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Apparently, you are in favor of this measure. How would you make sure that there is no bank run if this measure isn't changed?
well the point is that if you close bamks and bancomats..
there can't be any bank run..
(at least before the "cut", doing it after is quite useless..)
there can't be any bank run..
(at least before the "cut", doing it after is quite useless..)
the "funny" thing is that cyprus banks are full of deposit of russians billionaire..
so a large part of this tax will be payed by foreginers..
so a large part of this tax will be payed by foreginers..
Before you can tax, the legislation must be published. So you're going to close the banks until the legislation gets published? Nice democracy.
By the way, if they tax this once, they can do it twice. So people still have incentives to take the money away from the bank (which would make the bank go broke).
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By the way, if they tax this once, they can do it twice. So people still have incentives to take the money away from the bank (which would make the bank go broke).
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Before you can tax, the legislation must be published. So you're going to close the banks until the legislation gets published? Nice democracy.
Yes of course.
in Italy it was done with a government "urgent" decision during the weekend.
BTW: What the hell has this to do with democracy..?
It is funny to understand what means that Cyprus banks capitalization is 7 times its GDP.
so if the banks were saved as it was done to greece (giving loans to state that gives money to banks) their public debt will explode!
if you do an "haircut" on public debt you do an error because that banks owns that debits..
if you make more taxation on other services/incomes it will be entirely paid by cyprus's citizens
if the banks will be saved with this measure no public debt and no haircut, and the most part will be paid from other countries people: simply the best plan!
:O
Yes of course.
in Italy it was done with a government "urgent" decision during the weekend.
BTW: What the hell has this to do with democracy..?
It is funny to understand what means that Cyprus banks capitalization is 7 times its GDP.
so if the banks were saved as it was done to greece (giving loans to state that gives money to banks) their public debt will explode!
if you do an "haircut" on public debt you do an error because that banks owns that debits..
if you make more taxation on other services/incomes it will be entirely paid by cyprus's citizens
if the banks will be saved with this measure no public debt and no haircut, and the most part will be paid from other countries people: simply the best plan!
:O
Aside from that, it's quite funny that you suddenly don't have any access to your money - I wonder if that's perfectly legal, depends on the contract...
btw. if they closed my bank account after friday, then I would have absolutely no money in my pocket and a freezer filled only with ketchup, mustard, 2 yoghurts and some unfinished booze. That would've been a funny weekend!
btw. if they closed my bank account after friday, then I would have absolutely no money in my pocket and a freezer filled only with ketchup, mustard, 2 yoghurts and some unfinished booze. That would've been a funny weekend!
BTW: What the hell has this to do with democracy..?
Well, you change the rules of banking. I believe that in a good democracy, all legislation must be published and people should have a chance to anticipate the legislation.
In Belgium, legislation is always announced months before. If that is impossible, then there is something wrong with the legislation if you ask me.
Well, you change the rules of banking. I believe that in a good democracy, all legislation must be published and people should have a chance to anticipate the legislation.
In Belgium, legislation is always announced months before. If that is impossible, then there is something wrong with the legislation if you ask me.
Aside from that, it's quite funny that you suddenly don't have any access to your money - I wonder if that's perfectly legal, depends on the contract...
Well, it's probably legal in your country too, regardless of the contract. The contract is between you and the bank. Closing the banks is not a bank decision in this case, it's a government decision. So none of the two partners in the contract break the contract.
btw. if they closed my bank account after friday, then I would have absolutely no money in my pocket and a freezer filled only with ketchup, mustard, 2 yoghurts and some unfinished booze. That would've been a funny weekend!
A funny weekend indeed :p
Well, it's probably legal in your country too, regardless of the contract. The contract is between you and the bank. Closing the banks is not a bank decision in this case, it's a government decision. So none of the two partners in the contract break the contract.
btw. if they closed my bank account after friday, then I would have absolutely no money in my pocket and a freezer filled only with ketchup, mustard, 2 yoghurts and some unfinished booze. That would've been a funny weekend!
A funny weekend indeed :p
Firstly, I'd imagine that radical atheists don't say that they know god doesn't exist.
When someone says, that believers (for example me) are stupid and weak, and he says we believe in fairy tales, it just sounds so confident, that I assume they claim to know, that God doesn't exist. Maybe I'm wrong in this case, but I've met people, who said the know word too.
Secondly, whilst there still doesn't exist 100% proof either way, it is either malicious or stupid to suggest that we should call it 50/50.
Ok. So you say it's not 100%, but it's not 50/50 either. What are the chances then in your opinion, and why? 75/25? 99/1? Why does it matter? As far as I know, the fact is, we don't know anything about the chances. People can choose to believe or not. I don't mind if people say they don't believe, it's their personal choice and doesn't effect me. But when someone calls me names just for picking one of the options, I don't think that I'm either the malicious or the stupid one.
When someone says, that believers (for example me) are stupid and weak, and he says we believe in fairy tales, it just sounds so confident, that I assume they claim to know, that God doesn't exist. Maybe I'm wrong in this case, but I've met people, who said the know word too.
Secondly, whilst there still doesn't exist 100% proof either way, it is either malicious or stupid to suggest that we should call it 50/50.
Ok. So you say it's not 100%, but it's not 50/50 either. What are the chances then in your opinion, and why? 75/25? 99/1? Why does it matter? As far as I know, the fact is, we don't know anything about the chances. People can choose to believe or not. I don't mind if people say they don't believe, it's their personal choice and doesn't effect me. But when someone calls me names just for picking one of the options, I don't think that I'm either the malicious or the stupid one.
I say it's 50/50. He's either there or He isn't. ;)
I'm neither for nor against this measure. I don't know all the facts. I'm against opinions without arguments about it. It seems as a reasonable option if the alternative is either this or bankruptcy.
in italy we had it in 1992 (0.6% of evey bank deposit)
the day after everything was the same..
The plan, announced on March 16, would impose a minimum 6.75 percent tax on even the smallest accounts.
You see the difference?
@alien And so you really believe that when billions and billions of euros will be all over the houses in mattresses, then nobody will steal them, i.e. the money will be safe?
Im almost convinced that those companies who had billions and billions of euros there had moved them at the first info leak, and this tax will be sucked up by common people, as always.
the day after everything was the same..
The plan, announced on March 16, would impose a minimum 6.75 percent tax on even the smallest accounts.
You see the difference?
@alien And so you really believe that when billions and billions of euros will be all over the houses in mattresses, then nobody will steal them, i.e. the money will be safe?
Im almost convinced that those companies who had billions and billions of euros there had moved them at the first info leak, and this tax will be sucked up by common people, as always.
Im almost convinced that those companies who had billions and billions of euros there had moved them at the first info leak, and this tax will be sucked up by common people, as always.
LOL But if they took most of the billions away, what's the fuss all about then? :)
LOL But if they took most of the billions away, what's the fuss all about then? :)
Its about breaking the human rights, the right to property. This is not a tax, deposits below 100k euros are most likely common people's deposits, money for which they've already payed taxes. Its a very dangerous precedence and its against all the fundamental laws. Imagine that those 6.75%-10% were already blocked on Friday while they were talking in Bruxelles. Anyways, this thing wont pass the Parliament, but imagine if IMF and the European Commission could take your property when they want...
I'm against opinions without arguments about it. It seems as a reasonable option if the alternative is either this or bankruptcy.
You know my argumentation. Taxation is theft.
You know my argumentation. Taxation is theft.
You're talking nonsense. What precedence? Bank going bankrupt? That's a precedence? Were you born yesterday? Can't you read? It's either 90% or bankruptcy, i.e. going towards zero and coming late or never.
What breaking of human rights? You're advocating that people lose ALL their money. And that also wouldn't be breaking of human rights.
My bank can go bankrupt tomorow as well. I am aware of that and I still don't put money in my matress. You go and put yours in the matress and then beware of Gypsies instead of bankers. ;)
What breaking of human rights? You're advocating that people lose ALL their money. And that also wouldn't be breaking of human rights.
My bank can go bankrupt tomorow as well. I am aware of that and I still don't put money in my matress. You go and put yours in the matress and then beware of Gypsies instead of bankers. ;)