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people like Rumpil think they can get away with statements like "Hitler was a great statesmen as under his command No Jew ever was on welfare or was without a job."
It is so full of crap but technically you can speak like it and say it is correct.
This blinded view is common amongst communists and socialist...and all western people should unerstand and comprehend that teir freedom and independence was not send from socialism or communism, but from kapitalism.
It is so full of crap but technically you can speak like it and say it is correct.
This blinded view is common amongst communists and socialist...and all western people should unerstand and comprehend that teir freedom and independence was not send from socialism or communism, but from kapitalism.
people like Rumpil think they can get away with statements like "Hitler was a great statesmen as under his command No Jew ever was on welfare or was without a job."
this is quite well analyzed, especially when he told us that he can compare riots in UK and rebels in Libya ( I had the giggles )
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this is quite well analyzed, especially when he told us that he can compare riots in UK and rebels in Libya ( I had the giggles )
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I agree with rumpil
Most people just believe in any crap they hear or see on TV. Plus they are so judgamental that they are not able to accept any other points of view. How easy is to manipulate with crowd through mass media then ...
Most people just believe in any crap they hear or see on TV. Plus they are so judgamental that they are not able to accept any other points of view. How easy is to manipulate with crowd through mass media then ...
Most people just believe in any crap they hear or see on TV. Plus they are so judgamental that they are not able to accept any other points of view. How easy is to manipulate with crowd through mass media then ...
and the rest of people just believe in any crap they hear or see in cospiracy theories. Plus they are so judgamental that they are not able to accept any other points of view. How easy is to manipulate with crowd through mass media then ...
and the rest of people just believe in any crap they hear or see in cospiracy theories. Plus they are so judgamental that they are not able to accept any other points of view. How easy is to manipulate with crowd through mass media then ...
Why are you talking about conspiracy theories :) ?
I was just talking about EU aggresion on independent state. Where do you see consp.theory?
After couple of years history and wiki will describe this just as EU attack against Libya because their leader was not serving EU interests.
Look now how world is thinking about / looking on nuclear weapons in Iraq :) or doubtful aspects in 9/11 case and staring "war against terrorist". Just wait and history will reveal true like in this last cases.
I was just talking about EU aggresion on independent state. Where do you see consp.theory?
After couple of years history and wiki will describe this just as EU attack against Libya because their leader was not serving EU interests.
Look now how world is thinking about / looking on nuclear weapons in Iraq :) or doubtful aspects in 9/11 case and staring "war against terrorist". Just wait and history will reveal true like in this last cases.
What did people in england want if not changing in government. Say me. I was listening on youtube like that people in protest were talking about better government which give them work, money and less taxes. Where is the difference?
No mike, I just hate aggresion, truth based on power and missiles and violence. That is all.
Then they didn't try the peaceful means. They were not just standing on the streets with banners and stuff but destroying properties of third-parties. Reason enough for action, I'd say.
riots in England didnt care at all about their governement. Basically, they just wanted smartphones/TV/stuff for free. For example, all PhoneHouse kind of shop were primary target for them, when others like food shop was kept totally intact.
If you want a new gvt, you have to vote, not stole high tech stuff.
In any case, you cannot compare young people fighting for fun and smartphones kewl stuff, and young people fighting a dictator.
If you want a new gvt, you have to vote, not stole high tech stuff.
In any case, you cannot compare young people fighting for fun and smartphones kewl stuff, and young people fighting a dictator.
and let me add that of course there are people in England suffering about the crisis and unemployement ... But these people was not burning cars and shop, they were not stealing stuff, most of them are educated people, and they respect the english law and democracy.
About riots, we had exact same in Paris few years ago, and trust me, these people was destroying suburbs just for fun and money, not for getting a job or changing the gvt.
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About riots, we had exact same in Paris few years ago, and trust me, these people was destroying suburbs just for fun and money, not for getting a job or changing the gvt.
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I think we can conclude that as always the middleway will probably be the correct one.
The coalition of the willing went to do good but of course not (only) for their beautiful smile ;-).
And yes creating space for freedom is a good thing, if they fuck it up at least they had the chance.
And yes the coalition gained resources etc by helping (yes it was helping, the locals did the greater part). And yes probably they had counted on that.
Does that make the effort bad? Well maybe.
I think what they did was good, rumpil will disagree.
But let us all agree that we disagree =p
The coalition of the willing went to do good but of course not (only) for their beautiful smile ;-).
And yes creating space for freedom is a good thing, if they fuck it up at least they had the chance.
And yes the coalition gained resources etc by helping (yes it was helping, the locals did the greater part). And yes probably they had counted on that.
Does that make the effort bad? Well maybe.
I think what they did was good, rumpil will disagree.
But let us all agree that we disagree =p
Ruige, I agree with you.
As I said here I dont like hypocrisy, if more people in EU say it like you did then it will be correct information. But this action is shown to public like just help them get out evil Quaddaffi and that is just brainwashing.
We also shouldnt forget on the fact that France and Italy were friend of Quaddafii , something had to changed if they turn they standings and human rights can not be that factor, the regtime there was same and stable..
As I said here I dont like hypocrisy, if more people in EU say it like you did then it will be correct information. But this action is shown to public like just help them get out evil Quaddaffi and that is just brainwashing.
We also shouldnt forget on the fact that France and Italy were friend of Quaddafii , something had to changed if they turn they standings and human rights can not be that factor, the regtime there was same and stable..
yeah Stalin and Mao were also very stable..the numbers of people they killed were persistent .
It is not hard to see that most violent turnovers, revolutions as you wish, are (partly) motivated with socialist ideology....there is promiss in the air that " everything will become more honest and better shared.
Poor people think that they will than recieve lots of goods and money(is that socialism motivation?)
ofcourse in the end, in each society those poor people will be the poor people...eventhe richest of societies had poor people, if they are not common,they will enter themselves from elsewhere...
so giving money to poor people is never helping them much.
People who think EU has a hidden agenda, are plain stupid.
It is not hard to see that most violent turnovers, revolutions as you wish, are (partly) motivated with socialist ideology....there is promiss in the air that " everything will become more honest and better shared.
Poor people think that they will than recieve lots of goods and money(is that socialism motivation?)
ofcourse in the end, in each society those poor people will be the poor people...eventhe richest of societies had poor people, if they are not common,they will enter themselves from elsewhere...
so giving money to poor people is never helping them much.
People who think EU has a hidden agenda, are plain stupid.