Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

hahaha, yoy always add some prase auch like this

Because you make it seem like you actually can't read. I was replying to the Japanese market, not to the London attack.

1. I have no sacred book that claims any truth. Before you reply with "What about Rand?", I must inform you that I don't fully agree with Rand's beliefs.
2. I don't believe installing libertarianism around the world will be enough to turn this planet into a paradise (so libertarianism is a condicio sine qua non, but libertarianism an sich is not sufficient to create that paradise). I believe libertarianism and individualism will make it possible for the people to turn this planet into a better place, just like you believe that collectivism will do the same thing.
3. How is my belief in a political system (libertarianism) any different from your belief in a political system?

Our view is that the strategy that offers the best chance of saving the European Union, the most valuable achievement of European integration, is a controlled segmentation of the Eurozone via a jointly agreed exit of the most competitive countries. The euro may then remain – for some time – the common currency of less competitive countries. It would ultimately mean a return to the national currencies or to different currencies serving groups of homogeneous countries. This solution would be an expression of European solidarity.

:') So you force out (okay, jointly agreed, but still) the countries that did rather well because ... well, they did rather well.

Although I agree that this is a better solution than installing a fiscal union now.

But then again, I strongly disagree with this:

European Solidarity would be additionally supported by agreeing on a new European currency coordination system aimed at preventing currency wars as well as excessive currency fluctuations between European countries.

More or less having fixed exchange rates undermines the solution. Having fixed exchange rates de facto means the continuation of a single currency area. (Unless you apply continuous devaluations, but then you don't really have fixed exchange rates and currency wars would remain possible.)
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So you force out (okay, jointly agreed, but still) the countries that did rather well because ... well, they did rather well.

force? (who can force a country out?)
did well? (what the hell "well" means? Germany de-industrializated us... do they did "well"??? It seems me that you confuse the lower public debt or the GDP growt with some sort of "well" I really can't understand!)



More or less having fixed exchange rates undermines the solution.

I agree.
If someone want to do an European union, must do it politically, fiscally, etc etc, only after we can talk about monetary union.

force? (who can force a country out?)

It's an expression.

did well? (what the hell "well" means? Germany de-industrializated us... do they did "well"??? It seems me that you confuse the lower public debt or the GDP growt with some sort of "well" I really can't understand!)

Germany deindustrialized Italy? Please, tell me how.

And "doing well" means staying rather competitive (in relative terms of course) and having better public finances than Southern Europe.

Germany deindustrialized Italy? Please, tell me how.

no. I wont.

And "doing well" means staying rather competitive (in relative terms of course) and having better public finances than Southern Europe.

I suspected it.
Being competitive in term of prices I guess..
and having better public finances using southern public debt money to repay northern banks wrong investments..

no. I wont.

There is a difference between "I won't" and "I can't".

Being competitive in term of prices I guess..

Quality and prices, that's what being competitive is all about.

and having better public finances using southern public debt money to repay northern banks wrong investments..

Seriously, in what kind of world do you live? Are you saying here that the German government (and the Dutch, Danish, ...) takes the money you pay for your public debt to repay the banks for wrong investments? (A serious question just to be clear.)
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There is a difference between "I won't" and "I can't".

explained a lot of times.

Quality and prices, that's what being competitive is all about.

whan you make productivity on quality or in prodution tech you are creating value,
when you make productivity on prices you only change the distribution..

Seriously, in what kind of world do you live? Are you saying here that the German government (and the Dutch, Danish, ...) takes the money you pay for your public debt to repay the banks for wrong investments? (A serious question just to be clear.)

well...
please, study a little bit what happened the last 5 years in Europe, than we can talk about. But please do it!
Start for example on Spanish public debt growt. What boosted it?

by the way:
prices productivity!

Unfortunately I have it in german or reported in Italian..

explained a lot of times.

You might have made some randoms claims, but explained? No, you didn't.

whan you make productivity on quality or in prodution tech you are creating value,
when you make productivity on prices you only change the distribution..

Productivity means that you do more with the same money (or you do the same for less money). It's efficiency. A higher productivity means your costs go down and ergo, you become more competitive. Basic economics. I don't see what's wrong with that.

well...
please, study a little bit what happened the last 5 years in Europe, than we can talk about. But please do it!
Start for example on Spanish public debt growt. What boosted it?

For once, can you just answer my question? Please? Are you serious if you claim that the German government (mind the difference between the German government and the German banks!) receives money from countries paying of their (I cannot stress this word enough) debt to give it to German banks who misinvested?

you don't read.
When you read you do it only to find arguments for your religion.


NB: I never write:
that the German government (mind the difference between the German government and the German banks!) receives money from countries paying of their (I cannot stress this word enough) debt to give it to German banks who misinvested?

..obvioulsy.

just let me be. have a good day.

3. How is my belief in a political system (libertarianism) any different from your belief in a political system?

bhecause i dont have any belif. I see the wold, i see some countries in wich life is better and some in wich it isnt, so i know ( is not a belif) that the best system for humans, is a system where the power has control-mechanisms so corruption is lower

i dont think communism works. Why? because seeing what has happened in countries wich applied that ideology

I know democracy with controll of power by independent people, making an organism to controll power, freedon of market ( like you have the ability to make chairs, you can make a company even if that company dosent belong to state)+ some activitys do by the state and also from private if anyone wants, but the state in ( medicine, education, making roads)+ having individual rights


why mine is not a belif? because i just see which system is less bad for regular people, is not like: "i belive etc" but : "i see etc"

I believe libertarianism and individualism will make it possible for the people to turn this planet into a better place, just like you believe that collectivism will do the same thing.

about this, you are into a mistake. I dont belive collectivism makes the world better

as a told you on previous post, i dont believe, i see and i think basing my thinking in the facts i see

P.e.: i dont think collectivism works better for making computers
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NB: I never write:
that the German government (mind the difference between the German government and the German banks!) receives money from countries paying of their (I cannot stress this word enough) debt to give it to German banks who misinvested?

Then learn proper English:

ME: And "doing well" means staying rather competitive (in relative terms of course) and having better public finances than Southern Europe.

YOU: I suspected it.
Being competitive in term of prices I guess..
and having better public finances using southern public debt money to repay northern banks wrong investments..

Ergo, you did say that.

just let me be. have a good day.

I will, the moment you stop spreading nonsense.
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First of all, nice that you agree on 1) and 2) (as you don't reply to those parts).

bhecause i dont have any belif. I see the wold, i see some countries in wich life is better and some in wich it isnt, so i know ( is not a belif) that the best system for humans, is a system where the power has control-mechanisms so corruption is lower

So you KNOW you are right and everyone who claims differently is a believer? That is plain arrogance. Is there an objective way to compare different political systems with each other? If there is, please enlighten me.

I believe in libertarianism just like you believe in government-run control mechanisms. What's the difference?

i dont think communism works. Why? because seeing what has happened in countries wich applied that ideology

Exactly. Also because communism ignores the shortages of the human race.

I know democracy with controll of power by independent people, making an organism to controll power, freedon of market ( like you have the ability to make chairs, you can make a company even if that company dosent belong to state)+ some activitys do by the state and also from private if anyone wants, but the state in ( medicine, education, making roads)+ having individual rights

I know that too, Belgium is such a 'democracy'. Because I know what it is and what the results of such a 'democracy' are (less freedom, bigger state), I reject such a 'democracy'.

why mine is not a belif? because i just see which system is less bad for regular people, is not like: "i belive etc" but : "i see etc"

I see that I - and with me, a lot of people - am happier with freedom than I am with the lack of freedom (force). That is why I prefer a libertarian state. That is why I reject your 'democracy'.

about this, you are into a mistake. I dont belive collectivism makes the world better

Then why do you support a serious amount of collectivism in our society? If you don't think it makes the world better, why support it?

i dont think collectivism works better for making computers

I agree. I also think collectivism doesn't work better for education or health insurance. And because of that I am a believer and you're not? :')

It's funny how often people talk about leaving the euro as some kind of "punishment", as if being part of the Eurozone had some particular value beyond its economic convenience.
Germany leaving the euro or Germany kicking everyone else out if the euro is basically the same thing, the only difference is that one case may be easier to implement than the other one from a purely practical/administrative perspective.

In any case, it doesn't seem like a great idea to me. Weaker euro+differentiated inflation is more or less the same, but without depending on

European Solidarity would be additionally supported by agreeing on a new European currency coordination system aimed at preventing currency wars as well as excessive currency fluctuations between European countries

which sounds more like wishful thinking than an actual plan. At best, if fully successful, it would be the same we have now (or perhaps what we have now + slightly different ECB behavior).