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but we are talking about million of innocent people which will be killing now every day, cos western EU made anarchy there. Before aggression there were peace...
...it is easy watch in TV, looking on how people are dying and talking about democracy, but western EU did not bring there democracy, there is new system called anarchy...
...it is easy watch in TV, looking on how people are dying and talking about democracy, but western EU did not bring there democracy, there is new system called anarchy...
looking how democracy works in UE I think it can't be a real surprise.
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i read good idea in our forum:
Democrazy is: You can to tell everithing, but you will do, what they tell you.
Democrazy is: You can to tell everithing, but you will do, what they tell you.
What do you suggest? We let all the people in the world that are living under a dictatorship their lives depend on the mood of the dictator? Everyone for themselves. Every country's an island. F*** the rest of the world, Slovakia is all that matters. This is what you want?
So imagine this: IF Hitler just exterminated the Jews in Germany, and didn't attack Poland, Czechoslovakia, ... You would not intervene? 'Cause there would be 'peace' in Germany, just like there was 'peace' in Libya under Gaddafi rule.
So imagine this: IF Hitler just exterminated the Jews in Germany, and didn't attack Poland, Czechoslovakia, ... You would not intervene? 'Cause there would be 'peace' in Germany, just like there was 'peace' in Libya under Gaddafi rule.
in this case Hitler = some western states and their leaders....
You should rather speak about that many people which were killed and about much more people which will be killed now.
I know... in TV it looks cool but that dead body on the floor in TV are in Libya real, do you realize this ? This is not game or tv-show.
And yes, if rest of the world listen to us, now there will be peace, maybe not good regtime for western contracts, but peace and good life (in africa conditions I can say very good life, luxury life)
You should rather speak about that many people which were killed and about much more people which will be killed now.
I know... in TV it looks cool but that dead body on the floor in TV are in Libya real, do you realize this ? This is not game or tv-show.
And yes, if rest of the world listen to us, now there will be peace, maybe not good regtime for western contracts, but peace and good life (in africa conditions I can say very good life, luxury life)
So what do you suggest that should have been done in Libya when the army was send to "deal" with people who opposed the regime?
(I'm not saying I agree or disagree with what happened, but I'm curious to now what your solution was...)
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(I'm not saying I agree or disagree with what happened, but I'm curious to now what your solution was...)
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interesting.... how you are able to connect USSR with Libya and western aggression :-)
Very easy, the dictatorial suppressor with power is gone (USSR, Gaddafi, or any other example of countries that end up in war after the fall of the dictatorial suppressor) and a new struggle/war over who will be in power begins. And because a war in the Balkan started wasn't in any way a valid reason to call the USSR a great and friendly dictatorial suppressor because in that time there was peace. So saying Gaddafi was the great and friendly dictatorial suppressor is just ridicules.
And saying 'western aggression' is just hilarious. The 'west' (don't forget, the Arab Liga also turned agaist Gaddafi) helped the freedom-fighters, claiming something else is just really dumb. But this is in some peoples head in this topic and can't get out of it so I'm not going to say anything more about it as this second paragraph. It's not worth it ... believing that nonsense is just utterly stupid and ignorant!
Very easy, the dictatorial suppressor with power is gone (USSR, Gaddafi, or any other example of countries that end up in war after the fall of the dictatorial suppressor) and a new struggle/war over who will be in power begins. And because a war in the Balkan started wasn't in any way a valid reason to call the USSR a great and friendly dictatorial suppressor because in that time there was peace. So saying Gaddafi was the great and friendly dictatorial suppressor is just ridicules.
And saying 'western aggression' is just hilarious. The 'west' (don't forget, the Arab Liga also turned agaist Gaddafi) helped the freedom-fighters, claiming something else is just really dumb. But this is in some peoples head in this topic and can't get out of it so I'm not going to say anything more about it as this second paragraph. It's not worth it ... believing that nonsense is just utterly stupid and ignorant!
my suggestion is that part of western EU and usa should leave that country alone and not destroy it and attack it just because Quaddafi stopped buying their army products.
generally, I hate aggression, war and so.
And that hiding behind democracy or cruel condition are just funny.
under Quaddafi there was cruel life, with no freedom :-DDD but peace and state prosperity , now there is war, dead people, no future and no economy and you will call it liberation :-DDD
Btw, I saw interesting video where were green flags on houses.... somebody forced to have it, right :-) ?
generally, I hate aggression, war and so.
And that hiding behind democracy or cruel condition are just funny.
under Quaddafi there was cruel life, with no freedom :-DDD but peace and state prosperity , now there is war, dead people, no future and no economy and you will call it liberation :-DDD
Btw, I saw interesting video where were green flags on houses.... somebody forced to have it, right :-) ?
During war you all thought that you are helping Libya and after it there can be establish peace and democracy.
Now you would rather dont look on situation in Libya because it is totally out of plan....
I am always speaking about that thousands of dead innocent people and your are always talking about your intention for democracy and so... do you see difference. You dont know what death is, just from TV....
Now you would rather dont look on situation in Libya because it is totally out of plan....
I am always speaking about that thousands of dead innocent people and your are always talking about your intention for democracy and so... do you see difference. You dont know what death is, just from TV....
If somebody take gun, rifle, AK 47, missile to the revolution is not civilian but soldier. TV show killing people, but he do not show, that this people shoot to police, soldiers. Almost all country in Afrika have revolt and Nato do not there. Why???? They do not need freedom? There is not dictatorship and too much dead people? Syria??? Where is Nato?Syria is too weak country and do not profitable only spend money.
What will you do, if some fanatics take gun in yours country and shot to police?
What will you do, if some fanatics take gun in yours country and shot to police?
No, I'm talking about the fall of a dictatorial suppressor.
And 'innocent people' is an interesting claim. What do you mean by this ... what innocent people? The ones that choose to fight for either Gaddafi or the freedom fighters with the risk to die (and thet know this)? The soldiers and mercenaries? Gaddafi supporters and his clan who formed human shields? Who are those 'innocent people' you are talking about? And yes, in war people die, also innocent people and that's really sad, but also a fact of war and serious struggles. How many innocent people died during WOII, Balkan war, African Wars, struggles in Spain, Ireland, South America etc?
And it's great you don't want innocent people to die in war. When I buy stuff I always want it to be fair-trade and made without any child labour. But what we want and what is reality is often something completely different!
And you ignore my post completely about the comparison USSR and Gaddafi I made. Because now it did made sense to you?
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And 'innocent people' is an interesting claim. What do you mean by this ... what innocent people? The ones that choose to fight for either Gaddafi or the freedom fighters with the risk to die (and thet know this)? The soldiers and mercenaries? Gaddafi supporters and his clan who formed human shields? Who are those 'innocent people' you are talking about? And yes, in war people die, also innocent people and that's really sad, but also a fact of war and serious struggles. How many innocent people died during WOII, Balkan war, African Wars, struggles in Spain, Ireland, South America etc?
And it's great you don't want innocent people to die in war. When I buy stuff I always want it to be fair-trade and made without any child labour. But what we want and what is reality is often something completely different!
And you ignore my post completely about the comparison USSR and Gaddafi I made. Because now it did made sense to you?
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And you ignore my post completely about the comparison USSR and Gaddafi I made.
sorry, just fast reading, I will answer later on this...
and to innocent people... in Libya are also al quaeda fighters and they win against Qaddafi too.... but wait.. arent they terrorists ???? Under word innocent people I mean not only regular Libya army, there are a lot of dead people, simple people who died under air attacks, or just were on bad place in bad day or now just people which dont have work, food and so if they want stay alive they must take gun too and try to survive in country full of small wars. And this is not result of quaddafi, this is result of anarchy established by some western states there.
sorry, just fast reading, I will answer later on this...
and to innocent people... in Libya are also al quaeda fighters and they win against Qaddafi too.... but wait.. arent they terrorists ???? Under word innocent people I mean not only regular Libya army, there are a lot of dead people, simple people who died under air attacks, or just were on bad place in bad day or now just people which dont have work, food and so if they want stay alive they must take gun too and try to survive in country full of small wars. And this is not result of quaddafi, this is result of anarchy established by some western states there.
Very easy, the dictatorial suppressor with power is gone (USSR, Gaddafi, or any other example of countries that end up in war after the fall of the dictatorial suppressor) and a new struggle/war over who will be in power begins. And because a war in the Balkan started wasn't in any way a valid reason to call the USSR a great and friendly dictatorial suppressor because in that time there was peace. So saying Gaddafi was the great and friendly dictatorial suppressor is just ridicules.
I dont understand this.... Gaddafi was not good person, it was simple dictator who maybe steal Libyia for own luxury life but also help Libya. Libya is in Africa great country. This region need dictator same as Iraq.
And stop say that this has really something with freedom or so.... all world see that this war had just oil and economic contracts reasons.
I dont understand this.... Gaddafi was not good person, it was simple dictator who maybe steal Libyia for own luxury life but also help Libya. Libya is in Africa great country. This region need dictator same as Iraq.
And stop say that this has really something with freedom or so.... all world see that this war had just oil and economic contracts reasons.
Ah alright, you just take a moment in time (a few month ago) and start judging everything only from that moment and just forget all history and the reason why, like why this war started in the first place and why Europe, US and Arab Liga helped the freedom-fighters. Well, that's an easy brainless way to look at situations ....
And terrorists are everywhere, also in Europe. And they have all kind of religions, color, ideologies etc etc. And the problem is, in case of Al Qaida, they are already organized so when there is a power-vacuum they will try to get that power. But this has absolutely nothing to do with Gaddafi, but everything with the current situation in the world. No 1 can look in the future, everything has to be delth with when necessary but no 1 can predict anything so what is coming is all new for everyone. Besides, shouldn't the Allies stopped Hitler because after that the USSR took the whole of eastern Europe or did no 1 know what was coming so Hitler first, and all other was unknown?
And terrorists are everywhere, also in Europe. And they have all kind of religions, color, ideologies etc etc. And the problem is, in case of Al Qaida, they are already organized so when there is a power-vacuum they will try to get that power. But this has absolutely nothing to do with Gaddafi, but everything with the current situation in the world. No 1 can look in the future, everything has to be delth with when necessary but no 1 can predict anything so what is coming is all new for everyone. Besides, shouldn't the Allies stopped Hitler because after that the USSR took the whole of eastern Europe or did no 1 know what was coming so Hitler first, and all other was unknown?