Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

1. first, I am suprised that greeks have submarines :-D.

i am not surprised that you are surprised. Probably you have a nephew who was once in Greece, and another who saw a submarine on TV once. So, here it comes rumpil, the expert in submarines and Greece

Who do you think you are? Someone bans this guy from these thread

I suggest you to open a thread , called: "Rumpil facts. My nephew´s investigations"

So people will be able to discuss here seriously

Viva Grecia

So, why dont you tell us what your country has given to the world? Maybe we can improve a little, studying that big facts everyone knows about your country..


Its ridiculous. i can understund a 1.90 cm guy telling me "you are short". But a 1.40 cm dwarf, telling me how short i am, is just ridiculous.

ou seem to make no distinction between the sovereignty of the Italian state and the Italian economy. The Italian state does not own the Italian economy,and therefore, 'themselves' is totally misused.

no one should say, like the FMI ( aka know as the international organization that always fall in his advices to states) oe the EU, where Italy should cut their expenses, its italian sovereignity


So, any company can buy any other company wich capital is divided in actions. Just coming to the stock exchange and buying 51% of actions. But is italian state the one who decides wich public companies to go to the stock exchange and wich ones to remain italian state own

So, can a company buy a ( stock exchange actions) of an italian company? yes, but before was the italian state the one who decided to sell this comnpany

can anyone tell the italian gov where to cut their expenses? No, not even rumpil&nephews can do this

no one should say, like the FMI ( aka know as the international organization that always fall in his advices to states) oe the EU, where Italy should cut their expenses, its italian sovereignity

The IMF has the right to advise. Everyone can give advise. The IMF can lend money depending how countries follow that advise. Why should that be forbidden? It's a country's choice to 1) become a member of the IMF or not and 2) follow IMF's advise or not.

But is italian state the one who decides wich public companies to go to the stock exchange and wich ones to remain italian state own

Of course. But the IMF can give advise, see above.

can anyone tell the italian gov where to cut their expenses? No, not even rumpil&nephews can do this

Sure they can. Everyone can tell how Italy should cut their budget. But only the Italian state can make the real choice, and so, ultimately, they are also responsible for that choice, not the IMF or Rumpil's nephew.

futur greek submarines:

what i meant, is that :

1) advices FMI dose, never works

2) anyone cant force Italy to do X cut or Y cut, only italian gov can do so.

So, if the Eu is just giving advices..thats for free. But the EU is acting as a goverment when no one in italy has voted the Comission members.

Is different to give an advice than to force to do anything. And the Comission is forcing Greece and Portugal, not giving just advices

are they greeks or are they valoons?

do you think this is funny?

They force them with money. Should they just give the money for smile and kisses? They want guarantees.

guarantee cant be telling any goverment where exactly to cut, ist a job for the goverment of any countru, not for the EU or the comisssion

its like, anyone forced them to led that money. Its a trap. in the past Greece could made more drachmas, now for making more "drachmas" they should accept a lend, its a trap

Europe according to Southern Europe:

my favourite polandball comic ever:

use wiki :-)

this year our scientists make a nice invention. Plastic package which will auto-decomposit in nature. And Slovak invention is that we are able made/produce such a plastic at almost same price as "not-decomposit" plastic. The core of invention is that we can produce it and not raise costs significantly. You know... none good invention will be used if it is too expensive :-)




but yes...this will jus help to world nature, it is not good for wars and submarines. But as I studied, greeks have still big expenditures (2,3%/gdp) for army. (so all europe is financing greece army, it is shame :-( ) And people dont have jobs :-(


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low cost submarines... :-DDD LOL.
can you give me more specifications ? speed, armor, turret and so :-D ?

army buying cost is a bribe paid to producer countries... (sometimes it seem to me that someone live into a fairy world!!!)

anyway what is really funny is to confuse Greek situation with italian situation
Or to confuse Spain with portugal

Every country has a different starting situation. And different strenght and resources..
if Greece has some fault in managing their public finances, this doesn't mean that spain has that problem too..
I can agree that a poor economy as the greek, hardly exporting something, can't afford some expenditure (private but also public), but this means nothing for Italy.
What really unite all this countries are the austherity politic imposed by EU (imposed, because of a mechanism called "excessive-deficit procedures "), and their real interest that is to get out from euro cage.

NB: Italy just got out from that procedure: link
I still think that's a shame to do procyclical choices in recession. Italy economics is sick BECAUSE OF this politics and euro currency. We don't have any other problem. How could we be compared with greece or portugal? (that doesn't mean that they deserve what Merkel are doing to them!!!)

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Italy economics is sick BECAUSE OF this politics and euro currency. We don't have any other problem. How could we be compared with greece or portugal?

1. so then every EU member had to have same problems, but not... so this argument is weak

2. just except huge debt :-DDD

3. all these countries are PIIGS... so I can compare them. EU had to help to all of them, at least by creation of EFSF which is very expensive toy of all of us :-(

so then every EU member had to have same problems, but not... so this argument is weak

the austherity is not imposed to every EU member, inform youself please.


2. just except huge debt :-DDD

huge debt? we don't have huge debt..
unless you are still talking about public debt, that will show you understand nothing.. as always..

ll these countries are PIIGS

do you know waht piigs means?
Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, Spain.
So ?

EU had to help to all of them

Italy didn't ask or received anything, we are a net contributor of EU.

at least by creation of EFSF which is very expensive toy of all of us

that shows you understand nothing.