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Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

I don't understand why the media reports extensively about the gang rape cases in India but very little about much more indicative and interesting case in the US American Steubenville high school.

I had to find out about this case through an accidental comment on a news portal. This is a much more worrying case as there are so many people involved that could have done something at some point and they didn't. Instead, they filmed the whole thing.

The lessons of Steubenville
2013-02-04 16:47:31
2013-02-05 15:00:23
"Parliament's institutional communicators must have the ability to monitor public conversation and sentiment on the ground and in real time, to understand 'trending topics' and have the capacity to react quickly, in a targeted and relevant manner, to join in and influence the conversation, for example, by providing facts and figures to deconstructing myths."

If the EU opponents use the internet as a tool to spread their ideas, why shouldn't the EU defenders do the same, specially when it's done with facts? And troll patrol is a very strange name for something common used on the internet called web crawlers :/
2013-02-05 15:21:06
if EU wants publicity they should defend the intersest of the 80% of europeans ( workers, little owners of little companies, piublic workers such as doctors or mail man), this is the publicity they need


otherwise, i see the EU as a prolongation of the FMI ( fondo monetario internacional, international fund .,..)
2013-02-05 16:41:06
If the EU opponents use the internet as a tool to spread their ideas, why shouldn't the EU defenders do the same, specially when it's done with facts?

LOL,
I think we were in democracy,
so PEOPLE talks and decide what institutions must do and become.
not the opposite.

An institution working in propaganda is what we saw in totalitarism (in Italy with Mussolini we had the "propaganda Minister"!!!), where institutions didn't like free thought so much.

And this without discussing the fact that EU uses MY money to make ME change my idea about itself...

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If the EU opponents use the internet as a tool to spread their ideas, why shouldn't the EU defenders do the same, specially when it's done with facts? And troll patrol is a very strange name for something common used on the internet called web crawlers :/

I wish you the best of luck in trying to defend the current EU by using facts. You'll need it.
2013-02-05 17:15:55
And this without discussing the fact that EU uses MY money to make ME change my idea about itself...

That's a valid argument, but you cannot use that, I'm sorry. You can only use it if you use it consistently. The whole concept of 'the government' is based on using people's money against their will.
2013-02-05 17:27:49
The whole concept of 'the government' is based on using people's money against their will.

ehm.. I think you missed that part about democracy used as a trasmission mechanism for bringing power from people to govs (an back again).
2013-02-05 17:34:59
The question is, is joining discussions about the EU really propaganda, or nothing more as joining discussions to shift the perspectives?

I think it becomes a problem when the EU starts closing sites that are used as anti EU sites, but that's not what they do, or not that I know of.

And about that money, I don't know who are taking part in those anti EU discussions. I know some Dutch politicians are anti EU and can easily use some nickname to spread their anti EU thoughts, and their salaries are also paid from my money. The same can happen in your country, with your money already.

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2013-02-05 19:50:12
I can't undestand your point.
If I pay a politicians to represent me, I choos him, and what he does in his "freetime" even for political problems is another question.

the point I can't stand is that an european institution take a side in internal countries UE debate to influece them.
2013-02-05 20:22:46
Almost 2 million GBP... Wow! What an incredible amount of money! That's really a reason why we should end the European Union.

Btw, EP is also elected.
2013-02-06 00:11:16
Who knows when they do that, maybe not in their free time ;) And you may support 1 side and don't mind when they do that, others support a different side and also don't mind when they do that.

And my point is very simple, people who do believe in what they do, specially when it are their jobs, won't just watch and do nothing while EU opponents say whatever they want and whenever they want on the internet, included lies and myths to break down the EU.
2013-02-06 08:00:35
lies and myths to break down the EU

I understand you believe in UE project.
I don't.
I think euro fans tells a lot more lies than their opponents.

Ue is a project to make workers compete without the correction of the change fluttuation.
UE is a project for make the income distribution more polarized than before.
2013-02-06 15:54:06
UE wants to fired journalist who are just speaking there mind about the UE. So cleraly they are against freedom of speech.

Dont believe me ?

Look here :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/leveson-inquiry/9817625/Leveson-EU-wants-power-to-sack-journalists.html#
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2013-02-06 19:25:27
New age for humans is coming sooner and sooner : REX
2013-02-07 13:00:22
I understand you believe in UE project.

Parts of it yes, but absolutely not all.

One of the problems I have with the EU is that many, too many, of the laws we have to obey nowadays are made in Brussels, decided by representatives of countries who should not interfere with my country as too many of these countries don't have the same mentality, standards, history, etc. In my eyes for example southern and eastern Europe is completely different as north-western Europe.

If you look at the number of votes each EU country has and represented political parties in Europe vs the Dutch EU votes and political demography in the Netherlands, you will understand the problem I have with this all:
wiki -Council of the European Union

Not to mention the unfairness looking at how much EU votes the Netherlands has and how much we pay the EU as net contributors vs the number of votes countries have as net recipients:
government.nl - European economic and monetary policy
wiki - Budget of the European Union

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