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Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

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2011-08-19 13:45:01
Yeh, hide 'save' inside a tent :S

Photos Pukkelpop 2011: jangeloen.blogspot.com.
2011-08-19 14:12:21
Look at the first 30 seconds ... clearly all terrorists (children!!!) :S



Hamas claims they have nothing to do with the attacks on Israeli (mainly SOLDIERS), it was the Resistance Committees (wiki) that is operating on it's own. On the Dutch news they told the attack of this group was coordinated from the uncontrolled part of Egypt, not even Gaza. But who cares, shoot at Gaza. And ofcoure the US and EU condemned the attacks on Israel and urges restraint on both sides. Were is the condemnation to Israel by the US and EU for murdering innocent children AGAIN and AGAIN???
2011-08-19 14:17:50
I doubt however AlJazeera is a good and objective source :)
So you believe Hamas has nothing to do with it? ;-)
2011-08-19 14:21:33
I'm just interested why do you see a difference between the innocent children and adults, who are mostly also innocent. It's a same story for me.

On the Dutch news they didn't told something different as Al Jazeera .... There isn't a more objective independent news agency in the Arab countries as Al Jazeera. Ridicules to claim they are not.

And yes I believe so. If Hamas did this attack they would have said so, there is no need to lie they didn't attack the enemy if they did. But there are more groups that hate Israel and fight them, not only Hamas.
And yes I believe so. If Hamas did this attack they would have said so, there is no need to lie they didn't attack the enemy if they did.

What about some good old-fashioned propaganda?
2011-08-19 14:33:40
Ofcourse, there is no difference between a child and a soldier ....... :S
He asks you what the difference is between an innocent child and an innocent adult who isn't a soldier.
What propaganda? What would Hamas win by not claiming this attack? They are already the enemy.

And the Resistance Committees (wiki) are real, and they also attack israel. Why didn't they do the attack but it must be Hamas? I think you just believe some good old-fashioned propaganda .... the israeli propaganda!
What propaganda? What would Hamas win by not claiming this attack? They are already the enemy.

What about the support of the international community? Propaganda works unfortunately.

And the Resistance Committees (wiki) are real, and they also attack israel. Why didn't they do the attack but it must be Hamas? I think you just believe some good old-fashioned propaganda .... the israeli propaganda!

And I think you are not being very honest here. I've never claimed to believe either side of the conflict. I don't trust the Israeli sources just like I don't trust the Palestinian sources. Apparently you believe one side, I believe neither.

Typically thinking; I'm questioning Hamas, so I must be pro-Israel.
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2011-08-19 16:17:46
but of a one sided and naff 'explanation' of things there.

Where's your condemnation of the coordinated and sustained terrorist attack on Israel, that killed innocent children?
let me sum this up for myself:

Resistance Committees (wiki) (NOT controlled by Hamas) attacked several targets, including a bus transporting israeli soldiers and tourists (which moron decided to transport tourists in a bus with soldiers in a country at war?), a army-vehicle that was part of a military patrol and a civilian car. But only the civilian car is wrong to attack, absolutely, the other targets are all legitimate targets in war as they are military. Those dead tourists can be blamed on israel and no one else as every normal thinking person would never transport tourists in a bus with soldiers in a country at war!!

The ones who did these attacks were chased by the israeli army and at least 7 of them were killed (also 2 innocent Egyptian security personnel working at the border). And yes, it was the Resistance Committees, Shin Beth confirmed at least 4 of the 7 dead are leaders of this Resistance Committees, not Hamas!

As retaliation of these attacks (remember, the guilty are already shot dead and israel knows!!!!) the israel army opens fire on Gaza (AGAIN) even knowing it wasn't Hamas, and killing at least 7 more Palestinians, not soldiers but civilians, inclusive children AGAIN.


Children died for nothing, absolutely nothing and now the discussion is about 'propaganda' and 'Hamas', but it should be about these unnecessary dead :S I really don't understand what happens with well thinking and overall good informed people, what you are, when israel becomes the subject :S Something in these peoples heads goes completely wrong if you ask me. The first thing I see is an overaggressive unnecessary bombardment as a response to a militant action with dead children as the consequence, and I see the same as anyone else ....

And about the 'not being very honest' part, I believe the Dutch news as they have access to many news agencies. Although my country is run by many terrible zionists, the news is still independent. So if you doubt they tell me the most probable truth (in this case: it wasn't Hamas), you apparently believe another story. But indeed, maybe I should have asked first, who do you believe then?

EDIT: took out the misused link I made in this text in response to Rubinho.
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Children died for nothing, absolutely nothing and your answer is 'propaganda' and 'Hamas' :S WTF ...

This shows us - or at least it shows myself - that you are incapable of interpreting someone else's pov. You are misusing my quotes (I never answered the death of children with 'propaganda', never, and I never will; however, you claim that I've done that), and therefore, I have no interest in going further into this with you.

Were is your heart? :S

Right where it should be. I sometimes wonder myself where your mind is.

Edit: now I've read your whole post, and I must say, the Palestinians are doing a great job.

(And yes, I'm in favor of an independent Palestinian state based on the '67 borders, Gaza and Westbank. Only difference between you and me is that you only see the war crimes of one side where I'm not blind for the war crimes both sides are committing.)
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2011-08-19 18:25:58
(which moron decided to transport tourists in a bus with soldiers in a country at war?)

the tourists themselves feel safer when traveling with soldiers