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Charles in the Netherlands dont you have Right-wing party in the government?
You mean nazis, no we haven't.
You mean nazis, no we haven't.
However, contrary to Charles, I don't think such parties should be forbidden to enter parliament (although their views are completely different from what I consider respectable).
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Nazis in politics isn't something that can be accepted. Doesn't have a thing to do with freedom of speech or what ever reason you can come up with, only with a wrong ideology. In the Netherlands a pedoparty tried to become political active but couldn't get enough signatures. But if they would have succeeded the next step was to stop them by law. Nazis is the same objectionable thing.
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Nazis in politics isn't something that can be accepted. Doesn't have a thing to do with freedom of speech or what ever reason you can come up with, only with a wrong ideology. In the Netherlands a pedoparty tried to become political active but couldn't get enough signatures. But if they would have succeeded the next step was to stop them by law. Nazis is the same objectionable thing.
as a citizen of a country that suffered massive human casualties and economical destruction because of a nazi occupation and a fascist military junta,i feel ashamed that ~6-8% of the Greek population are completely retarded
pasok an nd collapsed !
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I support the 4th (its new) party...
nice result
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I support the 4th (its new) party...
nice result
no i mean what i wrote...
Then I don't understand your question. Thought the question was about right-wing/nazi parties.
Then I don't understand your question. Thought the question was about right-wing/nazi parties.
Indeed :) I would too, but 'luckily' we only have idiots voting pvv/wilders, unfortunatly a lot.
We did have something that extreme right-wing in the past, but was eventually forbidden. They tried some other things, but at the end nothing was left of it and now nothing of that past party exists anymore: Centre Party (Netherlands) - wiki
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We did have something that extreme right-wing in the past, but was eventually forbidden. They tried some other things, but at the end nothing was left of it and now nothing of that past party exists anymore: Centre Party (Netherlands) - wiki
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I understand the reason that they vote them but i dont agree with that decision....
...but i dont think thats a big problem, they dont have future in Greek Parliement, people will see what they are and thats the reason that i dont agree with the forbidden of any ideology...
People can understand with arguments the position of every one
I understand the reason that they vote them but i dont agree with that decision....
...but i dont think thats a big problem, they dont have future in Greek Parliement, people will see what they are and thats the reason that i dont agree with the forbidden of any ideology...
People can understand with arguments the position of every one
People can understand with arguments the position of every one
Don't overestimate 'the people' ;)
Don't overestimate 'the people' ;)
I support the 4th (its new) party...
nice result
ANEL? Don't know much about that party.
nice result
ANEL? Don't know much about that party.
Nazis in politics isn't something that can be accepted. Doesn't have a thing to do with freedom of speech or what ever reason you can come up with, only with a wrong ideology.
It has everything to do with freedom of speech. How can you determine what is a right and what is a wrong ideology. For me, socialism is a wrong ideology too. So what? Should socialism be forbidden? Of course not.
In the Netherlands a pedoparty tried to become political active but couldn't get enough signatures. But if they would have succeeded the next step was to stop them by law. Nazis is the same objectionable thing.
If MARTIJN (I guess you're talking about them) wants to legalize pedophilia (with admission of the minor), they can try to do that. It's their right to do so. Of course, they must follow the Dutch law, in which pedophilia is forbidden (luckily!). I would never use the law to forbid a party that doesn't call for violence. It's morally wrong to do that.
Nazism is inacceptable, but people can ask for nazism or fascism if they feel like it (of course, they can't call for violence which is quite often a basic thing of nazism or fascism).
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It has everything to do with freedom of speech. How can you determine what is a right and what is a wrong ideology. For me, socialism is a wrong ideology too. So what? Should socialism be forbidden? Of course not.
In the Netherlands a pedoparty tried to become political active but couldn't get enough signatures. But if they would have succeeded the next step was to stop them by law. Nazis is the same objectionable thing.
If MARTIJN (I guess you're talking about them) wants to legalize pedophilia (with admission of the minor), they can try to do that. It's their right to do so. Of course, they must follow the Dutch law, in which pedophilia is forbidden (luckily!). I would never use the law to forbid a party that doesn't call for violence. It's morally wrong to do that.
Nazism is inacceptable, but people can ask for nazism or fascism if they feel like it (of course, they can't call for violence which is quite often a basic thing of nazism or fascism).
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We did have something that extreme right-wing in the past, but was eventually forbidden.
I'm not sure what you are referring to here, but if it is the "Centre Party", then this one was not forbidden. The CP '86 was actually the one that was disbanded and outlawed. :)
I'm not sure what you are referring to here, but if it is the "Centre Party", then this one was not forbidden. The CP '86 was actually the one that was disbanded and outlawed. :)
Inner circle: votes - Outer circle: seats in parliament
I think freedom of speech should not include lying (denying a well-documented fact such as the holocaust, which many nazi's deny) and calling for violence/hatred towards others based on something unrealistic (religion, sex, age, race).
Which many nazi's also do.
As long as they follow the laws, I guess nazis (and pedophiles) should be allowed to speak freely and form a political party if they wish.
But don't go lying, spreading hate or break laws. Although you can't do much about the lying really, all politicians and almost all people do that ;-)
Which many nazi's also do.
As long as they follow the laws, I guess nazis (and pedophiles) should be allowed to speak freely and form a political party if they wish.
But don't go lying, spreading hate or break laws. Although you can't do much about the lying really, all politicians and almost all people do that ;-)