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rules that israel had to impose on the palestinians at the border
you're unbeliavable...
so if I decide that you'are dangeous I'm justified to impose a rule to you to never get up from bed!
Can't you see what's wrong with this?
Simply that every evalutation is mine without contradictory!
Anyway, you waving a flag without knowing the history of that zone (with UK and France guilty for their imperialistic will of million deads and a war still on..)
everywehere there is trouble with muslims being the aggressor..
but.. are you serious????
Iraq, Afghasnistan, Libya..
the moreif you actively support the wrong side and oppose the good side...
WAKE UP, in war there's NEVER a good side, and I'm supporting NO ONE!!!
Don't you give me a flag, not your, not your enemie's one..
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you're unbeliavable...
so if I decide that you'are dangeous I'm justified to impose a rule to you to never get up from bed!
Can't you see what's wrong with this?
Simply that every evalutation is mine without contradictory!
Anyway, you waving a flag without knowing the history of that zone (with UK and France guilty for their imperialistic will of million deads and a war still on..)
everywehere there is trouble with muslims being the aggressor..
but.. are you serious????
Iraq, Afghasnistan, Libya..
the moreif you actively support the wrong side and oppose the good side...
WAKE UP, in war there's NEVER a good side, and I'm supporting NO ONE!!!
Don't you give me a flag, not your, not your enemie's one..
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how unbelievable are you yourself; iran irak afghanistan lybia; all 100% muslim countries and all 100% mmuslim aggression.....you think america went in to irak for fun?
do we lose men and women in afghanistan for sheer joy? Or did the taliban some very very ugly tuff that your eyes cannot even bear to watch!
this little video (youtube) is offcourse provocation..not saying that the action of the soldiers is rightfull....this will happen on any side of any conflict; there is a border or a zone, and there is a conflict nations wide: then you have youngmen being soldiers...not for choce, but hey have to, just as I had to....sure enough tings happen just becaue of that, sometimes out of anger , or just boredom or fun....but always there is this eemy feeling between these groups...
so, i am not claiming that israeli soldier do everything right...if they come to create order in chaos gaza , why do muslims sent children in lines of fire? if the ei rockets bein fired from a building, than israel first sends out leaflets from helicopters; this building will be destroyed....keep out!
What have hamas done ,proven, more than once...they woul sent in mothers and children....telling it is a safe place to be...so they could claim civilians deaths and moral victory... funny isn't it...very trustworthy partners they are hamas or fatah.....having their firs trule : kill all jews and blow up israel!
what side ar eyou on anyway; you seme not to have any clue or real argument, but you try to tell me that my view, the facts and realitey ,is not true?
go join the flottilla....trust the turkish Erdogan,they will protect you...
do we lose men and women in afghanistan for sheer joy? Or did the taliban some very very ugly tuff that your eyes cannot even bear to watch!
this little video (youtube) is offcourse provocation..not saying that the action of the soldiers is rightfull....this will happen on any side of any conflict; there is a border or a zone, and there is a conflict nations wide: then you have youngmen being soldiers...not for choce, but hey have to, just as I had to....sure enough tings happen just becaue of that, sometimes out of anger , or just boredom or fun....but always there is this eemy feeling between these groups...
so, i am not claiming that israeli soldier do everything right...if they come to create order in chaos gaza , why do muslims sent children in lines of fire? if the ei rockets bein fired from a building, than israel first sends out leaflets from helicopters; this building will be destroyed....keep out!
What have hamas done ,proven, more than once...they woul sent in mothers and children....telling it is a safe place to be...so they could claim civilians deaths and moral victory... funny isn't it...very trustworthy partners they are hamas or fatah.....having their firs trule : kill all jews and blow up israel!
what side ar eyou on anyway; you seme not to have any clue or real argument, but you try to tell me that my view, the facts and realitey ,is not true?
go join the flottilla....trust the turkish Erdogan,they will protect you...
@Zwelgje on your long reaction..
so that arbas convistcated palestinia, is all because of jws.why can't you just say the truth; the arabs states anexated it...not israel;
israel ; you speak about israel forces and war ; even at the time of the great attack, there was no suchng as a major israelian army....and for sure no aggressive outwards looking force!
How come you doubt tat; it is all been cleanly written in history books!
yes there were already people moving about; and for year the muslim attacks on jews became heavier...prewar that is, eve rsince 1890 orso....but befor it was laso common knowledge wich partie swere attacking...
yes there were arabs moving out of israel parts; as I said most sold their land for good prices..other just left hoping for better places elsewhere and lots left after being affirmed by arab natons tha tIsrael would be on he map very soon...so they could get much more out of it....these arabs though it would be wise to leave that country that would be attacked by them!
then , after that conflict about a million jews had to flee arab cuntries as far away as morocco and iran...a million, opposed to the highest estimated arab refugees 230.000 !
Yes, those jews found a new home and were welcomed anditnegratedinto israel society...tat rebuilt life......how did all these muslim forces handle the palestinians in need?
Tell me wisy nose Zwelgje; do you have any clue?
and then you make a stement tha tis so megalomane; you claim tat the arabs forced were not after the jews...but were mainly angry abut the british (!!!)
haha ever since , every single arabs leader wether political or religious, have been very clear what is their single purpose in his conflict!!!!!!!! it is on paper in the air every where...but no we have found a point of entry forpeace; Zwelgje knows that all this is not true, they are just playingit hard and just being a bit antisemiic.....but they ar ejus against the brits....
fine....anything to say mister cleverness ?
so that arbas convistcated palestinia, is all because of jws.why can't you just say the truth; the arabs states anexated it...not israel;
israel ; you speak about israel forces and war ; even at the time of the great attack, there was no suchng as a major israelian army....and for sure no aggressive outwards looking force!
How come you doubt tat; it is all been cleanly written in history books!
yes there were already people moving about; and for year the muslim attacks on jews became heavier...prewar that is, eve rsince 1890 orso....but befor it was laso common knowledge wich partie swere attacking...
yes there were arabs moving out of israel parts; as I said most sold their land for good prices..other just left hoping for better places elsewhere and lots left after being affirmed by arab natons tha tIsrael would be on he map very soon...so they could get much more out of it....these arabs though it would be wise to leave that country that would be attacked by them!
then , after that conflict about a million jews had to flee arab cuntries as far away as morocco and iran...a million, opposed to the highest estimated arab refugees 230.000 !
Yes, those jews found a new home and were welcomed anditnegratedinto israel society...tat rebuilt life......how did all these muslim forces handle the palestinians in need?
Tell me wisy nose Zwelgje; do you have any clue?
and then you make a stement tha tis so megalomane; you claim tat the arabs forced were not after the jews...but were mainly angry abut the british (!!!)
haha ever since , every single arabs leader wether political or religious, have been very clear what is their single purpose in his conflict!!!!!!!! it is on paper in the air every where...but no we have found a point of entry forpeace; Zwelgje knows that all this is not true, they are just playingit hard and just being a bit antisemiic.....but they ar ejus against the brits....
fine....anything to say mister cleverness ?
What is it that makes you want to provoke people in every post you write ?
how unbelievable are you yourself; iran irak afghanistan lybia; all 100% muslim countries and all 100% mmuslim aggression.....you think america went in to irak for fun?
OMG! In 2011 there are still someone that thik THIS?!?!?!
go join the flottilla....trust the turkish Erdogan,they will protect you...
AGAIN?
I think you do not want to understand,
I'll repeat:
WAKE UP, in war there's NEVER a good side, and I'm supporting NO ONE!!!
Don't you give me a flag, not your, not your enemie's one..
OMG! In 2011 there are still someone that thik THIS?!?!?!
go join the flottilla....trust the turkish Erdogan,they will protect you...
AGAIN?
I think you do not want to understand,
I'll repeat:
WAKE UP, in war there's NEVER a good side, and I'm supporting NO ONE!!!
Don't you give me a flag, not your, not your enemie's one..
prvoke provoke; I jut ll the truth the facts and history....are you bothered?
Why are yo not bothered with oter people who are clearly provoking me, even in person?
How can reality be provcative....only if your are that prejusticed.
Why are yo not bothered with oter people who are clearly provoking me, even in person?
How can reality be provcative....only if your are that prejusticed.
I am not referring to the content of your post because I dont care about your opinion, but I am talking about namecalling.
el pupe; where ar eyou arguments and facts where you base your opinion on; there is none, isn't it?
Your are non sided, so a clear anrchist, as I said before anarchist are always anti western world and anti capitalism and anti israel, no matter what.
You are clearly wrongly informed, or just being provokative, because in Real Life anrchistare widely seen as provcateurs....not me...being say a rightwing conservative capitalist...
I chose clearly side, pro israel anti muslim; I give you all the clues as why....
you say you have no favorite, but you do think it is your job to attack me, with no arguments...but for the same your mouth is closed shut against palestinnians terrorists muslims.....are you afraid or something...what leads your opinion..be fair man...I am only a normal citizen of western Europe...not a hitler or something simular...
Your are non sided, so a clear anrchist, as I said before anarchist are always anti western world and anti capitalism and anti israel, no matter what.
You are clearly wrongly informed, or just being provokative, because in Real Life anrchistare widely seen as provcateurs....not me...being say a rightwing conservative capitalist...
I chose clearly side, pro israel anti muslim; I give you all the clues as why....
you say you have no favorite, but you do think it is your job to attack me, with no arguments...but for the same your mouth is closed shut against palestinnians terrorists muslims.....are you afraid or something...what leads your opinion..be fair man...I am only a normal citizen of western Europe...not a hitler or something simular...
you are ridicilous, your racist speeches are just awfull. Without muslims and foreigners the world would be perfect, of course...
so that arbas convistcated palestinia, is all because of jws.why can't you just say the truth; the arabs states anexated it...not israel;
This is what I stated: So in reality there never was a free Palestina, thanks to the Jewish forces and the Arab countries.
Remember your own words: you claimed it was a fact that there was a free Palestina after WOII.
I just wanted to show that this is not a fact but I never said it was because of jews. It was because of both the jewish forces and the Arab countries .
israel ; you speak about israel forces and war ; even at the time of the great attack, there was no suchng as a major israelian army....and for sure no aggressive outwards looking force!
Read my words again: I never used the word israel forces or army, I said jewish forces. Allthough there was not a formal army (since there was no official jewish nation yet), they were well organized in the Haganah, which would become the IDF after the war for independence.
After WO II the Haganah closed ranks with the Irgun and the Lehi to fight the British and protect jews from Arab attacks in Palestina. These 3 groups were all well organized and can defenitely be compared to an army at that time, allthough they did lack some of the materials a normal army would have.
How come you doubt tat; it is all been cleanly written in history books!
I doubt that because that is NOT the way it has been written in history books.
yes there were already people moving about; and for year the muslim attacks on jews became heavier. prewar that is, eve rsince 1890 orso
That is true, but in my post I never said this was not the case. I was answering your question whether there were any comments on the first "facts" in your post that I reacted on.
.how did all these muslim forces handle the palestinians in need?
They put a lot of palestinians in refuge camps, and did not really make an effort to address their humantarian needs.
But that has nothing to do with the points I made about the "facts" you wrongly stated in your post I reacted on.
Tell me wisy nose Zwelgje; do you have any clue?
I have more than a clue, I have the facts.
and then you make a stement tha tis so megalomane; you claim tat the arabs forced were not after the jews...but were mainly angry abut the british (!!!)
Where did I say the arab forces were not after the jews?
I said the Arab nations were supporting the Axis in WOII mainly due to wanting to get rid of the British forces and in such way get more, or total, independence.
But I also said the arab leaders were not very found of jews. Maybe I should have been more clear: I'm sure that most or all of them supported the anti semetic policies and actions of the Axis. However this was not the main reason to support the Axis. (But that does not make the anti semetic part "right" or to be neglected)
fine....anything to say mister cleverness ?
Thank you for the compliment, it is nice to know at least someone on this forum sees how clever I am. :)
And I just copy and past my final comment from the last post again, to explain my opinion about the conflict in it's current form.
I think it is very simpel when it comes to Palestine, Israel and the other states around Israel. All of them have been quilty of war crimes and have little respect for International Humanitarian Law. In my opinion it is senseless to discuss who is on the right side or who is on the wrong side. They all have been on the wrong side.
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This is what I stated: So in reality there never was a free Palestina, thanks to the Jewish forces and the Arab countries.
Remember your own words: you claimed it was a fact that there was a free Palestina after WOII.
I just wanted to show that this is not a fact but I never said it was because of jews. It was because of both the jewish forces and the Arab countries .
israel ; you speak about israel forces and war ; even at the time of the great attack, there was no suchng as a major israelian army....and for sure no aggressive outwards looking force!
Read my words again: I never used the word israel forces or army, I said jewish forces. Allthough there was not a formal army (since there was no official jewish nation yet), they were well organized in the Haganah, which would become the IDF after the war for independence.
After WO II the Haganah closed ranks with the Irgun and the Lehi to fight the British and protect jews from Arab attacks in Palestina. These 3 groups were all well organized and can defenitely be compared to an army at that time, allthough they did lack some of the materials a normal army would have.
How come you doubt tat; it is all been cleanly written in history books!
I doubt that because that is NOT the way it has been written in history books.
yes there were already people moving about; and for year the muslim attacks on jews became heavier. prewar that is, eve rsince 1890 orso
That is true, but in my post I never said this was not the case. I was answering your question whether there were any comments on the first "facts" in your post that I reacted on.
.how did all these muslim forces handle the palestinians in need?
They put a lot of palestinians in refuge camps, and did not really make an effort to address their humantarian needs.
But that has nothing to do with the points I made about the "facts" you wrongly stated in your post I reacted on.
Tell me wisy nose Zwelgje; do you have any clue?
I have more than a clue, I have the facts.
and then you make a stement tha tis so megalomane; you claim tat the arabs forced were not after the jews...but were mainly angry abut the british (!!!)
Where did I say the arab forces were not after the jews?
I said the Arab nations were supporting the Axis in WOII mainly due to wanting to get rid of the British forces and in such way get more, or total, independence.
But I also said the arab leaders were not very found of jews. Maybe I should have been more clear: I'm sure that most or all of them supported the anti semetic policies and actions of the Axis. However this was not the main reason to support the Axis. (But that does not make the anti semetic part "right" or to be neglected)
fine....anything to say mister cleverness ?
Thank you for the compliment, it is nice to know at least someone on this forum sees how clever I am. :)
And I just copy and past my final comment from the last post again, to explain my opinion about the conflict in it's current form.
I think it is very simpel when it comes to Palestine, Israel and the other states around Israel. All of them have been quilty of war crimes and have little respect for International Humanitarian Law. In my opinion it is senseless to discuss who is on the right side or who is on the wrong side. They all have been on the wrong side.
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Your are non sided, so a clear anrchist, as I said before anarchist are always anti western world and anti capitalism and anti israel, no matter what.
again?
WAKE UP, in war there's NEVER a good side, and I'm supporting NO ONE!!!
Don't you give me a flag, not your, not your enemie's one..
can you live and think by yourself, without put each new idea into a box called good or bad?
Can you live without knowing if I'm a friend or an enemy? maybe I'm none of the 2..
I chose clearly side, pro israel anti muslim
that's the problem YOU MUST chose a side, unless you can't have an idea!
I can only confess I can't talk like that, I do not need any box for my ideas, I don't see friend and enemies on them.
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again?
WAKE UP, in war there's NEVER a good side, and I'm supporting NO ONE!!!
Don't you give me a flag, not your, not your enemie's one..
can you live and think by yourself, without put each new idea into a box called good or bad?
Can you live without knowing if I'm a friend or an enemy? maybe I'm none of the 2..
I chose clearly side, pro israel anti muslim
that's the problem YOU MUST chose a side, unless you can't have an idea!
I can only confess I can't talk like that, I do not need any box for my ideas, I don't see friend and enemies on them.
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I think it is very simpel when it comes to Palestine, Israel and the other states around Israel. All of them have been quilty of war crimes and have little respect for International Humanitarian Law. In my opinion it is senseless to discuss who is on the right side or who is on the wrong side. They all have been on the wrong side.
I agree
I agree
here is a joke, there was a russian a croatian and an italian arguing about the war
in the middle east and world war 2, the russian says everybody is facist, the croatian
says some are facist and the italian says no one is racist, what does this tell you?, well...
if you know they are less than 40 you know one thing for sure, the italian learn their lesson,
the croatian are not sure and the russian are delusional...
jk guys, i dont think it is a racial thing now it is long forgotten why they are killing each other
as if humans needed a reason to kill each other... a little booze and you get a killer, this is not deep or
crazy is quite natural, humans have hardcoded into their brain to be like this.
in the middle east and world war 2, the russian says everybody is facist, the croatian
says some are facist and the italian says no one is racist, what does this tell you?, well...
if you know they are less than 40 you know one thing for sure, the italian learn their lesson,
the croatian are not sure and the russian are delusional...
jk guys, i dont think it is a racial thing now it is long forgotten why they are killing each other
as if humans needed a reason to kill each other... a little booze and you get a killer, this is not deep or
crazy is quite natural, humans have hardcoded into their brain to be like this.
BTW you all forgot to say that USA sells guns to both, but the politically correct USA backs up Israel
We really need WW3, the worst one cos people did learn nothing from previous two.
Just one question, how much nuclear bombs we need to solve world problems?
Just one question, how much nuclear bombs we need to solve world problems?
