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Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

you said its a triumph for liberalism, so you are supposed not to mindf about miserable wages, as you said you dont care about socioeconomics. So you saying "NO" now, is you denying your five minutes past words : P
See my edit.
2013-08-28 10:48:54
How on Earth can you make a conclusion of my stance on the wage issue if I didn't even talk about wages? Is this the Spanish way of discussion, or are you just retarded

Because you show wall mart ( a company that pays miserable wages) as a triumph of liberalism.

your way: are my words so hard to understand or are you just retarded? and again, you are not that smart you belive you are

You cant take a piece of the picture, and deny seeing the rest of it. I show you the full picture, even you dislike what you are seeing because the picture ( the reality, just info because you maybe lost already)..the picture dosent suit with your sacred book ( ultra liberalism economy from some author)


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2013-08-28 10:53:14
anyway we can leave it if you want, you say im retarded because i speak about wages when you werent, i say you are retarded because you only want to see the part of the picture that suit with your sacred book

back on topic--> USA - Syria, why telling the day of the attack before doing it? Are they so confident that Syria cant react even knowing the date? it seems so
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Because you show wall mart ( a company that pays miserable wages) as a triumph of liberalism.

No I didn't. You assumed that. Not for the first time, your assumption is wrong. I'm sick of your interpretations.

If you don't see the nuance between "it's good that Wal-Mart is giving homosexual employees the same rights as their heterosexual employees, as the American politics fail to give homosexuals the same rights as heterosexuals" and "Wall-Mart is a triumph of liberalism", then I feel sorry for you. It's not even nuance. There's a Grand Canyon between them.

And mind you, liberalism in the English language is not the same as the European interpretation of liberalism. When talking (well, trying to to be more precise) English, please use either classical liberalism or libertarianism to refer to what you consider liberalism.
i meant liberalism in the USA way, wich is the way you were using


When politics fail to offer equal rights, we still have the free market to solve it.


You said this. And i relate it with the miserable wages that Wall mart offers, because its true.

Like, giving rights to homosexuals is not enough. You know, any discussion is not about the part that gives you the reason. Is about the full picture. And the full pic shows that Wall Mart, that company who entriumphs liberalism ( your words), now is giving miserable wages to its workers.

if thats a triumph for liberalism, the limits werent high


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2013-08-28 11:03:12
is it too hard to admit: "liberalism ( or libertarianism if you prefer) is not perfect. Miserable wages are not fine, even if they accept homosexual couples"

So hard to admit there isnt any ideology wich is perfect?

This is why it is needed a mix of some ideologys in the real world, that thing wich ecoomic books try to describe
i meant liberalism in the USA way, wich is the way you were using

I never even used the word liberalism in this context. Jeez. Liberalism in the USA way is Obama and the left side of the American politics. They have nothing to with this (in fact, they are part of the failing politics I was talking about). Why would I say that their ideology is triumphing? That doesn't make sense at all.

Like, giving rights to homosexuals is not enough.

Yes. We should not be happy about this equal rights thing for homosexuals because "it's not enough".

And the full pic shows that Wall Mart, that company who entriumphs liberalism ( your words), now is giving miserable wages to its workers.

No, no, no. I never said Wall-Mart entriumphs (not even a real word) liberalism. Those are NOT my words.

I close this discussion now because someone on this forum is retarded. That person probably will add another conclusion to this, that is totally wrong, but apparently, that's the Spanish way of discussing. Cheers.
I close this discussion now because someone on this forum is retarded. That person probably will add another conclusion to this, that is totally wrong, but apparently, that's the Spanish way of discussing. Cheers.

strong facts


Now, i meant liberalism as the economic definition of liberalism. Maybe you didnt study it already at your school.

You said free market as the miracle ideology that gives rights? So you forget that the same company that you are refering pays miserable jobs. As you havent any good answer to this, you say im retarded. Fine LOL . Have a nice day at school :P cheers

To anybody; please dont argue with Levitate, we dont want him having a heart attack. Okay levitate, Wall mart shows with facts that your sacred book works. Thats what happens when you argue with a fanatic, this fanatic wont be happy if reality showsh facts against his sacred book , and it dosent mind if that sacred book is religious, or economic ( see the communists per example, or yourself) or whatever..fanatism is fanatism


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I rest my case.
good bye ^^
2013-08-28 11:31:07
When politics fail to offer equal rights, we still have the free market to solve it.

Wal-Mart to Extend Benefits to Same-Sex Partners


well.
A concession is not a right.
Wal-mart can take away it without any consequence.

A market mechanisms can't take the place of politics.
2013-08-28 11:36:04
A concession is not a right.
Wal-mart can take away it without any consequence.


So can the government with any of our rights.
2013-08-28 11:37:50
that's the motivation for being a democratic.
2013-08-28 11:39:13
Or to reject democracy because the government is not 'different'.
2013-08-28 11:52:53
Or to reject democracy because the government is not 'different'.

that's wrong, imo,
you can't reject something because you're not doing it work properly-
The same time you can't believe in something (market) because it works 1 time on 10.

You have to look at the structure.
in democracy you have a chance to get what you believe in.
in a market you should accept what he need and take.

But I'm sure You'll believe the magical wonders of market will solve everything, won't you?