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Till the world is governed by power, idea of domination and selffish way of life (self-centeredness), future will not changed.
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Yes, as I said it is impossible to have pure communism, that what we know is something what should looks like communism. Reality is that people are not equal so system based on this assumption is unreal. But system where people are equal and have same oportunities can be happy, but this is just dream to have. Do you understand me?
Communism was nice theory based on unreal assumptions, so it was never turned to reality. This dream just helped for creation of system which should look like communism but was the most evil system.
Communism was nice theory based on unreal assumptions, so it was never turned to reality. This dream just helped for creation of system which should look like communism but was the most evil system.
And also in this evil form of communism there were people happy and not just that top people. A lot of people like system where state is taking care about you and your thinking, a lot of people were happy cos they have flat,work and family. It was their choice to be happy in such an enviromnment.
To complete your idea of communism, i'd say that could give real this utopia, is to abolish the system of value used and to abolish private property instaured a long time ago by human beings.
People who need self realization, own bussiness or own "head/thinking" can not he happy there. In case you can not emigrate I can say there was not meet basic conditions for be happy as a choice.
Yes, dream was just abused, thatvwas communism. "Nice unreal try." That system could work just if human race can be equal,honesty and fair. But human being are varoius so such a system cant work.
I can't belive you (all) are still talking about communism.
Think something new!!!
Start from what do you need!
I need democracy, peace, freedom of speech, freedom of going everywhere I like to go, safety, work, free and fair news, water, food, medicinal, free school, free internet access
I do not need state boundaries, army, war, religion in politics, extreme liberal policies, United nations and all those not democratic institutions it leads, FMI and World Bank, trade agreements between states, stock financing system (it must be always clear who are behind the money that rules this wordl).
I have to stop people accumulating too much power (whatever his source is: money, weapon, politic), people starving without anything, people without the right to talk, to go, to buy, to work at a decent salary, people gaining resources without doing anything..
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Think something new!!!
Start from what do you need!
I need democracy, peace, freedom of speech, freedom of going everywhere I like to go, safety, work, free and fair news, water, food, medicinal, free school, free internet access
I do not need state boundaries, army, war, religion in politics, extreme liberal policies, United nations and all those not democratic institutions it leads, FMI and World Bank, trade agreements between states, stock financing system (it must be always clear who are behind the money that rules this wordl).
I have to stop people accumulating too much power (whatever his source is: money, weapon, politic), people starving without anything, people without the right to talk, to go, to buy, to work at a decent salary, people gaining resources without doing anything..
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Moreover, as far as human is controlled by his entire desires to be satisfied, communism will not be real... Consumerism, capitalism has taken nice vices from christian religion (the seven deadly sins) to use and aubse of the weakness of human being to developp in a occidental world where religion (essentially christian world) was and still is in decline.
ok, I will answer here, this is not right topic for happiness and systems :-)
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I wonder where this wave of stupid nationalism, god-homeland-family theorization, religion fundamentalism and old anticommunistic ideological illusion will lead europe..
I agree on your religious fundamentalism statements, but nationalism isn't always a bad thing. State nationalism is bad, but there's nothing wrong with peaceful Catalan, Bask, Scottisch or Flemish (:p) nationalism. And yes, I am anti-communist, but that ain't an illusion. Thinking communism can work is an illusion.
I agree on your religious fundamentalism statements, but nationalism isn't always a bad thing. State nationalism is bad, but there's nothing wrong with peaceful Catalan, Bask, Scottisch or Flemish (:p) nationalism. And yes, I am anti-communist, but that ain't an illusion. Thinking communism can work is an illusion.
and one new topic for economical or state ideologies.
we should stop spamming at this topic.
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we should stop spamming at this topic.
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@Rubinho and others; you apperently have no clue what Religion stands for , let alone, talking about fundamentalism or fundamental religion.
I;ve said it before,if you do not want to realise that most of the morals and rules in your daily life since you were concieved by your mothers, is given by christianity itself....your out.
People tend to tae everything for granted, or even think that they are free from influences...
Christianity paved the streets in europe and the usa! it gave the people moral believe and trust in life!
Denying God is silly, and ofcourse nowhere you can see it so clear as in socialists and communists; they are so "free" that they won't evne allow other to have a religion...the will not want to respect it, they won''t tolerate it.
I;ve said it before,if you do not want to realise that most of the morals and rules in your daily life since you were concieved by your mothers, is given by christianity itself....your out.
People tend to tae everything for granted, or even think that they are free from influences...
Christianity paved the streets in europe and the usa! it gave the people moral believe and trust in life!
Denying God is silly, and ofcourse nowhere you can see it so clear as in socialists and communists; they are so "free" that they won't evne allow other to have a religion...the will not want to respect it, they won''t tolerate it.
@Rubinho and others; you apperently have no clue what Religion stands for , let alone, talking about fundamentalism or fundamental religion.
Dude, I explicitly said religious fundamentalism, not religion. You as religious person should most certainly make that distinction. But apparently, you feel 'hurt' when I reject religious fundamentalism. Says more about you than about me.
Dude, I explicitly said religious fundamentalism, not religion. You as religious person should most certainly make that distinction. But apparently, you feel 'hurt' when I reject religious fundamentalism. Says more about you than about me.
There is so much good things and so much pain made by religions that it is hard to think just on that positive. And there are so much religions that it is so hard talk just about one of them. But for this is better religion topic.
@ el pupe and mitch69
The bible equals happiness is absolutely nonsenses, it's completely open for your own interpretation and what parts you read. Maybe to some it can bring happiness, but that's only because they look at it that way (and skip the parts that are also in it). Others use it to frighten kids with stories about death and eternal hell, to me that's not happiness ...
Beside, mitch69, how can you call the bible your guide to happiness? 1 John 4:8, God is love, but when I read your posts the feeling of love is something I've never seen in your posts. You are always judging people, telling everyone how wrong they are if they don't think like you, left vs right etc etc.
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The bible equals happiness is absolutely nonsenses, it's completely open for your own interpretation and what parts you read. Maybe to some it can bring happiness, but that's only because they look at it that way (and skip the parts that are also in it). Others use it to frighten kids with stories about death and eternal hell, to me that's not happiness ...
Beside, mitch69, how can you call the bible your guide to happiness? 1 John 4:8, God is love, but when I read your posts the feeling of love is something I've never seen in your posts. You are always judging people, telling everyone how wrong they are if they don't think like you, left vs right etc etc.
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