Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

I don't have kids, but I also find this my (basic) needs very interesting ;)

I'm sure of that... I misexplained my thoughts... What i want to express is that with children are in your own life, you can see newly how works the world... It gives you bakc how you built your own way of life, how you define the freedom, the limits, how you define your needs, the needs of a child... A wonderful exprience for those who can and want have children obvisouly :-)

Ah, you mean they are a reflection of yourself :)

if i was you, i was asked, why israelis arabs prefer to live in israel and not in arabs countrys ?

and someone compare israeli army with the nazis, are you seriously ?

and the russian here, tell us what happened to the georgia or chechenia i dont remember, people that did you problems?

and what was happend if missils were exploted in rome, madrid, paris or london?

israel have rights on this lands 2000 years ago, they were the first, they got them after from the britains in 1917 (its happened only in 1948), and then they had a war against all the arabics countrys and israel win, they even give lands to egypt, lebanon and others, just to be in peace with them. palestinian had their place, they didnt want only it, they wanted all, they didnt care about the guys that were amasacrated in polin germany and all part of europe by hittler, while 6 millions were killed no one was care, so sorry people but the really question is why israel dont shift delete all one that want the end of the judaism (and believe me they can)

sorry for my poor english, sincerely,
ampri.

(the answer is just, that israeli people are humans)
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LOL :P Let's hope some ancient German tribe doesn't claim the Netherlands again as they were here first before we were ....... weak statement. You are talking about a time borders didn't exist and all people lived together, arabs, jews and even more races. So who can say who was first :/

Why palestinians want to live in their own country you ask? Do you want to move when the English take over the rest of your land and not only the Falkland Islands? You could easily move to Peru or Brazil, right? Who cares, is all the same don't you think ... ?? :/

And using the holocaust to give some nation the rights to claim land that isn't theirs to claim is even more strange (nicely said!). And what makes it stupid the way they did it is because many jews during that time, after WW2, already warned the zionists not to go there as they wouldn't be welcomed with open arms by the arabs, and the religious jews didn't want to go as it isn't permitted to conquer or rule the holy land before the coming of the messiah. The smart jews wanted a part of Germany to live, but the zionists didn't listen and now we can all see who was right (not only the smart jews and religious jews but also the arabs were right, as it is all still shit with israel as neighbor)

Please read the history again before saying things you clearly know way to little about.

And israel can shift delete all who doesn't want judaism, really? You think so :P And it's not about judaism but zionism, zionism is the problem for the jews who don't want anything to do with all that shit overthere (zionists aren't also by definition jews, everyone can be one). And not only the zionists but also the israeli are the main reasons why innocent jews, who distance themselves from israel, are disliked or even hated around the world, eventhough these people can't do anything about it but are punished because of the total misbehavior of these 2 groups. And do not confuse jews and israeli, they aren't the same, jews (religious and non-religious) are a race who live all over the world, israeli are the occupiers of palestina, those 2 are absolutely not the same.

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Arf ! My land was occupied by some Neanderthalian tribes some ages ago... Do you think i must take them back ?

you read what i wrote ? you write like you only defend your side and dont listen, of course in that way i dont have with who talk, you are anti-zionism of course and i dont care, maybe you hate the ajax team i dont know but for the others that want to know some more.

i am talking about the israel arabs, not about the palestinian, in israel are living something like 1 million arabs (and i am not talking about gaza) and they prefer to live in israel, where they have places for them in the universities they dont pay taxes like every one, they dont go to the army like every israeli (they must do 3 years services) and what more? they dont give a shit about the arabs of Gaza, freedom and more.

here a video that can explain the reasons in english more good than me, look it.

israel and his 7 reason

and other thing, palestinian are an invent, they werent there, they are romans that move to those lands, this lands are israeliens go to the books of history israel were there, go to Bersheva, jerusalem, tiberias and others, and look the archelogical evidences, israel were there and there proves for it. GOD give this lands to the israel people, you dont believe in god ? ok, the britain give them too to israel, not enoughf? israel have wars against the arabs all this time and always win. israel all ways want to live beside the palestinian but they dont "know" israel so in israel despite they want, they dont with who talk its like talk with charles hill (dont listen only speak), so they attack civilians and hide inside schools and hospital like a rats, so what you expect from israel ? "attack me its ok, is my foult i will seat here and wait to die, really cool ;), but no, israel are not what they were, they learn from the history that no one like them and why ? jellous, israel people are the most inteligent in the world and rules in uneversitys, novel prices and more. (its a good reason i dont say no, if someone was win me in every thing all the time i was happy with this too)

people go home and do little HW. who writes here without listen the other side, is invited to continue play sokker lonely.
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cnn tell you about this ?

FROM TODAY not 1 week ago, not 2 months ago, today !!!

Authorities cancel school in Beersheba(israel) after rocket attack

Netivot(israel) man takes cover in bathroom as rocket strikes home

i'm shure you dont know about this, how the spanish guy said, you think only what TV choose to show you, you are talking without know, people that easly shame israel from their sweety homes in all the world need to shy. israel i am with you ! all human have the right defend him self.

you write like you only defend your side

LOL :P Look how's talking. Have you read your own posts??

And your reasoning really doesn't make any sense, from the part that arabs didn't already live their together with jews and other tribes like the (palestinians) peleshet or philistine, look it up in your bible (and I'm not even talking about times before that) just as there were large jewish communities all over the arab nations before 1900 and before all the problems around israel started (look it up), the god part ofcourse (no, I don't believe in magical superbeings and ancient books of legends written by humans), the part that England gave away the land to the israeli (btw, the borders of present israel only exists form 1922/1923, because of the British Mandate of Palestine and the seperation of Transjordan), the part that Apartheid isn't happening, the part that israeli want to share the country with the palestinians (the enemy ... ofcourse they would love to share and live with the enemy ... wake up!), the part who is killing civilians (here are the statistics). I think these were all the nonsense comments of your post but maybe I missed 1 or 2.

And ofcourse I'm anti-zionism, the zionist movement is the main reason of all the problems from the start (Herzl in 1896) till today, in israel and for all the jews who don't want anything to do with this (see http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com).

A last thing that absolutely makes no sense at all, jealous because of the jews who did study a long time and are now smart people? I'm not at all jealous of them. I understand why they do that, they never want to happen something as a holocaust again, and the way to make sure it doesn't is to get to important positions all over the world. Perfectly fine for me. I don't hate or like people for who they are, like jews, but for what people do (whatever race, religion, idelogy, etc).

palestinians are roman ok? ok

they werent exist 2000 years ago ok ? ok

so who have the rights if you look to history ? israel

who have the rights from the britains? israel

who have the rigths from god (to belivers) israel

who dont want to talk to another side and want a country only of them ? palestinian

who attacks with rockets civilian people ? palestinian

who cry after this because he recieve a punishment from the another side? palestinian

israel was here before, were here 12 israliens tribus (binyamin, etc etc), and despite all of it, palestinian dont want to talk with israel, they believe they will can win the giant of israel, they couldnt were israeliens were weak in 1923-1948 and of corse now its not the time, only 1 man won the giant and this was David against goliath, or israel of 1948 that win 6 big armys, israel is waiting to talk and palestinian send rockets to civillians, sorry but they are fanatics that wait to arrive to eden with 70 virgens (good luck there).

statictics are ok, what you expect from barcelona against a little team ?

Stop trolling, please.

I think I already answered all your complete nonsense, even the crappy bible claims, you don't have to sum it up again to show who you support (talking about looking only at 1 side), I already understood. And looking at your posts you could (or maybe/probably even are) one of them, a zionist.

About the Peleshet (Philistines) = old testament. Read that book if you claim to be a believer! Apparently you didn't, or only the first page, as it is already mentioned in chapter 1, Genesis. '.... and they returned into the land of the Philistines' which cleary shows that they already lived their before that time.

And who lived where: genographic.nationalgeographic.com - Genographic Project (200.000 BC till now). So as StefNihon already wrote, hope the Neanderthalers won't come back to claim their land ....... !!

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philistines are not palestinians bro, good morning, there is not coneccion at all.

the israelies that live today in israel are the childrens of the hebrews that lived there once, palestinian call there self like that only after 1948, palestina its an invent, even jordan dont wanted recived them to the country and kill them, israel is a fact we are here, if you so good people open your doors for the poor palestinians, all of your kind of people are just hipocrecy that seat in their house and claim in facebook the world is not ok, israel is the shame, think what you write and back then to me.

here learn a little bro :

Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against:

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians – they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.

This declaration by a true “Palestinian” should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day “Palestinians” are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as “Jordanians”), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians – something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others’ history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist. Therefore, the Palestinian leaders claimed two contradictory lineages from ancient peoples that inhabited in the Land of Israel: the Canaanites and the Philistines. Let us consider both of them before going on with the Palestinian issue.

I do not use Ampri's argument about who owned the place 2,000 years ago.

However regarding the controvercial question - do Israelies have a right to live here?
Well yes, even according to your standards.
Very large parts of the land (look at the map if you can find it, it's not a huge place) were purchased by jewish funds since the 19th century, under Turkish and later English regime, and in formal way. Even them they were attacked by locals.

After the WWII the UN decision to approve a Jewish state was substantially based on the fact that great part of the land were legaly owned by Jewish citizens.
This was taken ALONG with the decision to form an Arab state that would live SIDE BY SIDE.
The Arabs did not accept this arrangement, and the consequences of the war that they declared was an even stronger Israel. What is wrong about it? Did not it happen in other places in the world?
BTW - why did not the Arabs form a palestinian state before it was occupied?

Your main claim is that Israel has no right to exist, therefore we should not defend ourselves. Some people broght statistics that put the casualties of palestinians vs the casualties of Israelies. Well again, these are just consequences, but do not tell the truth. The truth is that hundreds of rockets and misiles and thousands of mortars were shot at civilians Israeli deliberately to kill uninvolved people, whereas ALL shootings from Israel's side were aimed at people who were involved (many times documented, many times right after their deliberate hostile actions).
The numbers imply that we defend ourselves better than they attack us. That;'s all. Syrian regime can kill hundreds of people every day purposely, while every unfortunate accidental mistake by Israel allows people here to compare Israel with Nazis.
The other side celebrate each kill and praise "heroes, and are still considered innocent, while in Israel involved officers are being legaly prosecuted in court.
Our schools educate for peace, and the other side eductaes to at least suicide and kill other people.

You have the freedomn to pick a side. I guess that regardless of what I write many people will hold on to their position, and never consider my country's right to exist or even defend its citizens. You are lucky to live in countries where your neighbours in their worst days throw rotten fruit against you. Fortunately tyou were not put in such a test, and I hope you will never be.

The question here is simple. If arabs would stop war against us, there will not be war. If Israel will stop defending itself, there would not be Israelies. If Arabs tolerate Syrian treatment to their own people, how would they tolerate masacre to Jews in case they can execute it?

If someone ever tells me I only judge things from one side, I will tell them to have a talk with you and then make that claim about me ones more. I don't often read things of people wearing winkers as big as yours. You're becoming the number 1 on this forum if you continue like this!

I will post 1 picture as an example of what you are saying about cultures and who own the land, maybe this will make you think (probably not, but at least I gave it a try). It's not about israel, but that doesn't really matter as it are also invented borders by other nations and not by the people living in those countries (often the English and the French:



And please check your own contradictions in your posts about immigration and who has the right to own the land. And about what nations suddenly appeared out of the blue, can't remember the present state of israel already existed before 1948 ...... oh, it didn't, that's why.

Its so frustrating to hear criticism from people who know so little about the situation.
we should stop talking about the past and about who lived here.
all the lands in the world were concord in wars that people died in.
the fact is that today theres a country called Israel (exactly like sweden, island and so on...)
The other fact (that most of you ignore) is that MONEY AND POWER are motivating the selfish leadership of this poor palestinians population.

We, the israelis feel very sorry for the palestinian, but mostly for their poor leaders. for their leaders who can do some ugly stuff to their people (and that most of you choose to ignore or forget).

But still, even thought those palestinians are caught in the moddle, Israel as a country that cannot allow rockets fired on a daily basis on our cities.

ISRAEL IS NOT IN GAZA NOW!!!!! WE GOT OUT!!!!!!

This is politics, money, power, and not much of humanity....

For all of the people who criticis israel i must ask to try to realise what we are going throught, but really try....