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Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

2012-11-18 00:15:27
You finally show your true identity.

Edit: besides all the crap you're saying (like if having an own language is a requirement for a legitimate demand for an own state: if that was the case, what about Austria or Germany?), it's not relevant if the Palestinians are different from the other Arabs in the region. It's about them living there for centuries.
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2012-11-18 00:15:30
If we go that way then todays Israelis have jack shit with Hebrews that lived there 2000 years ago.
If Arabs who live there are butt-fucked for centuries by Brits and who not, doesn't mean they have to now too.
2012-11-18 01:06:08
Israel´s irony

-we are pacific... and our military forces is going to Gaza with 15.000-30.000 soldiers, tanks, air forces...
-we need fraternity... and we build a wall for Gaza
-is not a massacre... and we fighting with ultimate military tech, professional soldiers, and a lot money against stone, wood, and obsolete russian and Irani weapons.
-we are pure love to our palestine neighbour... and humiliate to palestine, that then dreams with destroy to us
-we attack specific targets, no civilian deads... and this is just a colateral damage
(BBC)


are words against facts
2012-11-18 01:07:45
Boom, well said, but about yourself, jagd and many here who are fed zionist media propaganda and don't know shit.

I lived in tel aviv... so look out who is taking a "zionist" propaganada and "don´t know shit"
2012-11-18 01:36:00
-we are pacific... and our military forces is going to Gaza with 15.000-30.000 soldiers, tanks, air forces...

75.000 soldiers I heard btw but israel has an army and is using it, if palestina had an army do you think is not going to use it? I think the fact to be "pacific" is that they dont attack until someone is attaking them. Show me a war where israel has been in the agressive position of invade something without any cause.

If hamas is throwing rockets to the citizens you have to defend them. This exponation is really simple or I dont know if I am a weird but as I told to the other chilenian guy, if argentina start to launch rockets to your country... what will be your response?

-we need fraternity... and we build a wall for Gaza

I never agreed with this idea of the wall

s not a massacre... and we fighting with ultimate military tech, professional soldiers, and a lot money against stone, wood, and obsolete russian and Irani weapons.

boy... there´s a large line between an army and Hamas wich are terrorist so I think you "dont" ask to equal at the same level of hamas. And of course, people still compare that hamas is fighting with rocks against israeli fighters, or molotov bottles against M16 or obsolote russian and irani weapons against alien high tech weapons

for more "obsolote" you said this weapons are, could kill people... yeah, seems true. Im sorry mate, but your argument I dont see it much acurate. I guess you will be happy if IDF destroy its weapon capability and start responding with kids throwing rocks and wood because I supouse what is happening right now is that: kids throwing rocks

we attack specific targets, no civilian deads... and this is just a colateral damage

tell hamas dont hide behind population, dont launch the rockets in schools and hospitals or I gueesing you are agreed with this terrorist strategy of human shields. Btw... the same strategy that used hezbollah in lebanon
2012-11-18 01:51:20
I lived in tel aviv... so look out who is taking a "zionist" propaganada and "don´t know shit"

And living in Tel Aviv makes you more objective, trololo.

Like I said to ampri above: "Even worse for your thinking process."
2012-11-18 01:56:25
=) you tell me
2012-11-18 01:56:39
Show me a war where israel has been in the agressive position of invade something without any cause.

Hmm, let me think, oh yeah, this fucking one.
International community sees the settlements on occupied land as illegal, but Israel gives jack shit about IC and just makes more of them every day.
Show me a war where israel has been in the agressive position of invade something without any cause.

Six-day-war.
2012-11-18 02:35:23
It´s not possible mention the word "war", because a "war" for me, needs similar condition or "some equal" in forces; in Gaza obviously dont have high-tech or ultimate weapons.

rockets and similars are the expresions of a poor "nation" (basically, a jail)... if you haven´t nothing more to loss like that people, and the only thing that you have has been destroyed by Israel (hope), suicide attacks, rockets and old russians-irani weapons is your only method to fight.

if argentina start to launch rockets to your country... what will be your response?

that is a incongruent suposition; Argentina and Chile are 2 nation-state, with army, profesional militaries, high tech weapons, similar forces to fight, maybe similar money.... Gaza haven´t anyone of that things; and Argentina is not a jail, not a poor nation...

even, if you compare only man against man, Israel wins by his military learning and methods, like the krav maga... Gaza only have ideals and himself.

if you lived in Tel-Aviv, try to imagine live in Gaza in that under-human conditions


America (north-central-south) born from ideals and fighting against the opression (principally, Spain-England-Portugal)... now imagine a cuasi-holocaust palestine in a jail named Gaza.
2012-11-18 02:56:14
anyway, the point is the Israel state, not a general attack to jews, are 2 things separated, the same that Sionism and Jews.

I understand your viewpoint, because you have conection with Israel, but is insane defend a "war" that is really a massacre.

even I remember that ampri said in a politic forum in oldest time, that he is a paractrooper of Israel Defense Forces, probably he knows more that anyone "that is a war", but his view is biased in indoctrination.

is hard try a neutral-view in this thing, objetivity are only supositions and diffuse-lines
2012-11-18 03:43:18
that he is a paratrooper of Israel Defense Forces

This gets "better" with every new post :)
2012-11-18 07:06:25
Hmm, let me think, oh yeah, this fucking one.
International community sees the settlements on occupied land as illegal, but Israel gives jack shit about IC and just makes more of them every day.


Altough there may be some truth in your comment, it's to bad you spread propaganda like others and then say you don't.

Does the Goverment of Israel settle this villages ? No, there are settlement's that the Israelian police/IDF clear/demolish from these builded villages because Israelian court decided so.


:)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19457337

http://www.voanews.com/content/israel-settlements-court-dismantle-palestinians/666661.html
2012-11-18 12:03:56
Does the Goverment of Israel settle this villages ?

The Israeli government has built the wall inside the West Bank to protect those settlements.
Show me a war where israel has been in the agressive position of invade something without any cause.

Six-day-war.


without any cause?
Without any justified cause.