Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

9/11 was same fail like nuclear weapons in Iraq, just home made reason to attack somebody.
In case 9/11 there is just one sure fact and it is that that building collapses, but way how it was done is for longer discussion
and i really dont believe that CIA was not informed about this action before (that's why they maybe help to make this action with less consequences)
And you can tell me, do you really belive that aircraft crashed in Pentagon ? I have serious doubt about it.


But there is another problem. CIA is using lies for many years as tool for their war politics, so tell me why the world should believe whatever USA said, if we all know that they are mostly lying or not tell whole truth ???

Holocaust was real :-)


the UN voted for military action in Libya. It passed the UN Security Council.
UNO allow to create non-flight zone, attacking so much land targets including trying to kill leader or his family was not allowed (his son is dead now)

so dont tell me that UNO allow that ugly attacks on Kaddafi forces but also civil inhabitants in Libya as NATO and others are doing.
(like hospital in Misurata)

There was also another article about very poor trained rebels which are launching their missiles on Kaddafi forces on blind, so they
are unfortunately hitting a lot of civil targets....


USA politics is warmonger and use lies as a tool to persuade masses /sheep ....


(rubinho: this have nothing with people, Americans, this is just about that I dont like lying and wars for resources and for power)

Do you realize how much money the citizen has lost?

how much % it is according to war costs in last 3 wars by USA :-) ??

And I will not give you answers how they did it everything. You must ask your government but I can give you an example: If there are lot of cameras around Pentagon and in wide area why there is no picture/video of that plane (video as plane is flies on pentagon) (maybe, just video from gas station near Pentagon, or from another resource). Why power-lines near Pentagon "in line of plane falling down" on pentagon was not damaged... there are so much weird questions that it is normal that a lot of people know now that not everything about 911 is truth but I am not that man who will reveal all lies. I and lot of people on world know that US gov is lying and it is your duty to ask your government for next detail and ask them why they are not able to explain some things....

maybe this is interesting...




I will tell you something about europe. If such a accident would have happen in europe, all states would ask for detailed investigation with much of pictures, videos and analyses so that nobody can doubt about it, doubt about what really happens. But US government is different, they will tell just short story and all another material/analyses they rather destroyed or close and they tell to people that this is official statement and every doubts are just conspiracy theories :-)

I know that there are a lot of conspiracy theories :-) but the main role of US gov is to show all fact to nobody can doubt, if somebody is making secrets there is not everything ok.

It is same like nuclear mistakes in Iraq :-). US government with so much agents and technique was SURE that Hussain have nuclear weapons, but nobody find them in Iraq :-). Later US gov / CIA just tell to people, "we made mistake, our information was fail" and thousands of people are dead :-(.

fire of melting steel is around 1370 - 1510°C.
Fire of burning oil is about 650°C in normal condition, with some additives for bigger fire/temperature is can be max 1000°C.

Check it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel
http://education.jlab.org/qa/meltingpoint_01.html
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/fuels-ignition-temperatures-d_171.html


So burning fuel can not start melting the steel. In some cases it can start to change its shape, but there is no way how can building start falling down just because of burning fire. That skyscraper can change its shape maybe and up part of building can go down and destroy whole building but we could have seen interesting direct falling down.




fire can change shape of steel like this:


but that building collapsed like there was some explosion at the middle and whole building started to falling down, directly down.



Also this picture can show us, that it seems like there was some explosion and not just that steel melted down and because of this up part of building started falling down.




Please dont ask me how they did it, maybe explosives was there, or maybe at the plane was some additive material which can caused high burning temperatures or maybe there was some missile, I DONT KNOW. What I know, that just because of fire that building can not fall down directly.


In the interview for Seatle Times in 1993 John Skiling (John Skilling, head structural engineer) said:

Our analysis indicated the biggest problem would be the fact that all the fuel (from the airplane) would dump into the building. There would be a horrendous fire. A lot of people would be killed, ... The building structure would still be there.

John Skilling, head structural engineer of WTC
Twin Towers Engineered To Withstand Jet Collision, Seatle Times, February 27, 1993,
link: http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930227&slug=1687698




look also this video please :-)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1884833077905339077#

is this a FACT or just an opinion? to me, you stating this 'fact' is propaganda.

You also need to straighten your facts, Bin Laden fought the USSR with the help of CIA, this is well known, not even a secret anymore.

Fake 9/11 ? I am not sure what the heck you mean. Are you saying that 9/11 was fake?
and I guess you believe that the Holocaust was not real?

Saying 9-11 was fake is a bit strange, everyone could see it happen. The real story is the question, do we also know that or is there more politics and secrets behind. Just as the holocaust, it happened but also enough questions like the true number of deads.

Don't believe internet blindly, go and talk to a real architect. Your working in construction right? Ask some colleagues that knows everything of designing and strengths of materials. I think you will be surprised how stupid you feel afterwards for believing the conspiracies of internet about the collapse.
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"fake 9/11" means, that it was not as official media said.
1. something had to help to that building can collaped, not just fire
2. plane accident in Pentagon is really very doubtful

But the most important thing is, that if we can see that official statements about 9/11 is not clear truth, the question is why are they lying to us ? Did they cooperate on 9/11 to make nice world reason for attacking other countries ?

my colleague told me, that all construction could changed its shape, and up part could fall down next to rest of building (sorry of my english :-( ), all building would be of course damaged but some part of it (he have meant some floors) had to remain that what we could see as all building is falling down directly was not natural way how it could happen (mainly because there are that steel beams/grids.


not my words, his words (he is making big block of flats for 30 years in his career :-) )

Bin Laden was connected to CIA and Bush family

is this a FACT or just an opinion? to me, you stating this 'fact' is propaganda.

It is a well known fact

very weak and tedious connection. Doesnt mean anything at all.

It'd be like saying that the guy in Britain who worked for BA that got arrested for planning to blow up BA planes, had a connection to BA. So what if he did? Doesnt mean BA were planning to blow up their own planes.

All women that know their rapists, they had a connection to them. So what?

yes, it is all about propaganda.... somebody believe to all government propaganda easily and somebody are trying to find out more information and maybe truth :-).

Nobody here wanted to answer on that fail story about nuclear weapon in Iraq :-)
Imho, it is clear evidence that US govs told us fake story just for reason of starting war there. And if government lies to us once, they can make it twice and more times :-)

You are really unbelievable.



@ Americans: Pleas ignore this Slovak moron, most of the other Europeans do not 'think' like him.

very weak and tedious connection. Doesnt mean anything at all.

Bin Laden was trained by CIA, Al-Qaeda was pretty much formed by CIA, Bush Sr. made bussiness with Osama and was in personal contact with him etc.

Weak and tedious, yeah...

Source? Other than crackpotorgy.co.uk?

there is no needed to introduce you to us...we all know who you really are :)

:-)