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Solution: a libertarian society in which they won't receive any support from the state.
we want to this.... but:
1. EU is angry for unhumanity then :-D
2. After no support they would all go to Belgium or UK or north countries.... and if they left in Slovakia they can alive just as criminals...so then we need close them all to jail and we dont have so much jails :-(
next better ideas ?
we want to this.... but:
1. EU is angry for unhumanity then :-D
2. After no support they would all go to Belgium or UK or north countries.... and if they left in Slovakia they can alive just as criminals...so then we need close them all to jail and we dont have so much jails :-(
next better ideas ?
no Ster... 70% of their income is from criminality :-(
sorry, we can not allow such a parallel economy.
sorry, we can not allow such a parallel economy.
There is solutions to avoid parallel economy : have a strong state to stop this... Or give to all poor people, the ability to have a decent job, a decent house, a decent car... How ? With education, education again and again... Parallel economy exists only because it permits to earn more and faster money than into the classic society...
Solution: a libertarian society in which they won't receive any support from the state.
Pfff ... trying ... you clearly found something to live for, being a missionary (aka annoying believer) who can find a connection to his ideology in every single comment so it will always end up with the same conversation :S
Pfff ... trying ... you clearly found something to live for, being a missionary (aka annoying believer) who can find a connection to his ideology in every single comment so it will always end up with the same conversation :S
In France, in Marseille city, there are quite problems who become more and more importants about some blocks who are controlled by "mafia" who use the economy of drugs... They are dominating all the power of the citizens...
Imagine, a young kid can earn 100 € a day just to wtach and prevent from the arrival of police in some areas where deals are made... Tell him to go to a factory to win 50 € per day :-)
Imagine, a young kid can earn 100 € a day just to wtach and prevent from the arrival of police in some areas where deals are made... Tell him to go to a factory to win 50 € per day :-)
Imagine a money maker who stop a factory in Europe just because it is not enough profitable for his own, then export this factory in Asia... He uses all his knwoledge to avoid paying taxes with free tax countries... 1000 people can't pay anymore their rent for appartment, become homeless thanks to this kind money maker...
How ? With education, education again and again...
theory :-DDD
1. how you want force the parents to give their children to school. You will be surprise but parents dont want let them go to school, they want use their kids mostly for criminality cos they can not go to jail.
You can make school colleges and give there their kids without agreement of their parents but then EU will tell you stop do it otherwise .... !!!
Slovakia start new program and link/connect social benefits to one mandatory condition - childs had to attend school, but this help just little.
2. Most of them have good gens for musics and so but they are really weak for decent job. And they dont want to do manual jobs in construction industry or another simple jobs, cos they can earn much more by criminality or going abroad for 1-2 years (belgium, UK and so)
3. Yes, company doesnt like employ them. If I have company I would do same, why I should employ a man if there is 95% probability that the will be cheating me. Even if state give me donation 50% of his salary I had to employ one normal man to control him.
Yes, there are also good gypsy workers , but very few, it is hard to recognize it and this very small group will never solve the problem of all community.
Gypsies dont want our european style of life ... you know... job, wife, house, bills, vacations.... they have always their nomad style of life. And we should be surprised that they like it, look on me, I am awaiting salary cos I have bills and this month I spent too much for kids... so I need money and I can be nervous. I am hardworking man. And gypsies dont go to work, his kids are alive (no matter how poor is their life in our eyes) and he dont need salary. So who is happier ???
theory :-DDD
1. how you want force the parents to give their children to school. You will be surprise but parents dont want let them go to school, they want use their kids mostly for criminality cos they can not go to jail.
You can make school colleges and give there their kids without agreement of their parents but then EU will tell you stop do it otherwise .... !!!
Slovakia start new program and link/connect social benefits to one mandatory condition - childs had to attend school, but this help just little.
2. Most of them have good gens for musics and so but they are really weak for decent job. And they dont want to do manual jobs in construction industry or another simple jobs, cos they can earn much more by criminality or going abroad for 1-2 years (belgium, UK and so)
3. Yes, company doesnt like employ them. If I have company I would do same, why I should employ a man if there is 95% probability that the will be cheating me. Even if state give me donation 50% of his salary I had to employ one normal man to control him.
Yes, there are also good gypsy workers , but very few, it is hard to recognize it and this very small group will never solve the problem of all community.
Gypsies dont want our european style of life ... you know... job, wife, house, bills, vacations.... they have always their nomad style of life. And we should be surprised that they like it, look on me, I am awaiting salary cos I have bills and this month I spent too much for kids... so I need money and I can be nervous. I am hardworking man. And gypsies dont go to work, his kids are alive (no matter how poor is their life in our eyes) and he dont need salary. So who is happier ???
He he ! That's the fundamental question : what do we really need to live ? What's the purpose of life for each other ?
Do we prefer to developp individually as it happens since about the middle of the XIXth century ? Or maybe do we prefer to live as a community (humanity) ? I have an idea for this :-) (i'm reading a book for that)
we want to this.... but:
1. EU is angry for unhumanity then :-D
2. After no support they would all go to Belgium or UK or north countries.... and if they left in Slovakia they can alive just as criminals...so then we need close them all to jail and we dont have so much jails :-(
That is because you probably want to exclude the Roma of the support of the state. If you don't support them as state, you cannot support the other Slovakians. All Slovakians (including the Roma of Slovakia) have the same rights.
Second reason is that EU is not liberal. It's neoliberal (which is - although leftists use it wrong - a hybrid form of socialism and capitalism).
1. EU is angry for unhumanity then :-D
2. After no support they would all go to Belgium or UK or north countries.... and if they left in Slovakia they can alive just as criminals...so then we need close them all to jail and we dont have so much jails :-(
That is because you probably want to exclude the Roma of the support of the state. If you don't support them as state, you cannot support the other Slovakians. All Slovakians (including the Roma of Slovakia) have the same rights.
Second reason is that EU is not liberal. It's neoliberal (which is - although leftists use it wrong - a hybrid form of socialism and capitalism).
what do we really need to live
Depends of how you look at this. You can for example look at different models that are very well known:
Maslow's hierarchy of needs, by Abraham Maslow.
Fundamental human needs, by Manfred Max-Neef and others.
ERG Theory of Motivation, by Clayton Alderfer (based on Maslow's pyramid).
Depends of how you look at this. You can for example look at different models that are very well known:
Maslow's hierarchy of needs, by Abraham Maslow.
Fundamental human needs, by Manfred Max-Neef and others.
ERG Theory of Motivation, by Clayton Alderfer (based on Maslow's pyramid).
we are supporting gypsies much more that or own people for last 20 years.
So not, gypsies dont have same rights, they have bigger rights as slovaks :-(.
But we would be not sad cos this if this supporting has some sense, but it doesnt have any :-( !
So not, gypsies dont have same rights, they have bigger rights as slovaks :-(.
But we would be not sad cos this if this supporting has some sense, but it doesnt have any :-( !
I knew these models... My question was what do we want to have in those models and what we agree to loose for the goodness of each other.
When we have children, it is very interesting how works the world... Signification of freeedom, of education, of consciousness, of needs, of satisfaction of desires...
When we have children, it is very interesting how works the world... Signification of freeedom, of education, of consciousness, of needs, of satisfaction of desires...
My question was what do we want to have in those models and what we agree to loose for the goodness of each other.
Difficult question :) In the end many people don't want to loose too much or even nothing at all, even when they have more then enough, I think :/
When we have children, it is very interesting how works the world
I don't have kids, but I also find this my (basic) needs very interesting ;)
Difficult question :) In the end many people don't want to loose too much or even nothing at all, even when they have more then enough, I think :/
When we have children, it is very interesting how works the world
I don't have kids, but I also find this my (basic) needs very interesting ;)
I don't have kids, but I also find this my (basic) needs very interesting ;)
I'm sure of that... I misexplained my thoughts... What i want to express is that with children are in your own life, you can see newly how works the world... It gives you bakc how you built your own way of life, how you define the freedom, the limits, how you define your needs, the needs of a child... A wonderful exprience for those who can and want have children obvisouly :-)
I'm sure of that... I misexplained my thoughts... What i want to express is that with children are in your own life, you can see newly how works the world... It gives you bakc how you built your own way of life, how you define the freedom, the limits, how you define your needs, the needs of a child... A wonderful exprience for those who can and want have children obvisouly :-)