Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

Stop reading brainwashed propaganda? You had a brainwash. OPEN YOUR EYES MAN, the world changing. Just type a search to Google about Israeli soldier's agression. Yes, they even can be as bad as few Nazi was. Because not every Nazi was bad, you racist! ;)

you are funny :-DDD.

I was complaining too about month ago, that people were spamming here about not world news and mod did not nothing, cos MOD is this game are useless :-D. But this is about news around the world, it is about situation in Syria with its connections on last similar wars around.

And if you dont like content, dont read it, if you dont have your own opinion dont post it. Nobody force you :-)

Saying Israel is worse then Nazi Germany has nothing to do with freedom of speech, this is uncalled for !

I dont know who said it.... for me.. I said just that army practice and behavior are starting to be very similar and also I can add... I dont like that Israel has extra roads for own people, that they have extra fences to protect own people and next and next... same ugly things as Hitler did and I dont like it in the past and I dont like it also now (no matter who is doing this).

If I see racist behavior or attacking aggressors I will always say that I dont like what they do.
If people in Netherlands will start do same, I will say it on this forum too, be sure.

The line of decent manners.

my line to say something (even is public dont like it maybe) is killing innocent people on both sides ....
that is my line of decent manners...

Indeed, no point discussing it with people who already set their mind ... is yours open for debating this subject because it could be that your opinion isn't the right on because of the lack of knowledge about the situation, and not immediately shoot the other because you don't like the statements? ;/

But what I think is kinda strange that you read geenstijl to get your news and post this on Sokker, unsalted rude neojournalism, but in here you're acting as some kind of saint.

O, I am open for debate no problem. Because I simply don't know enough from these kind of situations, what I do know is that it isnt all black or all white. A lot of things are grey where both sides are wrong.

Somebody who blames only 1 side I cant take serious. Open your eyes!

And about Geenstijl.nl your right there news is often provoking and rude, but sometimes they make good statements about subjects. And if I post it it's my freemdom of choiche right ? I dont say here take this article as the one and only truth.

[1] Saying Israel is worse then Nazi Germany has nothing to do with freedom of speech, [2] this is uncalled for !

[1] and [2] have nothing to do with each other. I agree that this is uncalled for (comparison of a Jewish state with Hitler is over the line of decency). I strongly disagree that this has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Freedom of speech allows people to say plain stupid things. This is a perfect example. The fact that it's stupid (who is going to judge what is stupid and what is not?), doesn't mean it has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Comparing Jews with Nazis, burning Bibles and Korans, being against equal rights for gays, ... All plain stupid in my opinion, but the remedy (being censorship) is worse than the disease (stupid 'opinions' being expressed). Freedom for you means freedom for the other people too. Luckily.

That being said, I agree with you about the content of the rest of your message, just wanted to make this clear.

I agree with you, Israel army may do so many bad things, but the prove of which society ( israelian or palestinian) give more freedom to their cititzens...is that arab israelians wnats to be part of Israel, they live with more freedom than in any arab country, so

But regular people usually has the same opinion than their home tv news has

edit: typo, that comparative form jeje
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I say it again, the one with money and absolute power over the other, and owning 1 of the most advanged armies in the world and the possibility to build a wall on land of the other without being stopped by the world is not the victim. Some areas are grey, but the overall picture isn't grey at all, just look at the numbers.

Some interesting and impressive docu's, made by Israeli about Israeli/Israel:
- To See If I'm Smiling (aka Meisjes met dienstplicht)
- Welcome to Hebron (aka Spookstad Hebron)

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My opinion is fairly simple in this case : They are both using violence towards eachother ergo they are both wrong.

Does Isreali soldiers kill "innocent" civilians ?(I wrote "innocent" because palestina doenst have offical army so its hard to tell who is rebel and who is innocent for real) Yes they do!

Does palestina rebels kill innocent civilians and soldiers from Isreal ? Yes they do!

So both are very wrong! no excuses, violence should stop inmediatley by both sides and peace should be made.

I do agree that the problem is very complex and not easy to understand.

So both are very wrong! no excuses, violence should stop inmediatley by both sides and peace should be made.

I do agree that the problem is very complex and not easy to understand.

i couldnt agree more ( and Charles will agree with that i guess )

The interesting thing for me, is that how 80%-90% aprox of people repeat the main lines their home TV news say, so its scaring how the TV does modify the basis of any opinion, and how most of people agree with facts on TV but does not show interest in making any logic auto-asseveration to check wich facts sounds logical and which not


( my english is horrible when i want to argue in a not simple way )



PD : TV today, newspapers on the past, im not blaming the Tv ( as technology) but as how its used in news times and how people does not mind about it
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The interesting thing for me, is that how 80%-90% aprox of people repeat the main lines their home TV news say, so its scaring how the TV does modify the basis of any opinion, and how most of people agree with facts on TV but does not show interest in making any logic auto-asseveration to check wich facts sounds logical and which not

True, but what bothers me at this forum is that some people (we all know who we're talking about here) just say I'm only relying on TV on those matters and due to that reason (which is wrong, I never watch TV to inform myself about problems all over the world) reject what I say without actually reacting to it. That's arrogance ("You only watch TV, I know better"). Do they think I got my political views from TV? Really? Do they think there are libertarian TV-stations in socialist Belgium?

(Not towards you personally.)

I agree with you. The best thing in situations like this is dont pick a side. When you pick a side you will defend anything your "side" does or you will be blind and not see it, just because you are so convinced your "side" is right.

Neutral is the best to be in my opnion, neutral but with strong advise to both side's to stop the violence and intolerance towards eachother.

We dont need people who are blaming eachother like :"there are wrong" and so on, we need people wo say:"how can we solve this problem in the future?" .

I agree with you. The best thing in situations like this is dont pick a side. When you pick a side you will defend anything your "side" does or you will be blind and not see it, just because you are so convinced your "side" is right.

Which is why I'd never in my life would join a political party. One starts to defend the party instead of the ideology.

Did you make a bet with someone or participate into a contest to inform us so often that you are libertarian ?

I didn't. Just spreading the world the Word ;-)