Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

We have to learn from the past, show me one time it worked in Muslim country, on the other hand I can show you much more times where going for democracy bought a worse regime.

I can't. I have admitted democracy has failed in Middle-East. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't help them if they want democracy. Yes I know I've said this a lot, but you ask the same every time.

And I say we only have to install democracy if they want that, so not "no matter if they want or not".

does anybody declared referendum in Libya with the only simple question: "Do you wish president Ghaddaffi end his office"? Nobody, so we don´t know whole nation´s opinion and don´t have a right to act!!!

and about videos from US propaganda...I´ll take some archive videos from Iraqi war and will say, see bad dictator is killing his own nation...whoa lets give him a lesson...there is not our oil interest behind...we need to find some neutral name for this invasion (don´t make the same mistake like in Operation Iraqi Liberty)

The percentage is very close to it.
I welcome the fact you think for your self, but since the facts you get are "fixed" so you will have to get to the same conclusion as they did its hard to think for your self.
Even if we believe our media, now what? dont we have to think about tomorrow as well?

Replacing Qadaffi with another dictator or worse, EU and USA will place a nice puppet who will let them control oil interest.

You really think the people will stay calm for a long time if nothing change or changes against their will? Many people died, and more are still ready to die. But I also really don't know how this could be solved. After this war the tribes has to come to a sollution, that won't be easy at all probably. Some people are forced to live together, that's not always to easy (you know).
Maybe new borders are needed, you never know (and not that strange as it is now).

does anybody declared referendum in Libya with the only simple question: "Do you wish president Ghaddaffi end his office"? Nobody, so we don´t know whole nation´s opinion and don´t have a right to act!!!

That is a circular reasoning. Since Gadaffi is a dictator he won't allow such a referendum to happen.

So, we sent planes ourselves to stop those planes of Khadaffi. Of course, for the security of our own planes, we have to attack the installations of Khadaffi who want to shoot our planes down ...

what about simple tanks, barracks or just kaddafi ground army hunting rebels ?
(I am sure you must saw photos of destroyed such a targets)
How can this part of army hurt aircraft ?

I tell you a secret:

DEMOCRACY HAD FAILED IN A WHOLE THE WORLD, why? because humankind is not prepared for it´s main principles, so we doesn´t deserve it!


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so opinion of people set up western countries, right :-D ?

The Internet on Syria went down.
Two years ago forces in Iran murdered civilians trying to demonstrate, How come you dont see a strike there?
How come our media doesnt call and bring voices which shows how bad the situation is?

does anybody declared referendum in Libya with the only simple question: "Do you wish president Ghaddaffi end his office"? Nobody, so we don´t know whole nation´s opinion and don´t have a right to act!!!

Oh yeah, Khadaffi would organize a referendum or elections for sure ... Come on, there haven't been elections in Libya for 30 years.

and about videos from US propaganda...I´ll take some archive videos from Iraqi war and will say, see bad dictator is killing his own nation...whoa lets give him a lesson...there is not our oil interest behind...we need to find some neutral name for this invasion (don´t make the same mistake like in Operation Iraqi Liberty)

Iraq and Libya aren't comparable. Iraq was a US mission, Libya is a UN mission. Big difference. Libyan mission is done with almost all western countries, Iraq was mainly US and UK. And I'm not gonna defend Gulf War, I was and am against it.

OK, then OSN had to send there some military units to provide civil rights for free elections...

Because Iran doesn't let our media in ...

And then you had an even more severe war (with UN ground troops and air planes) ...

OSN/UNO ...

Libya doesnt let our media as well...

so opinion of people set up western countries, right :-D ?

No, opinion of Eastern Europeans upset me. This is why I was against expansion of EU to the east; you have a different point of view.