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Your point is? That stopping the riotters where the police cant handle it is a bad thing?

Not sure how the pathetic non-links to brievik has anything to do with anything either, i could go into great details about how pathetic anyone is who seriously believes there is a link any stronger than the EDL and Brievik both didnt like islamic extremism.

The articles words, not mine. But at least admit that the link between hooliganism and EDL is well established. You've heard of Casuals United, I presume?

And let's make a bet. I'll give you a 1000 £ for each example you can find of me defending or praising the rioters - if you give me 10 £ for each example I can find of you defending or praising violent hooligans or far-right nationalists.

Deal?

if you make that, you slamming people that have done nothing wrong but try to protect their own houses that caused no trouble and stopped violence happening then you're on.

It's just unbelievable how you can say that innocent people are bad people. Disgusting really, would you protect your own home if it came under attack or hand over all your belongings and let your house get burnt down? Simple question.

and yeah, i know Casuals United.
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My point is, that the firms aren't there to protect anything. They're hoping for a fight. Or secondly to just score some cheap points before the season. Have you actually seen them defend anything? Or are they just boasting and "showing force" with the lads?
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Anyways...

There's a friendly match between Denmark and Scotland, that I really want to watch - peacefully on my couch.

So if you don't mind I'll try to make good of my promise to ignore you. And hope the police can stop the rioters - or at least make good use of all your CCTV in the coming days.

cheap points with who? Seeing as they are all uniting and not even the 'firms'. They are just English people making a stand, look the people in the videos and pictures there, local men and women supported by other local men and women. The group in Eltham started as just 50 football fans after their game got cancelled, then locals came to join all night resulting in numbers of 400.

They defended their areas, the places didnt get touched, a few tried and quickly left. No attacks, no violence and an end to the riotting. They weren't hoping for a fight, but they were willing to fight, there's a big difference. If they wanted a fight, they would have joined the riotters and attacked the police. Your points show no logic.

I´m actually glad Denmark lost today. I hope you are as much as sad as you are an idiot.

It takes more than a football defeat and a couple of children with bad language to ruin my day. :)

and if you needed any more proof that you were just wrong.
http://www.enfieldindependent.co.uk/news/localnews/9185945.Vigilante_group_marching_around_Enfield/?ref=mc

I was there and I'm black. There were a lot of white men and women there were also black, Asian, Eastern Europeans. People from all walks of life. It was a peaceful march until 2 black men tried to attack the crowd with what looked like hockey sticks and another black man on the opposite side threw a bin in the crowd and then pulled out a knife!! As far as I was aware it wasn't supposed to be about race! It was about people saying enough is enough we will stand up for what is right.
Even then the crowd were relatively calm and people were shouting that the idea was to show how to demonstrate without violence or retaliation. As a crowd we had to get the police to get out of their vehicles to come and deal with the situation!

Stop trying to make something out of this that it isnt. These aren't race riots, you dont live here and you know little, so just shush.

It's funny how you qoute a comment from the commentary section - instead of the actual article:


A group of around 500 men - wearing white t-shirts - started marching from Hertford Road in Enfield Highway at around 8pm.

As the group headed towards Enfield Town, they picked up drinkers from pubs along the way - some of which were reportedly offering half-price drinks.

The group reached the Tesco store in Southbury Road, where they turned around, seemingly after meeting riot police.

They are now marching back along Southbury Road out of the town centre, where witnesses heard chants of "EDL" - a reference to the far-right English Defence League.

Motorists hooted their horns in support of the group as they marched out of the town centre.


But sure - any anonymous nobody on the internet is always right, right? Waaay more trustworthy and objective than the media, right?

And just to state the obvious (at least to reasonable people who actually read other people's postings):

I've never called this a race riot. The facts are, that it's anything but.

Most compelling evidence is, that the three men killed at a gas station were all muslim decendants of immigrants. And the widespread video of an injured man beeing robbed by thugs pretending to help him is showing a Malaysian (probably also muslim) student beeing robbed by a man, who's clearly white. (And who by the way is wearing clothing very similar to the standard football casual uniform - just as a side note).

All I've said is, that the football hooligans pretending to be public defenders now, are viewing the riots as some kind of race war. Feel free to go back in the thread to check it. Not that I think you will. You've shown a strong will to distort and misrepresent anything I've said in this discussion.

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yeah, because the article is quite clearly utter garbage, seeing as every single person disagrees with what was said, because they were there.

Dont see what the bolded bits are for. They wore white t-shirts? Wooaaah.

Yeah, they were killed after disturbances in the area with riotters, a black bloke has been nicked so dont try and pin that on anything. And a guy wearing a cap? Wow, you are such a mug, seriously.

And seeing as the pictures and reports clearly show black and white going out together, they dont see it as a race war at all. Birmingham zulu's went out today, now, do you need an explanation of who the zulus are and their history? Because saying the zulus are part of a race war is like saying monkeys are part of saturns rings.

I really hope that English firms mobilize and overtake those dirty rioters, best to Asia and Africa.

Great respect for Millwall for their actions in recent days. Unfortunately I do not know if other teams also do something in this direction.

I'd love to hear then the weeping and wailing all of Europe's left-wing useful idiots:)
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You really are slow, dude. Please read what I write - or stop replying, thank you very much. I haven't called it a race war.

And I just noticed you live in Lincolnshire. Or at least that's what your team page says. So unless you've since moved to one of the major cities (or even areas) affected, lets just agree that the riots aren't happening in any of our back yards, ok?

All I've said is, that the football hooligans pretending to be public defenders now, are viewing the riots as some kind of race war.

^^ whats that if its not saying race war? Even if you're saying its other people that think it, who are you to say what other people think? You're speaking crap.

And no, it's happening nowhere near me. Got friends caught up in it though.

Let's refresh the memory. This is what I've said, that you're basing your entire argument on:

It's a fact, that a huge chunk of the football firms, you're praising, are outright racists. Quite a lot even leaning towards neonazi sympathies. And them beeing on the forefront of vigilantilism now is probably caused a lot by them thinking, that they're in some kind of race war.

If you can't distinguish between stating, that a part of the vigilante crowd probably think they're fighting a race war, and actually stating that there's a race war going on, we're just on different levels. And there's no real point in continuing this discussion.

Not that there's much point anyway. It's clear you're not here to discuss, but just to shout insults. So I think I'll be going to bed now. Nighty night.

no, whats clear is that you have no basis for anything you say, it's all presumptious garbage. You're trying to tell me what people think and whats happening and passing it off as fact, when you dont have a clue what they think and the actual facts show you to be talking garbage.

I'm not here to insult, i'm here too educate and re-lay the facts and stop vicious rumours from spreading, like yours, that are liable to make the situation worse.