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Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

2013-06-26 00:34:42
Its strange that they hadnt changed it
http://www.youtube.com/v/s8TLI8bZGz8

The Czech politican was member of Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia. Hes well known for financial problems, he owe about 250k euros despite high salary. He would be excellent minister of finances:)))
2013-06-26 10:30:32
Selling bonds for lowered interest cos efsf and eu help is begging for saving your ass.

It isnt, Eu dosent want a big country woth the euro falling in bankrupcy, it also would prejudice the euro zone..



The fact that it is made by difficult financial tools which you can not understand is your mistake and mistake of your education system.


difficult financial tools? buying bonds is difficult? i said but is just true: you are a waste
2013-06-26 10:31:56
And don't be rude cos I can ask EU to cancel efsf activities and you will go to bankrupcy in half of year :) !!!

you can ask...sure, do it , come one, before your pills start to make effect. Ask your friends Nostradamus and Superman, do it, come on : )
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Selling bonds for lowered interest cos efsf and eu help is begging for saving your ass.

It isnt, Eu dosent want a big country woth the euro falling in bankrupcy, it also would prejudice the euro zone..


You're (and I mean the both of you) discussing only about words, not about content. The content is that without the help from EU (lower interest rates), some countries could not afford to refinance their debt. Those countries should at the very least show some respect for the countries that are helping them. Like the Greeks calling Merkel Hitler. That's spitting in the hand that's feeding you. The feeding will stop if they continue to do so.
2013-06-26 11:20:23
The Czech politican was member of Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia. Hes well known for financial problems, he owe about 250k euros despite high salary. He would be excellent minister of finances:)))

Leftists tend to have difficulties with keeping the budget in balance.
2013-06-26 12:00:59
The content is that without the help from EU (lower interest rates), some countries could not afford to refinance their debt.

as Japan, China, USA etc are aunable to do..
ups, they are able..

It looks like that the country that doesn't lose their monetary soverignity don't have this big problems with debt.
So again, EURO is the problem. And I will not show any respect versus countries that are enslaving with a currency an entire continent.

Like the Greeks calling Merkel Hitler. That's spitting in the hand that's feeding you.

That is quite stupid.
Greeks should do ANYTHING IT NEED to get out soon from Merkel's attentions. If they want to survive.
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2013-06-26 12:10:39
It looks like that the country that doesn't lose their monetary soverignity don't have this big problems with debt.

Well, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, ... They all have a big debt. They all have lost their monetary sovereignty. And yet, they are not that deep into trouble like Italy, Spain, Portugal or Greece. Guess why.

You can only skip to your conclusions if you remove the facts. You have an idea ("Euro is bad") and you suffer from confirmation bias.

And I will not show any respect versus countries that are enslaving with a currency an entire continent.

Arbeit macht frei.

Greeks should do ANYTHING IT NEED to get out soon from Merkel's attentions. If they want to survive.

The Greek state should stop spending money they don't have. If the state wants to survive.
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2013-06-26 12:21:59
And yet, they are not that deep into trouble like Italy, Spain, Portugal or Greece. Guess why.

because they have not a PRIVATE economical crisis running.


You can only skip to your conclusions if you remove the facts.

LOL, I'm the only taking fatcs here. did you even read the docs I posted?

For the rest. I simply can't believe someone that study economics can say that:
The Greek state should stop spending money they don't have. If the state wants to survive.
this is what an housewife that inform herself in tv can think..
2013-06-26 12:30:28
because they have not a PRIVATE economical crisis running.

Wrong guess. Guess again.

For the rest. I simply can't believe someone that study economics can say that:

Well, I can believe that someone who didn't study economics would say what you're saying :-)
The content is that without the help from EU (lower interest rates), some countries could not afford to refinance their debt. Those countries should at the very least show some respect for the countries that are helping them. Like the Greeks calling Merkel Hitler. That's spitting in the hand that's feeding you. The feeding will stop if they continue to do so.

You know what? without that "help" ( wich is just a buyment of bonds ) , the euro as coin would be in trouybles, so you are not helping us, you are helping yourselves for not to fuck the eurozone. I dont mind about euro, you want respect ?

this is strange...do you want respect? I want the sun to be green...isnt it the game to say things without any sense? oh wait..

you say respecto because the greeks call angela hitler? Ok, maybe the UE shouldnt act as the greek goverment because its a matter of the greeks, not theirs.

And yeah, the poor greeks received your poissoned help ( not only buying bonds), so now the EU acts as if they were the greek goverment..and they are not

And again, that poissoned rescue , that Portugal and Greece has received..[u]we dont want it[/u

We dont want it because is not a real help but a destroyment of countries, see Greece before the rescue and now..

And dont act as Nostyradamus, like "if they werent received the help , they would be worse" because its not how economics works.. you shuld show real content to support your arguments

You're (and I mean the both of you) discussing only about words, not about content.

No, he belives that selling bonds is to beg, and that Slovakia is giving money for free, so he shoudnt be allowed to be in that discussion. Also, he criticazes heavily the inflation, but if inflation comes because euro then its fine. is a ridiculous lack of logic
Look, I'm not a big defender of this Euro. Not at all. I've been saying for a long time that the best solution for Greece is to get out of the Eurozone.

I just can't stand people who say that the Northern European countries should not interfere with the Southern European policies as "that's a matter of the Greeks". If we're paying for it (and yes, we also do it to save our own asses, I'm not even denying that...), it's pretty logical we want to have a say in it.

You don't want the help? Well, then find a democratic majority in your country, elect a government that will refuse the help. You're both big fans of democracy, so you have to accept the outcome of the democratic elections. And that outcome is that the majority in your countries wants the help.
You don't want the help? Well, then find a democratic majority in your country, elect a government that will refuse the help.

Neither of two big parties in Spain want the help, so it has happened already, whats the matter? why you dont understund it? we havent ask for any rescue

the best solution for Greece is to get out of the Eurozone.


right


I just can't stand people who say that the Northern European countries should not interfere with the Southern European policies as "that's a matter of the Greeks". If we're paying for it (and yes, we also do it to save our own asses, I'm not even denying that...), it's pretty logical we want to have a say in it.

No, even if you lend money to them oyu are not the greek goverment. No one force you to lend money as a rescue plan to them, isnt it?
Neither of two big parties in Spain want the help, so it has happened already, whats the matter? why you dont understund it? we havent ask for any rescue

If both the PP and the PSOE don't want the help, why don't you get out of the Eurozone? Vote for it, and make it happen. What are you waiting for?

No, even if you lend money to them oyu are not the greek goverment. No one force you to lend money as a rescue plan to them, isnt it?

Are you familiar with the concept of moral hazard?
If both the PP and the PSOE don't want the help, why don't you get out of the Eurozone? Vote for it, and make it happen. What are you waiting for?


Well, denying any kind of official help ( and again for the most retarded as rumpil: buying bonds is not the only kind of "help" Portugal and Greece are receiving) is not oppoosite to be in the euro zone

Are you familiar with the concept of moral hazard?

Nope, i am not, what is moral hazard? : )

Anyway, fo me is inmoral to lend money to anyone and then act as its owner : )
Well, denying any kind of official help ( and again for the most retarded as rumpil: buying bonds is not the only kind of "help" Portugal and Greece are receiving) is not oppoosite to be in the euro zone

Well, de facto it is. Because of the moral hazard. If we don't 'help' the Greek, the Greek state will go broke. That is for sure. In that case, we all suffer (all countries within the Eurozone). So either you accept the 'help', or you get out of the Eurozone. It's your call to make, but please, chose. It's our way or the highway.
You are not helping us and we are not in bankrupcy, is what i am arguing with rumpil, who thinks that buying bonds is the same as the so called rescue

So it is happening now, we havent ask for any rescue, Italy neither..so