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www.amazon.com - Books › Science Fiction & Fantasy › Ayn Rand

Of course it's fiction/fantasy. I'm just saying the comparison with Hubbard is foolish.

Edit: The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged are also placed in the category "Education & Reference", so what's you point?
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Btw, you always say I shouldn't criticize Catholicism and the Bible like I do before I read the Bible and lived like a Catholic. Why don't you apply that logic to yourself and start reading Rand before you criticize it?

Edit: I agree with the third cartoon :-)
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I'm just saying the comparison with Hubbard is foolish.

I don't think so. Not only because of their science fiction books, just Google Hubbard and "the virtue of selfishness" and "the power of rationality" and you will find the similarities.

And lol, categorised as education :P

Oh, and you do know how Rand came to her ideas looking at her early life experiences, and her world was completely different as today, right? Early life - Ayn Rand (Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum)
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I don't think so. Not only because of their science fiction books, just Google Hubbard and "the virtue of selfishness" and "the power of rationality" and you will find the similarities.

Hubbard claims a truth about LIFE itself. Rand doesn't do that. Rand's books are just showing how she thinks humans should LIVE. Hubbard belongs between the Bible and the Koran.

And lol, categorised as education :P

It was you who started to use Amazon to categorize books.

Oh, and you do know how Rand came to her ideas looking at her early life experiences, and her world was completely different as today, right?

Yes, I knew. You think I read philosophical / political books without looking at the background of the writer?

The point is that the "facts" you take here are often propaganda.

information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.

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So what are my purposes for speading such a "propaganda". I want know it :-DD

and this is really funny. thx for it :-D

And still remains that I didn't do any loan for myself, but I'm paying for the wrong loans the germans bank had given in all europe for 12 years..
Those private banks gived them to greece, and EU (so every taxpayer in euro area) payed and will continue to pay.

So, nobody force you take a loan but Germany controls Italy so they can force Italy to take their loans. Italy is occupied by Germany, I just didnt watch that information in news. And I also hope that there is democracy in Italy, so your nation is doing what your people want. But I was wrong. If Italy is a slave protectorate of Germany, you dont have right to blame them, you had to listen and do it ! :-DD

and your prime-minister Berlusconi is criminal and if I have good information people still vote him, love him but you will blame Germany :-DDD

thx for this, you really enjoy me :-)

What advantage take euro to us?
NONE.

a lot, for business, tourism, people. Euro is not a bad idea, bad idea is that EU allow some countries abusing EURo and cheating it. This is not mistake of our currency, this is mistake of some countries.

:-DD El pupe, you had to post this for Levitate rather :-D

Levitate, this is for, you had to love name of this article, webpage :-D...social europe :-D
http://www.social-europe.eu/2011/12/following-germanys-lead-to-economic-disaster/

So what are my purposes for speading such a "propaganda". I want know it :-DD

no, you only believe and report them.

So, nobody force you take a loan but Germany controls Italy so they can force Italy to take their loans.

that is quite stupid. money goes where interest rates are higher.

And I also hope that there is democracy in Italy, so your nation is doing what your people want

well that's plain false.


and your prime-minister Berlusconi is criminal and if I have good information people still vote him, love him but you will blame Germany :-DD

and still he was the little problem we had.
the worst was those serious euro-responsible SOCIALIST parties of the left. That bring us to euro zone without any denfense.

thx for this, you really enjoy me :-)

I sit by a river waiting the time you all must accept the truth.
But you better start begging where to save your money before they cut them.

a lot, for business, tourism, people. Euro is not a bad idea, bad idea is that EU allow some countries abusing EURo and cheating it. This is not mistake of our currency, this is mistake of some countries.

No euro advantage for Italy man.
We had worst performances in every direction.
not business, we are invaded by foregin money we didn't need (italy is the country with the best people saving rate of EU) and that killed our competitivity increasing our inflation
not tourism, (why the hell having the same currency of other country helps in tourism, on the contrary it helps countries outside...)
not people (only stupid have problem doing money exchange!)

anyway, you don't read and don't listen,
you saw only the word "socialist" in the link I posted, so you are still at '800 ideas and ideologies.
No time to convince people that doesn't listen.

I think both should be between those 2 examples you gave. And looking at how fanatic you are about this subject, it is between both 2 examples.

And yes I showed it are science fiction books, as that's what they are. I don't know which idiot place them in an educational category. If that's the right category, millions of (sci-fi/fantasy) books can be educational that aren't categorized that way right now because they discribe some fictional society.

And I don't know if you you read that. If you did and never thought of what world she grow up in and what world we grow up in today and what made her think like she did, well, maybe you should also start to read some books about psychology to know what effects early experiences have on human behaviours and ideas (like poverty, near-starvation and war), also the crazy behaviours and ideas when they get older.

And yes I showed it are science fiction books, as that's what they are.

So every political and/or philosophical book is science fiction? You can disagree with Rand's principles, but they are a valid theory (objectivism). Just like socialism, conservatism or progressivism.

The fact that you keep insisting on putting The Fountainhead (have you even heard about that one?) or Atlas Shrugged in Sci-Fi/Fantasy, just shows you have no idea what these books are about. It's not like the Bible or the Koran making claims on the history of the world and something supernatural.

maybe you should also start to read some books about psychology to know what effects early experiences have on human behaviours and ideas

So? Because somebody fled Russia after the October Revolution doesn't mean their theories are worth any less. Of course it influenced her life and her ideas.

also the crazy behaviours and ideas when they get older

She was in her late thirties when The Fountainhead was published.
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