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every country has a debt and most of countries are paying that debt back or are able and pay interest regularly. A lot of countries had to cancel some part of your debt (not voluntary act) cos you are not able to pay it back.
Dont talk me about financial crises or bad politicians, take it more as real life. If you will ask me for loans I will want it back. Simple.
If EFSF will cancel next part of your debt Slovakia will had to pay it back to EU instead of you!!! Please, read this bold sentence three times, cos Slovaks risk their money for you ass too and your government is still stealing !!!
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Dont talk me about financial crises or bad politicians, take it more as real life. If you will ask me for loans I will want it back. Simple.
If EFSF will cancel next part of your debt Slovakia will had to pay it back to EU instead of you!!! Please, read this bold sentence three times, cos Slovaks risk their money for you ass too and your government is still stealing !!!
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this table is bad, slovaks have debt around 45-50% of GDP.
We had about 10% less and stable debt before lending money to EFSF which creation was started by greek case.
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We had about 10% less and stable debt before lending money to EFSF which creation was started by greek case.
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there was just one good solution, bankruptcy. You could go to bankruptcy and then ask for news loans or sell state property or islands to get new money and start again.
But all your pensions and other savings will be erased or much lower cos big devaluation of your new currency. But still better then lending money again and again.
I am just surprised why TROJKA and EFSf is still lending you next money without starting huge privatization.
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But all your pensions and other savings will be erased or much lower cos big devaluation of your new currency. But still better then lending money again and again.
I am just surprised why TROJKA and EFSf is still lending you next money without starting huge privatization.
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If! mpla mpla mpla
when it hapens talk then!
the extra loans is for the banks not for the country but i will pay that for my taxes you know!
and if you dont agree with that risk protest to your politician who made that choice not to me (as i am doing)! ;)
PS we are talking about ex minister not in this goverment so you dont know a thing and still talking...
when it hapens talk then!
the extra loans is for the banks not for the country but i will pay that for my taxes you know!
and if you dont agree with that risk protest to your politician who made that choice not to me (as i am doing)! ;)
PS we are talking about ex minister not in this goverment so you dont know a thing and still talking...
you are earning money from the interests and the money is giving you back with the interest
Like we will ever see all our money back. You guys are never going to be able to do that. We know that, you know that. So don't pretend we'll earn money by giving loans to Greece.
Like we will ever see all our money back. You guys are never going to be able to do that. We know that, you know that. So don't pretend we'll earn money by giving loans to Greece.
thats your opinion.
its not a fact.
we will give the money back same as Belgium will give back his own depts... ;)
(in matter of fact Greece is in better position from many others like Belgium http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite2_1_20/12/2012_475484
if we are not, blame your politicians for their choices...
Ask your self how much are the depts of each country and wonder if they will payd back.
Will USA give back 17 trilions, or Japan, or Uk or the European countries etc?
How much was the global dept in 2002 and how much now? (its 200% up to help you)
And its all fake money from the banks but they want real money back.
Greece and south European countrys was just the weakest and the first that the dept problem came up, every other country is following...
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its not a fact.
we will give the money back same as Belgium will give back his own depts... ;)
(in matter of fact Greece is in better position from many others like Belgium http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite2_1_20/12/2012_475484
if we are not, blame your politicians for their choices...
Ask your self how much are the depts of each country and wonder if they will payd back.
Will USA give back 17 trilions, or Japan, or Uk or the European countries etc?
How much was the global dept in 2002 and how much now? (its 200% up to help you)
And its all fake money from the banks but they want real money back.
Greece and south European countrys was just the weakest and the first that the dept problem came up, every other country is following...
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I agree. I blame our politicians for that. You can say stupid slovak politicians give us next money :-) and I will not make protest against this statment. (ok, exactly we just give higher guarantees to EFSF who is lending you money, so no interest for Slovaks but interest for EFSF!!)
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Slovakia refused lend you money as first state in EU. At the times when no efsf exist and countries just lend you money together (first stage of help). But in efsf we are evolved too (second stage) and with the biggest share in EU (the biggest share in money/gdp)
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Jimceasar, if Greeks are going really to pay that debt then:
1. you can not pay it back, there is large part which was already erased for EVER !!
2. sorry, but Greeks economists are stupid, you can try pay debt back, at least down to 60% as EU rules says, but it will takes 200 years. If you make a bankruptcy and start again with new currency, you can be back in prosperity zone in 5 years and maybe after next five years you can prove that now you are real so strong and so honest country that you can adopt euro again without cheating.
but your choice :-)
And please, dont feel angry against me, turned it on your politicians and sheep who voted them so many years ! If you ask me stop talking, stop asking for next money !
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Slovakia refused lend you money as first state in EU. At the times when no efsf exist and countries just lend you money together (first stage of help). But in efsf we are evolved too (second stage) and with the biggest share in EU (the biggest share in money/gdp)
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Jimceasar, if Greeks are going really to pay that debt then:
1. you can not pay it back, there is large part which was already erased for EVER !!
2. sorry, but Greeks economists are stupid, you can try pay debt back, at least down to 60% as EU rules says, but it will takes 200 years. If you make a bankruptcy and start again with new currency, you can be back in prosperity zone in 5 years and maybe after next five years you can prove that now you are real so strong and so honest country that you can adopt euro again without cheating.
but your choice :-)
And please, dont feel angry against me, turned it on your politicians and sheep who voted them so many years ! If you ask me stop talking, stop asking for next money !
in matter of fact Greece is in better position from many others like Belgium
No trolling please.
if we are not, blame your politicians for their choices...
I am blaming them.
And its all fake money from the banks but they want real money back.
Monopoly or is it another brand?
Greece and south European countrys was just the weakest and the first that the dept problem came up, every other country is following...
The fact that you guys have a weak economy and a bad discipline / moral concerning politics and paying taxes is your own fault. That makes you vulnerable when there is a crisis. I'm pretty sure countries like Sweden, Finland or Germany will not follow Southern Europe.
No trolling please.
if we are not, blame your politicians for their choices...
I am blaming them.
And its all fake money from the banks but they want real money back.
Monopoly or is it another brand?
Greece and south European countrys was just the weakest and the first that the dept problem came up, every other country is following...
The fact that you guys have a weak economy and a bad discipline / moral concerning politics and paying taxes is your own fault. That makes you vulnerable when there is a crisis. I'm pretty sure countries like Sweden, Finland or Germany will not follow Southern Europe.
1. you can not pay it back, there is large part which was already erased for EVER !!
not from your money
But in efsf we are evolved too (second stage) and with the biggest share in EU (the biggest share in money/gdp)
thats your problem, if you dont like it go away from EE.
2. sorry, but Greeks economists are stupid, you can try pay debt back, at least down to 60% as EU rules says, but it will takes 200 years. If you make a bankruptcy and start again with new currency, you can be back in prosperity zone in 5 years and maybe after next five years you can prove that now you are real so strong and so honest country that you can adopt euro again without cheating.
i aggre that the solution was the bankruptcy dude. thats my position too!
And please, dont feel angry against me, turned it on your politicians and sheep who voted them so many years ! If you ask me stop talking, stop asking for next money !
with you i feel aggre with the racist arrogant comments, nothing more.
i dont asking for anything, the politicians does so go tell them...
not from your money
But in efsf we are evolved too (second stage) and with the biggest share in EU (the biggest share in money/gdp)
thats your problem, if you dont like it go away from EE.
2. sorry, but Greeks economists are stupid, you can try pay debt back, at least down to 60% as EU rules says, but it will takes 200 years. If you make a bankruptcy and start again with new currency, you can be back in prosperity zone in 5 years and maybe after next five years you can prove that now you are real so strong and so honest country that you can adopt euro again without cheating.
i aggre that the solution was the bankruptcy dude. thats my position too!
And please, dont feel angry against me, turned it on your politicians and sheep who voted them so many years ! If you ask me stop talking, stop asking for next money !
with you i feel aggre with the racist arrogant comments, nothing more.
i dont asking for anything, the politicians does so go tell them...
Levitate sorry i am not answering to trols
Look, I know that you have big problem and it is not your mistake or mistake of some individuals. And I also dont like democracy because it allows to sheep vote in election (all world have same sheep, not just you have, slovaks have them too :-) )
And you will probably agree that many of your politicians should be hanged on (we have some similar too in slovakia).
but:
1. you had many years much higher pensions and salaries, especially salaries of state employees at the past. Slovaks didnt have !! We are poor country but we are not voting such a parties which will promise us better life for loans, Greeks did it, you can not refuse this fact. So dont be surprised that we dont like Greeks problem. Try to understand us. We are poor but stable country. Greece was more rich but very unstable cheating country. Greek's politicians did it, your elections allow it and all greeks are voters. What to say more....
2. France and German banks were lending you money and every economists had to know it that nobody will be able to pay it back. They should bankrupt too ! But EU think out the "great" plan how to save these banks, spread their loses into whole EU and commit Greeks pay the rest of it. I dont like it but banks are not the only one who is guilty. Guilty are Greek's politicians and its voters and banks togheter.
3. Greeks dont pay / give / help Slovaks by anything.
Slovakia make a guarantees which we will need really pay by money if you will bankrupt or erase some debt.
As I said poor stable country had to help rich unstable country. We raised our debt significantly just because we need help such a pigs countries like greece, italy, spain and others... The poor are helping to rich, dont be surprise that we can be very angry!
And you will probably agree that many of your politicians should be hanged on (we have some similar too in slovakia).
but:
1. you had many years much higher pensions and salaries, especially salaries of state employees at the past. Slovaks didnt have !! We are poor country but we are not voting such a parties which will promise us better life for loans, Greeks did it, you can not refuse this fact. So dont be surprised that we dont like Greeks problem. Try to understand us. We are poor but stable country. Greece was more rich but very unstable cheating country. Greek's politicians did it, your elections allow it and all greeks are voters. What to say more....
2. France and German banks were lending you money and every economists had to know it that nobody will be able to pay it back. They should bankrupt too ! But EU think out the "great" plan how to save these banks, spread their loses into whole EU and commit Greeks pay the rest of it. I dont like it but banks are not the only one who is guilty. Guilty are Greek's politicians and its voters and banks togheter.
3. Greeks dont pay / give / help Slovaks by anything.
Slovakia make a guarantees which we will need really pay by money if you will bankrupt or erase some debt.
As I said poor stable country had to help rich unstable country. We raised our debt significantly just because we need help such a pigs countries like greece, italy, spain and others... The poor are helping to rich, dont be surprise that we can be very angry!
rumpil i undrstand...
My position is like yours, i aggre that the solution was the bankruptcy dude, thats my position too!
the reason that they dont leaving us bankrupt is the oil gas that we we have and we will export in few years and Germany wants it for not buying from Rusia and the 2nd reason is that the global banksters wants the nations to be hostages of them with the depts.
Please take a look in this article and if you want to contineu the conversation lets do it in other topic.
PS The problem is that this type of "Democracy" is oligarhy with fake choices and an ilusion of democracy and not real Democracy. There are only lying before the elections and then they serve those interests whose paying them Only Switzerland and maybe few more states have real
democracy with referendums, limit in the times that they can be in the parliement, independend justice etc.
My position is like yours, i aggre that the solution was the bankruptcy dude, thats my position too!
the reason that they dont leaving us bankrupt is the oil gas that we we have and we will export in few years and Germany wants it for not buying from Rusia and the 2nd reason is that the global banksters wants the nations to be hostages of them with the depts.
Please take a look in this article and if you want to contineu the conversation lets do it in other topic.
PS The problem is that this type of "Democracy" is oligarhy with fake choices and an ilusion of democracy and not real Democracy. There are only lying before the elections and then they serve those interests whose paying them Only Switzerland and maybe few more states have real
democracy with referendums, limit in the times that they can be in the parliement, independend justice etc.
this table is bad, slovaks have debt around 45-50% of GDP.
We had about 10% less and stable debt before lending money to EFSF which creation was started by greek case.
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esternal debt isd not public debt.
We had about 10% less and stable debt before lending money to EFSF which creation was started by greek case.
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esternal debt isd not public debt.