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Common, stop joking. Nobody honestly believes in FSM. Its purpose is not that. FSM is a parody religion and its purpose is to mock religion in general. This ID is just another mockery and official government documents should not be the media for mockery. That makes such government a joke too. That's why I mentioned the satire or parody movie "Idiocracy". This ID looks like it's taken from that movie and not from real world serious country that wants to be valued and respected.
Dude, I am not joking. If someone says he really believes in FSM, who am I to say that is impossible? The FSM is as plausible as your god for me. Tell me what the difference between FSM and christianity is. And keep in mind that 'FSM is a parody religion' is not an argument, 'cause then I'll say christianity is a parody religion too. A country should not intervene in private matter as religion. If religious symbols are accepted on the photo's, then this must be allowed, or otherwise there would be discrimination. Or you allow ALL religious symbols or you allow NO religious symbols. You cannot say - without being discriminating - that christian symbols are allowed and FSM symbols aren't.
Yes there is. Every person declares its religious orientation. But you cannot claim to be a penguin, a jedi warrior or a fun loving criminal. These are not religous orientations and neither is FSM. FSM is atheism making a silly face. It's a childish sabotage of religion in general.
Actually, you can claim those things. For religious neutral people, they are as likely as your religion. So once again: tell me what the difference is.
Oh, yes, the almighty scientists. So you believe that wisdom comes along with intelligence and education? It's time again for a little semantics education.
No, but there is at least a bond between the two.
And how and what made it start to evolve and who defined the principles by which it would evolve? Do you know of anything that exists and evolves without being created first? How reasonable really is to expect that something appears out of thin air? Puff! "Hello everybody! I just made myself!" LOL
Indeed, LOL it is. You're joking, right? Even the Catholic Church has accepted evolution to be true ...
Dude, I am not joking. If someone says he really believes in FSM, who am I to say that is impossible? The FSM is as plausible as your god for me. Tell me what the difference between FSM and christianity is. And keep in mind that 'FSM is a parody religion' is not an argument, 'cause then I'll say christianity is a parody religion too. A country should not intervene in private matter as religion. If religious symbols are accepted on the photo's, then this must be allowed, or otherwise there would be discrimination. Or you allow ALL religious symbols or you allow NO religious symbols. You cannot say - without being discriminating - that christian symbols are allowed and FSM symbols aren't.
Yes there is. Every person declares its religious orientation. But you cannot claim to be a penguin, a jedi warrior or a fun loving criminal. These are not religous orientations and neither is FSM. FSM is atheism making a silly face. It's a childish sabotage of religion in general.
Actually, you can claim those things. For religious neutral people, they are as likely as your religion. So once again: tell me what the difference is.
Oh, yes, the almighty scientists. So you believe that wisdom comes along with intelligence and education? It's time again for a little semantics education.
No, but there is at least a bond between the two.
And how and what made it start to evolve and who defined the principles by which it would evolve? Do you know of anything that exists and evolves without being created first? How reasonable really is to expect that something appears out of thin air? Puff! "Hello everybody! I just made myself!" LOL
Indeed, LOL it is. You're joking, right? Even the Catholic Church has accepted evolution to be true ...
Maybe you're not joking but what you're saying is stil a joke. FSM is not a religion but a parody religion. The same as you cannot have citizenship of Blutonia because there is no such country, so you cannot declare yourself as Pastafarian as there is no such religion. That's the difference. You are all free to make your parody religion evolve to a real religion but at the moment of its creation and until now it is stil not a real religion. Even Christianity was not a religion when there was only Jesus and his 12 pupils. It might have all fallen apart then. Fortunately, there is only 1 Juda in 12 apostles and so it evolved to become a religion after Jesus created it.
The same with universe. Nobody denies evolution as you're persistently trying to imply here. The universe had to be created before it started to evolve. I am asking you once again: do you know of anything that exists and evolves without being created first?
The same with universe. Nobody denies evolution as you're persistently trying to imply here. The universe had to be created before it started to evolve. I am asking you once again: do you know of anything that exists and evolves without being created first?
ok what came first "the chicken or the egg?"
Maybe you're not joking but what you're saying is stil a joke. FSM is not a religion but a parody religion. The same as you cannot have citizenship of Blutonia because there is no such country, so you cannot declare yourself as Pastafarian as there is no such religion. That's the difference. You are all free to make your parody religion evolve to a real religion but at the moment of its creation and until now it is stil not a real religion. Even Christianity was not a religion when there was only Jesus and his 12 pupils. It might have all fallen apart then. Fortunately, there is only 1 Juda in 12 apostles and so it evolved to become a religion after Jesus created it.
So ... if one writes a book about FSM (how earth was created etc., like the bible for christians, the koran for muslims, ...) and then waits for hundreds of years (more and more people follow the FSM theory), then it will become a religion according to you?
The same with universe. Nobody denies evolution as you're persistently trying to imply here. The universe had to be created before it started to evolve. I am asking you once again: do you know of anything that exists and evolves without being created first?
Big bang theory. And of course we don't know it all, science isn't a standstill in contrary to religion.
So ... if one writes a book about FSM (how earth was created etc., like the bible for christians, the koran for muslims, ...) and then waits for hundreds of years (more and more people follow the FSM theory), then it will become a religion according to you?
The same with universe. Nobody denies evolution as you're persistently trying to imply here. The universe had to be created before it started to evolve. I am asking you once again: do you know of anything that exists and evolves without being created first?
Big bang theory. And of course we don't know it all, science isn't a standstill in contrary to religion.
Whichever came first, I am sure it did not create itself. What do you think?
About religion:
Richard Dawkins: The Root of All Evil
Richard Dawkins: The God Delusion
Richard Dawkins: Why are We Here?
Very interesting to watch :)
nice :)
As much as his points are interesting, he delivers them like Mitch does. so he annoys me
I don't agree. Yes he is fanatic but realistic and that is good :)
Richard Dawkins: The Root of All Evil
Richard Dawkins: The God Delusion
Richard Dawkins: Why are We Here?
Very interesting to watch :)
nice :)
As much as his points are interesting, he delivers them like Mitch does. so he annoys me
I don't agree. Yes he is fanatic but realistic and that is good :)
ok what came first "the chicken or the egg?"
The egg ofcourse, only an embryo can evolve from something that looked like a chicken into a chicken ;)
The egg ofcourse, only an embryo can evolve from something that looked like a chicken into a chicken ;)
do you know of anything that exists and evolves without being created first?
And what about God? If nothing can be created out of nothing how can he exist ?? ;)
EDIT: ofcourse there was something before the big bang, only our universe started then. No one knows what was before that, yet.
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And what about God? If nothing can be created out of nothing how can he exist ?? ;)
EDIT: ofcourse there was something before the big bang, only our universe started then. No one knows what was before that, yet.
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So ... if one writes a book about FSM (how earth was created etc., like the bible for christians, the koran for muslims, ...) and then waits for hundreds of years (more and more people follow the FSM theory), then it will become a religion according to you?
According to me. something conceived as a parody does not stand a chance to become what it tried to mock. Let's put it like this, real religions accept each others as such. You will know Pastafarianism is a real religion when that happens.
Big bang theory.
Big bang theory is a cosmological theory holding that the universe originated approximately 20 billion years ago from the violent explosion of a very small agglomeration of matter of extremely high density and temperature.
So, again, who or what created "a very small agglomeration of matter of extremely high density and temperature"?
And of course we don't know it all, science isn't a standstill in contrary to religion.
LOL you should have been born in medival times. It's not fair that you live in 21st century.
According to me. something conceived as a parody does not stand a chance to become what it tried to mock. Let's put it like this, real religions accept each others as such. You will know Pastafarianism is a real religion when that happens.
Big bang theory.
Big bang theory is a cosmological theory holding that the universe originated approximately 20 billion years ago from the violent explosion of a very small agglomeration of matter of extremely high density and temperature.
So, again, who or what created "a very small agglomeration of matter of extremely high density and temperature"?
And of course we don't know it all, science isn't a standstill in contrary to religion.
LOL you should have been born in medival times. It's not fair that you live in 21st century.
And what about God? If nothing can be created out of nothing how can he exist ?? ;)
Well, I don't know but He's the one that's almighty and not "a very small agglomeration of matter of extremely high density and temperature". ;)
Well, I don't know but He's the one that's almighty and not "a very small agglomeration of matter of extremely high density and temperature". ;)
But he can't create himself according your own statement.
And you think in beginning and end, but that's not how the universe is. That's the limitation of many people's way of thinking. If a tree dies it's recycled, if a sun dies it's recycled, if a universe dies .... ;) Maybe this is how it is ..
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And you think in beginning and end, but that's not how the universe is. That's the limitation of many people's way of thinking. If a tree dies it's recycled, if a sun dies it's recycled, if a universe dies .... ;) Maybe this is how it is ..
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According to me. something conceived as a parody does not stand a chance to become what it tried to mock. Let's put it like this, real religions accept each others as such. You will know Pastafarianism is a real religion when that happens.
Pastafarianism accepts the other religions ... And I still haven't found an objective standard which you'll use to determine if someone can wear certain religious symbols (the Austrian guy).
Big bang theory is a cosmological theory holding that the universe originated approximately 20 billion years ago from the violent explosion of a very small agglomeration of matter of extremely high density and temperature.
So, again, who or what created "a very small agglomeration of matter of extremely high density and temperature"?
See what Charles said, apparently something can create itself (God) according to you. So that is not a reason to reject big bang theory (if I follow your logic).
LOL you should have been born in medival times. It's not fair that you live in 21st century.
You can lol whatever you want, you only do that when you don't know what to say. Which is quite often.
Pastafarianism accepts the other religions ... And I still haven't found an objective standard which you'll use to determine if someone can wear certain religious symbols (the Austrian guy).
Big bang theory is a cosmological theory holding that the universe originated approximately 20 billion years ago from the violent explosion of a very small agglomeration of matter of extremely high density and temperature.
So, again, who or what created "a very small agglomeration of matter of extremely high density and temperature"?
See what Charles said, apparently something can create itself (God) according to you. So that is not a reason to reject big bang theory (if I follow your logic).
LOL you should have been born in medival times. It's not fair that you live in 21st century.
You can lol whatever you want, you only do that when you don't know what to say. Which is quite often.
Lol :-)
I know it was total crap again, but was it that offensive?
I know it was total crap again, but was it that offensive?
But he can't create himself according your own statement.
He exists beyond this world and by our perception ability he is eternal and almighty within our universe. That is all we are able to perceive but He exceeds by far the merits of our universe. For our universe it is anyway completely irrelevant what he can or cannot do outside of it. This universe is His creation. How could any reasoning abilities He gave us define Him in any other way but only related to our world we are able to perceive? This is as if you would expect from an artificial intelligence to answer any possbile question about humans. AI could answer only questions a human would enable it to answer.
And you think in beginning and end, but that's not how the universe is. That's the limitation of many people's way of thinking. If a tree dies it's recycled, if a sun dies it's recycled, if a universe dies .... ;) Maybe this is how it is ..
Huh? Tree recycling? Sun recycling?
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He exists beyond this world and by our perception ability he is eternal and almighty within our universe. That is all we are able to perceive but He exceeds by far the merits of our universe. For our universe it is anyway completely irrelevant what he can or cannot do outside of it. This universe is His creation. How could any reasoning abilities He gave us define Him in any other way but only related to our world we are able to perceive? This is as if you would expect from an artificial intelligence to answer any possbile question about humans. AI could answer only questions a human would enable it to answer.
And you think in beginning and end, but that's not how the universe is. That's the limitation of many people's way of thinking. If a tree dies it's recycled, if a sun dies it's recycled, if a universe dies .... ;) Maybe this is how it is ..
Huh? Tree recycling? Sun recycling?
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