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Not at all. Please, enlighten me and show me where I did that.
"If you kill my body u cant kill my soul which live in every Libyan.The long life for the martyr and the bad life for all who betray there country."
And not only Libyan. As he is supported by the most African countries.
And not only Libyan. As he is supported by the most African countries.
Oh i am arrogant. So go find it yourself. :-P
Libya in 2010: 82% literacy, $9.62p/h median wage, GDP per capita $14,000, highest education index and human development index in Africa.
Voice from Libya:
Dead men tell no tales, about how the West infiltrated his country with intelligence agents, who trained, equipped and aided the rebels to perform their "spontaneous" rebellion against the government, and basically just stole Libya's independence. It will now become entirely co-opted by the US/EU/Israel, its oil controlled by Western oil giants, its gold confiscated from its people, and its cash converted from an equity-based, government issued currency into fiat-based, international banker controlled endless debt. Ain't freedom grand?
Voice from Libya:
Dead men tell no tales, about how the West infiltrated his country with intelligence agents, who trained, equipped and aided the rebels to perform their "spontaneous" rebellion against the government, and basically just stole Libya's independence. It will now become entirely co-opted by the US/EU/Israel, its oil controlled by Western oil giants, its gold confiscated from its people, and its cash converted from an equity-based, government issued currency into fiat-based, international banker controlled endless debt. Ain't freedom grand?
I have clearly said where you were arrogant (you said that as long as I wouldn't remember your words I'd be a kid). You said I was arrogant. That's your right, but if you want to be taken seriously, you'll have to show me where I was arrogant here.
Its simple. Because poeple in Lybia realy liked him. They had better social conditions like us. He would surely win.
You dont know anything about Lybia. You just believe everything what is told in TV. So manipulative ;-).
Do you have a source for this?
It is impossible to know how many people are for/against him because Libya was (and still is) not a country where you can express your opinion freely.
You dont know anything about Lybia. You just believe everything what is told in TV. So manipulative ;-).
Do you have a source for this?
It is impossible to know how many people are for/against him because Libya was (and still is) not a country where you can express your opinion freely.
it is worldwide known that All african nations have litteraly expressed that they did not longer "support" Khadafi any longer...as is clear that most Lybians do not like him very much.
all numbers that were made up by the khadafi administration we can easily set aside, unless you like to support terrorism and faul play. any Lybian who was screaming for khadafi or fi. Iraki who went into the streets for Sadam, was doing that to protect himself or family or goods...not out of ideology or sympathy.
Strangely this seems hard to cope with by some parts of the political european spectrum.
all numbers that were made up by the khadafi administration we can easily set aside, unless you like to support terrorism and faul play. any Lybian who was screaming for khadafi or fi. Iraki who went into the streets for Sadam, was doing that to protect himself or family or goods...not out of ideology or sympathy.
Strangely this seems hard to cope with by some parts of the political european spectrum.
all numbers that were made up by the khadafi administration we can easily set aside, unless you like to support terrorism and faul play. any Lybian who was screaming for khadafi or fi. Iraki who went into the streets for Sadam, was doing that to protect himself or family or goods...not out of ideology or sympathy.
I agree.
Just as now there will be Lybians screaming they never liked Ghadaffi, also to protect their family and goods from all the rebels running around with guns.
That is why I think nobody really knows actual % of populations that are for or against Ghadaffi.
But we do know he was a dictator who had very little respect for human rights.......
I agree.
Just as now there will be Lybians screaming they never liked Ghadaffi, also to protect their family and goods from all the rebels running around with guns.
That is why I think nobody really knows actual % of populations that are for or against Ghadaffi.
But we do know he was a dictator who had very little respect for human rights.......
So people in Iraq loved Hussein and hate US and now after liberation they like US and hate Hussein ?
Now there is freedom, so what people do there is now true, reality and I see just people in Iraq demonstrating hate against US, now much bigger :-)
so how can you explain this :-) ?
Now there is freedom, so what people do there is now true, reality and I see just people in Iraq demonstrating hate against US, now much bigger :-)
so how can you explain this :-) ?
I was not talking about Iraq but about Lybia. So why do you want me to explain something about Iraq?
(I can explain why the majority of the people in Iraq did not like Saddam, but also why they do not like the US, but that is not the point here)
(I can explain why the majority of the people in Iraq did not like Saddam, but also why they do not like the US, but that is not the point here)
cos you told this:
It is impossible to know how many people are for/against him because Libya was (and still is) not a country where you can express your opinion freely.
It is impossible to know how many people are for/against him because Libya was (and still is) not a country where you can express your opinion freely.
I don't see the link ... your point doesn't make sense.
Hating Hussein has nothing to do with loving the US. Also, now the people in Iraq can demonstrate freely, if they did the same when Hussein was in power they would have been arrested, tortured and killed, and now they are not as they have the right to demonstrate (as long as it is demonstrating and not shooting at the soldiers ofcourse).
But Iraq is a completely different situation as Libya. You can't say the Libyans now have freedom. The Libyans are free from Khadaffi's terror, that's all, but it is by no means clear yet what will happen in the near future.
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Hating Hussein has nothing to do with loving the US. Also, now the people in Iraq can demonstrate freely, if they did the same when Hussein was in power they would have been arrested, tortured and killed, and now they are not as they have the right to demonstrate (as long as it is demonstrating and not shooting at the soldiers ofcourse).
But Iraq is a completely different situation as Libya. You can't say the Libyans now have freedom. The Libyans are free from Khadaffi's terror, that's all, but it is by no means clear yet what will happen in the near future.
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It is impossible to know how many people are for/against him because Libya was (and still is) not a country where you can express your opinion freely.
Who want to say that people loving Hussein in Iraq during his regtime was false have true, that "love" was forced to them (just for media). But now they are free, they have freedom so logically they should love US for liberation, but reality is different. So we can not say, that people dont like US and this hate is forced. This is just sad reality and western world have now no excuse for that.
It is same in Lybia.
Zwelgje said that people there could not express their opinion freely. But now, they can express their opinions and they hate US/France..western aggression, they realize that they new army bosses (btw same kind of people as Quaddafi was and same way how they got the power in Lybia) sold their country and prosperity for being oil puppet and that good times go away for ever there. And if they think this now it should be their free opinion (read some African forums, not western forums :-) ), they are not forced to have such an opinion. It was and now it is their free opinion.
Who want to say that people loving Hussein in Iraq during his regtime was false have true, that "love" was forced to them (just for media). But now they are free, they have freedom so logically they should love US for liberation, but reality is different. So we can not say, that people dont like US and this hate is forced. This is just sad reality and western world have now no excuse for that.
It is same in Lybia.
Zwelgje said that people there could not express their opinion freely. But now, they can express their opinions and they hate US/France..western aggression, they realize that they new army bosses (btw same kind of people as Quaddafi was and same way how they got the power in Lybia) sold their country and prosperity for being oil puppet and that good times go away for ever there. And if they think this now it should be their free opinion (read some African forums, not western forums :-) ), they are not forced to have such an opinion. It was and now it is their free opinion.
Kosovo is not a province of Serbia anymore. Face it.
Many still don't understand ;)
U deliberately miss the point of news. Like I sad two Serbian man were killed, and many wounded by Albanians in last three weeks on Kosovo province.
Now, Kosovo province is recogniseed by most europian western countries but U must not ignore that Russia, China,Brasil,India (the most populous states) with most smaller world states does not
recogniseed Kosovo province as independ.
In the end Kosovo is not member of UN. So I am sorry...KOSOVO IS SERBIA.
Many still don't understand ;)
U deliberately miss the point of news. Like I sad two Serbian man were killed, and many wounded by Albanians in last three weeks on Kosovo province.
Now, Kosovo province is recogniseed by most europian western countries but U must not ignore that Russia, China,Brasil,India (the most populous states) with most smaller world states does not
recogniseed Kosovo province as independ.
In the end Kosovo is not member of UN. So I am sorry...KOSOVO IS SERBIA.