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simply, because he doesn't care about the survival of the majority of people.
he simpy believes the dog eat dog rule.
he simpy believes the dog eat dog rule.
I considered libertarians as some naive idealists having faith in good nature of man, but it now seem more as elitist philosophy.
If you believe that majority of people are idiots, then it also mean that majority of people cant decide for themselves and socialist/collectivist help is needed for survival of majority of people.
It's not because one is a moron that one cannot survive on its own. One does not need to have general knowledge to survive.
It's not because one is a moron that one cannot survive on its own. One does not need to have general knowledge to survive.
You called me a racist.
i have never called you racist. But of course, if you mean all belgiums are better workers than all spanish, thats a racist statement, because is based on race
Well, about weber, and again, if weber has some statistics showing that belgiums work harder than spanish show it. If not, you can name all the authors you want, and t dosent mind nothing
i have never called you racist. But of course, if you mean all belgiums are better workers than all spanish, thats a racist statement, because is based on race
Well, about weber, and again, if weber has some statistics showing that belgiums work harder than spanish show it. If not, you can name all the authors you want, and t dosent mind nothing
Well, about weber, and again, if weber has some statistics showing that belgiums work harder than spanish show it.
See before, I'm tired of repeating myself.
See before, I'm tired of repeating myself.
See before, I'm tired of repeating myself.
Looking at this thread, you're obviously not :D
Looking at this thread, you're obviously not :D
Unbelievable propaganda.
Hernando de Soto
LOL.
Another wellpayed ideologist of libertarian capitalism, that forget that the ask for freedom is democracy.
In fact there are no coutnry where you can say someone is free (whatever it means, even in economical sense) without having some sort of democracy.
Anyway, you can't be free in trade unless you have some rights (as property and individual initiative etc), but those rights only come with democracy. In fact every other regime can give and take away this rights witouth the people can say a word.
So the Arab call is for DEMOCRACY first, the rest maybe..
the point we miss is that Egypt cannot be called democratic for voting.
Democracy is not (only) to be called to vote. It need controls, culture, attitude etc.
the failure of the first democratic vote in Egypt is a demonstration of the lack of pre -requirements needed in a democracy. Not anything else.
(by the way: it's interesting to know that Egyptian army takes annually 1.3 to 1.6 Billion dollars from USA gov., directly, without passing by egyptian gov...)
Hernando de Soto
LOL.
Another wellpayed ideologist of libertarian capitalism, that forget that the ask for freedom is democracy.
In fact there are no coutnry where you can say someone is free (whatever it means, even in economical sense) without having some sort of democracy.
Anyway, you can't be free in trade unless you have some rights (as property and individual initiative etc), but those rights only come with democracy. In fact every other regime can give and take away this rights witouth the people can say a word.
So the Arab call is for DEMOCRACY first, the rest maybe..
the point we miss is that Egypt cannot be called democratic for voting.
Democracy is not (only) to be called to vote. It need controls, culture, attitude etc.
the failure of the first democratic vote in Egypt is a demonstration of the lack of pre -requirements needed in a democracy. Not anything else.
(by the way: it's interesting to know that Egyptian army takes annually 1.3 to 1.6 Billion dollars from USA gov., directly, without passing by egyptian gov...)
Anyway, you can't be free in trade unless you have some rights (as property and individual initiative etc), but those rights only come with democracy. In fact every other regime can give and take away this rights witouth the people can say a word.
Every governemnt can take away rights from individuals. Democracy is just a way to vote whose rights should be taken away. It doesn't change the fact that they are taken away (from individuals, the smallest minority of the population). In a libertarian society, nobody's rights are taken away.
Democracy is not (only) to be called to vote. It need controls, culture, attitude etc.
That's what the article says.
the failure of the first democratic vote in Egypt is a demonstration of the lack of pre -requirements needed in a democracy.
And capitalism is the way to fulfill those requirements. Again, that's what the article says.
by the way: it's interesting to know that Egyptian army takes annually 1.3 to 1.6 Billion dollars from USA gov., directly, without passing by egyptian gov...
The American foreign policy doesn't pass the laugh test like Ron Paul said.
Every governemnt can take away rights from individuals. Democracy is just a way to vote whose rights should be taken away. It doesn't change the fact that they are taken away (from individuals, the smallest minority of the population). In a libertarian society, nobody's rights are taken away.
Democracy is not (only) to be called to vote. It need controls, culture, attitude etc.
That's what the article says.
the failure of the first democratic vote in Egypt is a demonstration of the lack of pre -requirements needed in a democracy.
And capitalism is the way to fulfill those requirements. Again, that's what the article says.
by the way: it's interesting to know that Egyptian army takes annually 1.3 to 1.6 Billion dollars from USA gov., directly, without passing by egyptian gov...
The American foreign policy doesn't pass the laugh test like Ron Paul said.
Every governemnt can take away rights from individuals. Democracy is just a way to vote whose rights should be taken away.
LOL, you really don't know what democracy is.
that's not a system where voting can change everything.
And capitalism is the way to fulfill those requirements
no , capitalism is one possible economic system that democray allow.
LOL, you really don't know what democracy is.
that's not a system where voting can change everything.
And capitalism is the way to fulfill those requirements
no , capitalism is one possible economic system that democray allow.
that's not a system where voting can change everything.
No, but it can take away rights (and it does). A government that can give you everything you need is a government that can take everything you have away.
no , capitalism is one possible economic system that democray allow.
Meaningless sentence. But tell me, how should Egypt fulfill those requirements (for democracy).
No, but it can take away rights (and it does). A government that can give you everything you need is a government that can take everything you have away.
no , capitalism is one possible economic system that democray allow.
Meaningless sentence. But tell me, how should Egypt fulfill those requirements (for democracy).
See before, I'm tired of repeating myself.
Nothing before, you just showed what ethic work is according to weber, but its nothing about weber´s opinion about spanish or belgians
If you mean that belgian are more productive ( number fo good made/ number of hours worked), you may be rigth , but thats just one of weber´s ethic work variables ( as you said there are 4-5 variables you named)
BTW, i bet the productivity of spanish workers is higher than the slovaks workers, even the rumpil´s brothers or nephews has other opinion
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Nothing before, you just showed what ethic work is according to weber, but its nothing about weber´s opinion about spanish or belgians
If you mean that belgian are more productive ( number fo good made/ number of hours worked), you may be rigth , but thats just one of weber´s ethic work variables ( as you said there are 4-5 variables you named)
BTW, i bet the productivity of spanish workers is higher than the slovaks workers, even the rumpil´s brothers or nephews has other opinion
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If you mean that belgian are more productive ( number fo good made/ number of hours worked), you may be rigth , but thats just one of weber´s ethic work variables ( as you said there are 4-5 variables you named)
Well, I never said that the Belgians work harder than the Spaniards, did I? I never said the Spaniards are lazy. I just said there's a difference in work ethic, and like you finally seem to understand, productivity is a part of that.
i bet the productivity of spanish workers is higher than the slovaks workers, even the rumpil´s brothers or nephews has other opinion
You're right (but productivity also doesn't say how 'lazy' workers are in a country!).
Eurostat (2012, EU-average = 100):
Luxembourg : 167,8 - Malta : 92,5
Ireland : 142,4 - Greece : 91,7
Belgium : 127,4 - Slovakia : 81,1
Austria : 117,0 - Croatia : 80,2
Sweden : 116,0 - Slovenia : 79,4
France : 115,1 - Portugal : 75,2
Denmark : 111,4 - Poland : 72,2
Spain : 111,2 - Czech Republic : 72,0
Netherlands : 109,1 - Lithuania : 71,8
Finland : 108,8 - Hungary : 70,4
Italy : 107,0 - Estonia : 67,1
Germany : 105,3 - Latvia : 63,4
United Kingdom : 104,8 - Romania : 50,1
Cyprus : 92,8 - Bulgaria : 46,4
Well, I never said that the Belgians work harder than the Spaniards, did I? I never said the Spaniards are lazy. I just said there's a difference in work ethic, and like you finally seem to understand, productivity is a part of that.
i bet the productivity of spanish workers is higher than the slovaks workers, even the rumpil´s brothers or nephews has other opinion
You're right (but productivity also doesn't say how 'lazy' workers are in a country!).
Eurostat (2012, EU-average = 100):
Luxembourg : 167,8 - Malta : 92,5
Ireland : 142,4 - Greece : 91,7
Belgium : 127,4 - Slovakia : 81,1
Austria : 117,0 - Croatia : 80,2
Sweden : 116,0 - Slovenia : 79,4
France : 115,1 - Portugal : 75,2
Denmark : 111,4 - Poland : 72,2
Spain : 111,2 - Czech Republic : 72,0
Netherlands : 109,1 - Lithuania : 71,8
Finland : 108,8 - Hungary : 70,4
Italy : 107,0 - Estonia : 67,1
Germany : 105,3 - Latvia : 63,4
United Kingdom : 104,8 - Romania : 50,1
Cyprus : 92,8 - Bulgaria : 46,4
You're right (but productivity also doesn't say how 'lazy' workers are in a country!).
This is exactly what i am saying : )
You can say that belgians has better productivity than spanish, because it can be proven. But you cant say we are more lazy, as it cant be proven so it would be just an opinion
and saying slovaks are paying the bills from Italy and Spain, is having no idea of how capitalist economy works ( the bonds stuff, the rescue etc).
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This is exactly what i am saying : )
You can say that belgians has better productivity than spanish, because it can be proven. But you cant say we are more lazy, as it cant be proven so it would be just an opinion
and saying slovaks are paying the bills from Italy and Spain, is having no idea of how capitalist economy works ( the bonds stuff, the rescue etc).
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I just said there's a difference in work ethic, and like you finally seem to understand, productivity is a part of that.
But, according to the author you named, ethic work has many variables, and productivity is just one of them , so
But, according to the author you named, ethic work has many variables, and productivity is just one of them , so
But tell me, how should Egypt fulfill those requirements (for democracy).
with time and a democratization process.
Whoever claim that is possible to "turn on" democracy by making an election is wrong.
BTW: democracy is still un-applied in europe and america, so we have to think that democracy is NOT what we use to think it is. This long time process is running in the entire planet, somwhere is a young process, somewhere il a centuries-long process.
with time and a democratization process.
Whoever claim that is possible to "turn on" democracy by making an election is wrong.
BTW: democracy is still un-applied in europe and america, so we have to think that democracy is NOT what we use to think it is. This long time process is running in the entire planet, somwhere is a young process, somewhere il a centuries-long process.