school ...and there isn't a public transport network to rely on. What do you suggest these people do... walk or cycle?
Also, its naive to ignore the ecomic reasons - whether you like it or not we live in a global economy and a financial crisis would affect you. I think too many people take our (western european) standard of living for granted - Everything has a price, and yes maybe the price has gotten too high, but we can't just rewind the clock or say forget the oil. We need to find a viable alternative first.
(apologies if I'm wrong as I haven't visited Belgium) but isn't your county a fairly compact and flat? This would make providing a unified public transport system both cheaper and easier to accomplish. However, this isn't the case throughout Europe, let alone the world ...in some rural parts of the county in England that I live in, its a 40 to 50 mile drive to the nearest hospital, and 20 to 25 miles to the nearest high school ...and there isn't a public transport network to rely on. What do you suggest these people do... walk or cycle?
Also, its naive to ignore the ecomic reasons - whether you like it or not we live in a global economy and a financial crisis would affect you. I think too many people take our (western european) standard of living for granted - Everything has a price, and yes maybe the price has gotten too high, but we can't just rewind the clock or say forget the oil. We need to find a viable alternative first.
And my hidden point was that this is excellent time for companies who develope alternative energys to come out of the shade of oil companys. World would hear them alot more now. I just hope that it will happen at some point in current situation, and what concerns conglomerates (as BP is as you said) i just hope it will be divided, future doesnt need monopolic companys as they are now. Smaller is sometimes better :)
What is happening there? Everything is a mess... There happens nothing... BP is thinking about burning the gathered oil but the source is still leaking. In Meanwhile Obama is just 'mad' and is pointing a little finger while he wants to approve new sources in the Gulf. In the meantime nobody seems to care.
What is happening with all of us. Where are we going. Very sad games about politics and money with deep consequences for mankind...
this is human race... :-) We want look like "humans" but we are animals ...
What is happening with all of us. Where are we going. Very sad games about politics and money with deep consequences for mankind...
this is human race... :-) We want look like "humans" but we are animals ...
Whether good or bad, oil is used for a myriad of products other than gasoline. making plastic etc, along with other products illustrates the necessity of oil. While the development of alternative energies is necessary, just like coal, oil will be a commodity that will always be in demand, and its production will be held by large conglomerates, much like every other major commodity in the globalized economy...
I don't imagine BP's safety procedures are radically different to any of the other oil giants, so I guess a disaster on this scale could happen to any of them. So do we shut them all down to prevent a repeat?
They should close most of them.
Can I presume that you don't drive (unless you have an electric car?), never use public transport and have absolutely no use for plastic?
I don't drive and a lot of the buses here are electrical buses (electricity producers here don't use oil).
I use some products containing plastic but I try to avoid plastic as much as I can (specially for products that contain food or go over the skin). Also some of the plastics are made from corn or from other plastics (recycle).
They should close most of them.
Can I presume that you don't drive (unless you have an electric car?), never use public transport and have absolutely no use for plastic?
I don't drive and a lot of the buses here are electrical buses (electricity producers here don't use oil).
I use some products containing plastic but I try to avoid plastic as much as I can (specially for products that contain food or go over the skin). Also some of the plastics are made from corn or from other plastics (recycle).
Oil is also used for the food industry. Unless is organic, the food needed oil to be produce, specially fertilizers and pesticides.
Burning oil in cars and other is going to be a really bad problem in the near future, without oil we lost lot of chemical components that we use to develop products.
We need oil, but we should be using it for other purposes and not to burn.
BTW, if we don't use oil we help to fix some of the worse problems in the world like Darfur.
Burning oil in cars and other is going to be a really bad problem in the near future, without oil we lost lot of chemical components that we use to develop products.
We need oil, but we should be using it for other purposes and not to burn.
BTW, if we don't use oil we help to fix some of the worse problems in the world like Darfur.
methinks BP are going down though, already lost like 10 billion dollars worth of shares or something?