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This world and this new century is completely amoral :)
I wouldn't call it intellectual though.
Well it looks like that's how they deal with pickpocketing out there. In some places you go to court, in some they cut off your hand, in some you get punished on the street.
Also, the 'racism' part is laughable, the boy is not European-white, he is Asian.
Not trying to justify what they've done, it's outrageous, but still...you steal - you get punished.
Also, the 'racism' part is laughable, the boy is not European-white, he is Asian.
Not trying to justify what they've done, it's outrageous, but still...you steal - you get punished.
As I've said, I'm not saying that it's normal or good - but from European viewpoint.
It seems like it's normal in Asia. Quite possible that young pickpocketers are a big problem out there and, well, how can you deal with such children in other way? You can't go to court, but if you punish him then he will remember about it next time he thinks about stealing a wallet...
It seems like it's normal in Asia. Quite possible that young pickpocketers are a big problem out there and, well, how can you deal with such children in other way? You can't go to court, but if you punish him then he will remember about it next time he thinks about stealing a wallet...
It doesn't matter it's in Asia. It is completely wrong. Some values are not local.
Indeed. And I don't know what he did, can't understand a word of it, and I don't believe blindly the comments on videos are even true.
Besides, if he was stealing, we still don't know why he did that. Maybe he's raised that way and doesn't know better and then his parents should be blamed and punished. Or maybe his family has no money at all and this is the only way to survive. But what ever the reason is and what ever he did, beating up a kid like, with so many people, that is just completely and totally wrong. And this won't make him a better kid, probably even worse. They aren't 'helping' the kid to become a better person this way, they only give him a trauma.
Besides, if he was stealing, we still don't know why he did that. Maybe he's raised that way and doesn't know better and then his parents should be blamed and punished. Or maybe his family has no money at all and this is the only way to survive. But what ever the reason is and what ever he did, beating up a kid like, with so many people, that is just completely and totally wrong. And this won't make him a better kid, probably even worse. They aren't 'helping' the kid to become a better person this way, they only give him a trauma.
As you can see on the vid some values are local. It's not one guy tormenting the kid, it's 'everyone in the street'.
Please don't say that some values are the same everywhere, think about chopping off hands for stealing or stoning women for unfaithfulness.
Please don't say that some values are the same everywhere, think about chopping off hands for stealing or stoning women for unfaithfulness.
Besides, if he was stealing, we still don't know why he did that. Maybe he's raised that way and doesn't know better and then his parents should be blamed and punished.
He should be punished too (if it's true, because for us it is impossible to know this). Otherwise, he'll never learn what is tolerated and what is not (and if you don't punish him, you're saying him that stealing is tolerated).
But I agree it is utterly wrong.
He should be punished too (if it's true, because for us it is impossible to know this). Otherwise, he'll never learn what is tolerated and what is not (and if you don't punish him, you're saying him that stealing is tolerated).
But I agree it is utterly wrong.
As you can see on the vid some values are local. It's not one guy tormenting the kid, it's 'everyone in the street'.
Please don't say that some values are the same everywhere, think about chopping off hands for stealing or stoning women for unfaithfulness.
Some values ARE universal. They are not being respected everywhere, that's true. But it's not all relative. If you say it's all relative to place and time, there is no possible way to judge the Nazi's (this is not Godwin). For instance, life should be respected. In every place, any time and every single case. A disrespect for life is wrong. Always.
Please don't say that some values are the same everywhere, think about chopping off hands for stealing or stoning women for unfaithfulness.
Some values ARE universal. They are not being respected everywhere, that's true. But it's not all relative. If you say it's all relative to place and time, there is no possible way to judge the Nazi's (this is not Godwin). For instance, life should be respected. In every place, any time and every single case. A disrespect for life is wrong. Always.
That's true, he should be punished too. But as a kid :)
Indeed, we agree on this, but I wanted to stress that. Because (to be a bit populist here) it is common for 'left people' to say: 'You have to understand that, he is not the fault of his behavior'. Okay, that's true, but what he did (and once again, we don't know this) should be punished. Even if he himself is not the reason why he did it.
But they are understood in different ways, hence for example the death penalty being forbidden and not forbidden in different places on earth.
And as for universal...well now we are in an era of globalisation and there are less and less differences around the world, but if you consider more 'dark' ages then you will see that in various places around the world various cultures came up with various values.
Nazis are judged the way they are because they were part of a culture that condemned what they did. But if you go back to 10th-12th century then you will see that things in Europe were totally different than they are now and your universal values were perceived in a somewhat different matter.
And as for universal...well now we are in an era of globalisation and there are less and less differences around the world, but if you consider more 'dark' ages then you will see that in various places around the world various cultures came up with various values.
Nazis are judged the way they are because they were part of a culture that condemned what they did. But if you go back to 10th-12th century then you will see that things in Europe were totally different than they are now and your universal values were perceived in a somewhat different matter.
True, but that doesn't make what they did in the dark ages less wrong. Of course, this is personal. For me, killing is wrong, in every single case. Even a man like Hitler should never be sent to death penalty (if he'd been caught alive). That's why I don't care that it is Asia. It is wrong to do this with a kid.