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It only shows how illiterate you are . And I know why are you writting this about Kosovo,its because you want the same thing to happen in Belgium with you region Flanders ,thats why you support Kosovo's independance ,simple as that .

And if you want real truth try and watch Czech movie about Kosovo .

And you still havnt explaind to me why do you support independance of Kosovo ? Why do you support it ?

It changes nothing, but it would have been very unpleasant to you, if some one had called you belfian and said 'well, there is no big difference and it does not change the fact that France rules'.

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I looked it up :) Song starts with something like 'Serbian trumpets sounds from Kosovo' and ends with something like 'All are from Serbian mothers' ...

Some just don't get it (or don't want to). But they will know when Serbia wants to join the EU.

It only shows how illiterate you are . And I know why are you writting this about Kosovo,its because you want the same thing to happen in Belgium with you region Flanders ,thats why you support Kosovo's independance ,simple as that .

Every nation has its right on self-determination, yes.

And if you want real truth try and watch Czech movie about Kosovo .

Yeah, I'm not going to do that. Certainly not if I don't have the title.

And you still havnt explaind to me why do you support independance of Kosovo ? Why do you support it ?

See above.

It changes nothing, but it would have been very unpleasant to you, if some one had called you belfian and said 'well, there is no big difference and it does not change the fact that France rules'.

I wouldn't react like that. I'd explain why. He just said he didn't know the Kosovan nation. From that reaction I cannot know it's Kosovar. France rules by the way, beautiful country.

The EU is a good idea, but the way it works now, it's a bad project. It has to change seriously. Due to the differences between Western and Eastern Europe, I was against the acceptance of the Eastern European countries in 2004 and 2007. Why not create different European Unions that work together? I'd like a Western European Union with a lot of integration with countries like Ireland, UK, Benelux, Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria and Scandinavia. (I see that the Eastern European countries (and in fact, the UK too, they are always being difficult) don't want to give up so much sovereignty, so they should form their own union.)

And this would help EU how? would it remove French or Spanish farmers and mass financial spending on them? Would it made european countries spend money more wisely? Would it help in German economical expansion and EE modernisation? Would it make finally stop insane limitations and and bureaucracy? Would it stop countries debts and fake accounting of southerners? Would it stop absurd regulations of economy and constant ignorance of people? I dont think so, I would even say that in many things it would make current problems much worse.

Even in federatization issue it wouldnt make help. These pesky eastern europeans havent refused EU, Swiss or Norwegians were. These pesky eastern europeans havent refused Euro, Swedish, Danish and British were. These pesky eastern europeans havent refused European constitution, Irish, Dutch or French were. Problem for federationalization arent new, easily corrupted, countries but remaining democracy of old ones. But EU works on it.

That's why I said 'I'd like'. I know it's not realistic at all. We need to get EU democratic and working. None of those two objectives are fulfilled right now.

I especially look to the British Isles, Benelux, France, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Scandinavia, Canada and the States. Everyone can have his own opinion, but I only care for the opinion of the countries mentioned above

U sad it.

Okay, let's take Silesia and Prussia, what about them? They should be joint with Germany again?

Silesia is south-west region of Poland and doesnt deserve to be independent.Just like Kosovo.But U have to ask for it some Polish or Czech people on forum.
Prussia was old German kingdom...(WIKI)After 1871, Prussia was increasingly merged into Germany, losing its distinctive identity. It was effectively abolished in 1932, and officially abolished in 1947. Nothing common with Kosovo.
Your comparation are bad. U must know what is to be joining to some other country, and what is independency.

As all the citizens of your Serbian state (including Kosovo) are called Serbs,

No. all the citizens of my Serbian state (including Kosovo) are called Serbians. Serbs are bigest ethnic gruop in Serbia.

one could say the Kosovans are a subnationality within the Serbian state. They are from my point of view a nationality and an ethnicity, from your point of view only an ethnicity. Ethnicity is for me more important than nationality.


Ill explain to you shortly. Kosovar(n)s,whatever, are just like,lets say Champagne people who live in these geographic region.
There is no kosovars ethnicity or nationality because there live Serbians, Albanians, Jews, Gipsies, Egiptians, Macedonians, Greeks...They all are call themselfs Kosovar(n)s,whatever.
To be ethic group it must be common lenguage, religion, culture...

I think u dont have knowlege of basic terms, political or geographic.

Look, when I discuss for instance the Balkan War of the '90, I always defend the Serbs as I think they did do things wrong (just like the Croatians, Bosniaks, ...) but our Western media was very anti-Serbian.

Please dont be angry with me, but dont defend us anymore... Serbs are fucking to sickly proud, that one day there will not be any Serbs on planet Earth. But this is our thing.

However, my geographic knowledge of the world and particularly Europe is very good. I know the history of your region. And Kosovo is a part of your region, but not of your country. [/i]

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If you ignore the Ottomans, and after that, the Serbian and Kosovan area was freed by Austrians and Albanians. The Ottomans took it back, but lost during the ages their power over the Balkan area. The Balkans were for a very long time a very unstable area. So saying Kosovo is Serbians since 11-12th century is a lie. Not more than that. The Serbs conquered Kosovo in 1912. You cannot deny that.

Oh, no no man, u r hurting me. Right now U convince me that u dont know anything about history, especially Serbian. Please dont do it anymore because Ill accept it as insult.

Silesia wasnt never independent but Silesians are somewhat considered as ethnic group, while majority just consider themselves as just Germans, Poles or Czechs. In history was Silesia allways divided between Bohemia, Poland and Germany. I dont know any nationalist movement in The Czech Republic, I dont know about situation in Poland or Germany.

Much more similiar case to Kosovo would be Transnistria or South Ossetia.

Then get ready to be insulted.

Silesia is south-west region of Poland and doesnt deserve to be independent.Just like Kosovo.But U have to ask for it some Polish or Czech people on forum.

Silesia and East-Prussia were historic German regions, that got de-germanized after WW II. Just like you say Kosovo is being de-Serbianized (I hope you understand what I mean).

No. all the citizens of my Serbian state (including Kosovo) are called Serbians. Serbs are bigest ethnic gruop in Serbia.

Sorry, the Dutch equivalent of Serbians (Serviërs) and Serbs (Serven) are used as synonyms. I'll try to use Serb and Serbian correctly in the future. So Serbs are the biggest ethnicity in Serbia, and Albanian Kosovars are the biggest ethnicity in Kosovo ...

Ill explain to you shortly. Kosovar(n)s,whatever, are just like,lets say Champagne people who live in these geographic region.
There is no kosovars ethnicity or nationality because there live Serbians, Albanians, Jews, Gipsies, Egiptians, Macedonians, Greeks...They all are call themselfs Kosovar(n)s,whatever.
To be ethic group it must be common lenguage, religion, culture...

When I said Kosovars, I meant Albanian Kosovars. So Albanians are an ethnicity, just like Serbs. The Albanians have been the majority in Kosovo for quite a long time (century). Why not giving them self-determination? Why don't you want to let groups of people choose their country? Serbs choose their state, Croatians did, Albanians chose it. Why not let the all Kosovars determine which state they prefer, Serbia or Kosovo? Seems like legitimate and democratic.

I think u dont have knowlege of basic terms, political or geographic.

I sure do.

Please dont be angry with me, but dont defend us anymore... Serbs are fucking to sickly proud, that one day there will not be any Serbs on planet Earth. But this is our thing.

Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying here.

You can jump high or low, it won't change a thing! ;)

The independence of Kosovo as a country (and no, not a province):
Kosovo independence move not illegal, says UN court

It means nothing. Judges dont discussedabout does Kosovo is country or province. Conclusion of judges in the end of this trial was:‚‚ Ruling of this court was restricted to the secession declaration itself and did not address the wider issue of Kosovo independence.‚‚

I dont talk about does it illiegal or not. Question is does Kosovo is free and sovereign state, recognized by most states of the world and associate in United Nations?

Answer is NO.

Switzerland was not a member of UN until 2002. So membership of UN is really not necessary.

Then get ready to be insulted.

Yours history knowlege is to shortage that insult. Especially Serbian :)

Silesia and East-Prussia were historic German regions, that got de-germanized after WW II. Just like you say Kosovo is being de-Serbianized (I hope you understand what I mean).

I dont said anything like it, and I dont understand what is ‚‚de-germanized‚‚

Sorry, the Dutch equivalent of Serbians (Serviërs) and Serbs (Serven) are used as synonyms. I'll try to use Serb and Serbian correctly in the future. So Serbs are the biggest ethnicity in Serbia, and Albanian Kosovars are the biggest ethnicity in Kosovo ...

Yes, if u consider Kosovo especially from the rest of Serbia. So?

When I said Kosovars, I meant Albanian Kosovars. So Albanians are an ethnicity, just like Serbs. The Albanians have been the majority in Kosovo for quite a long time (century). Why not giving them self-determination? Why don't you want to let groups of people choose their country? Serbs choose their state, Croatians did, Albanians chose it. Why not let the all Kosovars determine which state they prefer, Serbia or Kosovo? Seems like legitimate and democratic.

No,this is not what u choose like clodes or food. just pick up and its yours. All nations in Europe are made its own states in 19 and 20 century throw bloody wars, just like Serbia or Belgium did.
But now, if we let every group of people to choose their country, expecialy in Europian democratic societies, then EU will not exist.
Ethic Albanians from Kosovo allready have chances to choose between Serbia or theirs Albania.That is much better position from other euro-ethnic groups.
But we will never allow to make second albanian state in Europe on Serbian teritory.

Please dont be angry with me, but dont defend us anymore... Serbs are fucking to sickly proud, that one day there will not be any Serbs on planet Earth. But this is our thing.

Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying here.

Forget it. Its some ironic shit. Dont bother yourself, u will never understand exept my people.

Switzerland was not a member of UN until 2002. So membership of UN is really not necessary.
U want to say that Kosovo is like Switzerland. Please.

I dont said anything like it, and I dont understand what is ‚‚de-germanized‚‚

De-germanization: a majority of Germans moved, and new people arrived, so the German majority disappeared. Some Serbian dude said that the Albanians came to Kosovo, and that is the reason they got a majority there. So that is comparable with how the Poles got a majority in Silesia and Prussia.

Yes, if u consider Kosovo especially from the rest of Serbia. So?

So, if Serbs have their Serbian state because they are a majority, then why shouldn't the Albanian Kosovars have their Kosovar state as they are a majority in Kosovo?

No,this is not what u choose like clodes or food. just pick up and its yours. All nations in Europe are made its own states in 19 and 20 century throw bloody wars, just like Serbia or Belgium did. But now, if we let every group of people to choose their country, expecialy in Europian democratic societies, then EU will not exist.

How states were created in the past, is irrelevant to this case. (First of all, unfortunately, there are not a lot of European democratic states, I can only think of one, Switzerland.) The existence of EU may not put restrictions on the self-determination of European peoples. Every people has the right of its own state. And the citizens of each region in Europe have the right to chose which state they belong. Kosovo is a region in Europe (just as Vojvodina, Montenegro, Flanders, Scotland, Catalonia, ...) and therefore can chose if it wants to be part of Serbia, Albania or if it wants to be independent.

Ethic Albanians from Kosovo allready have chances to choose between Serbia or theirs Albania.That is much better position from other euro-ethnic groups.

So you say that if the Albanians (who are a vast majority in Kosovo) want to live independent from Serbia, they have to move to Albania? That is anti-democratic, and I will never accept that.

By the way, how is your opinion about Bosnia-Herzegovina? You are against the Republic Srpska? As they are Serbs, they already have their Serbian state. (This is just me going further into your argumentation.)

But we will never allow to make second albanian state in Europe on Serbian teritory.

It's not Serbian territory. It's Kosovar territory.

U want to say that Kosovo is like Switzerland. Please.

No I don't, please read what I write. You said membership of UN was necessary to be an independent state. I said this was not true, and gave an example (the example being Switzerland before 2002).