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integration of school programs and structure? referendum
I don't see why that should be necessary. In Flanders, we have one of the best school systems of Europe. I don't want to compromise that. Different systems increase competition, which increases the quality.
fiscal integration (same taxes for every country)? referendum
See above. Differences increase competition, and I can only hope it's a race to the bottom, although it doesn't seem like it is at the moment.
integration of labour market's rules? referendum
Not necessary. (Apart from free movement of labor.)
integration of police and sicurity laws? referendum
I'm pro because of economies of scale.
By the way, it is impossible to find a compromise that will be voted "yes" by every single member state. Impossible. At some point in the integration process, one must realize that the European level can also be a level of democracy, not only the nation state level.
I don't see why that should be necessary. In Flanders, we have one of the best school systems of Europe. I don't want to compromise that. Different systems increase competition, which increases the quality.
fiscal integration (same taxes for every country)? referendum
See above. Differences increase competition, and I can only hope it's a race to the bottom, although it doesn't seem like it is at the moment.
integration of labour market's rules? referendum
Not necessary. (Apart from free movement of labor.)
integration of police and sicurity laws? referendum
I'm pro because of economies of scale.
By the way, it is impossible to find a compromise that will be voted "yes" by every single member state. Impossible. At some point in the integration process, one must realize that the European level can also be a level of democracy, not only the nation state level.
Which by itself increases peace (either products cross the border or armies do).
Sure, tell about the use of free trade to a muslim extremist. It increases peace ceteris paribus. And ceteris paribus doesn't exist in real life, only in basic economics school-books.
I think stopping with playing the policeman around the world and stop acting like you're the moral highness would benefit the image of the States.
On the long run, yes. Maybe if the US would stop acting like that for the next 60 years, the world would start realizing it. Until then, many things will happen of course.
Sure, tell about the use of free trade to a muslim extremist. It increases peace ceteris paribus. And ceteris paribus doesn't exist in real life, only in basic economics school-books.
I think stopping with playing the policeman around the world and stop acting like you're the moral highness would benefit the image of the States.
On the long run, yes. Maybe if the US would stop acting like that for the next 60 years, the world would start realizing it. Until then, many things will happen of course.
Differences increase competition
that's the problem,
you can't have an unificated moetary system and still make regional internal competition.
It is what is killing euro right now.
that's the problem,
you can't have an unificated moetary system and still make regional internal competition.
It is what is killing euro right now.
Well, you'll have to span such a period of time at some point if you want to stop intervening around the world. You cannot work on your image on the long run while still being a policeman on the short run.
And don't forget that if the States withdraw from their foreign bases, a huge budget and a large amount of soldiers will become available to protect for instance their borders.
And don't forget that if the States withdraw from their foreign bases, a huge budget and a large amount of soldiers will become available to protect for instance their borders.
you can't have an unificated moetary system and still make regional internal competition.
Sure you can. Look at the United States. If you chose for a state-led monetary system (which I don't support, but let's assume this is the case), some rules will be made at the European level. This doesn't mean there can't be regional competition within Europe.
Sure you can. Look at the United States. If you chose for a state-led monetary system (which I don't support, but let's assume this is the case), some rules will be made at the European level. This doesn't mean there can't be regional competition within Europe.
When do you voted for fiscal compact? When for euro coin?
I have never voted for those. In Hungary, (luckily) we don't have euro, and for fiscal compact, our gov gave a big maybe. So basically we don't have that yet either. However, when you vote on your national elections, you can have a look on your favourite party's EU policy, and vote accordingly.
My main point is:
I agree that EU should be more democratic someday, but right now it's national sovereignty which obstructs that. And that's not something that anybody would like to give up so easily.
I have never voted for those. In Hungary, (luckily) we don't have euro, and for fiscal compact, our gov gave a big maybe. So basically we don't have that yet either. However, when you vote on your national elections, you can have a look on your favourite party's EU policy, and vote accordingly.
My main point is:
I agree that EU should be more democratic someday, but right now it's national sovereignty which obstructs that. And that's not something that anybody would like to give up so easily.
Well, you'll have to span such a period of time at some point if you want to stop intervening around the world. You cannot work on your image on the long run while still being a policeman on the short run.
In such large systems, like world policy, you can only make gradual changes. I can also make up great ideas, how world should work, but that would have no reality. Communists tried it, but they failed.
In such large systems, like world policy, you can only make gradual changes. I can also make up great ideas, how world should work, but that would have no reality. Communists tried it, but they failed.
Why should banks be allowed to create money?
That is a very good question.
Why should sovereign governments ever have to borrow money from anyone?
That is another very good question.
Our current system is designed to enrich the bankers and get everyone else into debt.
And is that not exactly what has happened?
Taking the creation of money away from the bankers would have some tremendous advantages
take a look to:
What If We Adopted A System Where The Banks Did Not Create Our Money?
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That is a very good question.
Why should sovereign governments ever have to borrow money from anyone?
That is another very good question.
Our current system is designed to enrich the bankers and get everyone else into debt.
And is that not exactly what has happened?
Taking the creation of money away from the bankers would have some tremendous advantages
take a look to:
What If We Adopted A System Where The Banks Did Not Create Our Money?
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And is that not exactly what has happened?
No.
No.
trooooliiiing!!!
you didnt even see the link...
you didnt even see the link...
Sure you can. Look at the United States
LOL they are a lot ore united than us (at least 200 yo unity) they don't have different languages, ruels for tax and work are the same...
and still they compensate from richer states to poorer states with internal money transfers!!!
LOL they are a lot ore united than us (at least 200 yo unity) they don't have different languages, ruels for tax and work are the same...
and still they compensate from richer states to poorer states with internal money transfers!!!
I've read it. It's just the American-type libertarian populism with lots of inaccuracies and slippy arguments. There's more emphasis on how evil banks are, than how would this dream work. It's the same bs as this cartoon:
Too bad, because I really like alternative theories, but most of them disappoint me.
Too bad, because I really like alternative theories, but most of them disappoint me.
it just tools for thinking alternative theories, dont ask for magic recipes!
The fact is that the current bubble system is wrong.
so we must search for a better one...
The fact is that the current bubble system is wrong.
so we must search for a better one...
Nope. I didn't.
I don't need to to know that banks don't create money. Only the central bank does (~inflation tax).
I don't need to to know that banks don't create money. Only the central bank does (~inflation tax).
ruels for tax and work are the same
That's not true. Federal taxes are the same. A lot of the taxes are not federal though.
And this is not the point. You said you cannot have one monetary policy and internal competition. I showed you an example that proves your statement is incorrect.
and still they compensate from richer states to poorer states with internal money transfers
Actually, they don't. You should study the federal system some more. The difference with Europe is that in America, supply of labor forces is very flexible (people often move to other states) which makes sure that there is a certain balanced within the States that is maintained. In Europe, we aren't flexible. We rarely move to other parts of our country, most certainly not very often to other countries.
There are no direct transfers from rich states to other states. None accept for the federal tax system (but that is not a direct transfer, it's an indirect transfer).
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That's not true. Federal taxes are the same. A lot of the taxes are not federal though.
And this is not the point. You said you cannot have one monetary policy and internal competition. I showed you an example that proves your statement is incorrect.
and still they compensate from richer states to poorer states with internal money transfers
Actually, they don't. You should study the federal system some more. The difference with Europe is that in America, supply of labor forces is very flexible (people often move to other states) which makes sure that there is a certain balanced within the States that is maintained. In Europe, we aren't flexible. We rarely move to other parts of our country, most certainly not very often to other countries.
There are no direct transfers from rich states to other states. None accept for the federal tax system (but that is not a direct transfer, it's an indirect transfer).
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Actually, they don't.
ok, lets discuss something else.
ok, lets discuss something else.