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So your choice is to help those religious fanatics around then.
Congrats, stupidity times ten!
Congrats, stupidity times ten!
I don't help anybody, I just have a very low opinion about all of those. Israel itself supports religious fanatics, and is against peace.
What I said (to which you replied) was that it is wrong to hurt Israel by for example a ban of trading.
(One of Sun Tzus sayings is something like this: If you weaken the enemy of your enemy, you weaken your own position (which doesn't mean you have to help them though))
Israel isn't the best country ever (far from that), I agree on that. By law, all religions and all races are the same there though, so your apartheid comparison is not totally correct.
(One of Sun Tzus sayings is something like this: If you weaken the enemy of your enemy, you weaken your own position (which doesn't mean you have to help them though))
Israel isn't the best country ever (far from that), I agree on that. By law, all religions and all races are the same there though, so your apartheid comparison is not totally correct.
Eeuuh ... lol? You know that you have the freedom and possibility to search the internet, read books, etc, and check your opinions, right?
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Go to Lybia, UAE, Somalia, Iran, Palestine and so on, then search there for your freedom, but shut up here in the forum about all those nice countries.
What I say is, that I'm not so sure, if they're really enemies. Before the Lebanon war Hezbollah had a weakening support, and was at crysis. Then came the war. And it was not about precision strikes against terrorist leaders, instead there were carpet bombings, destruction of highways, transport interchanges, airports, and they shelled the civilians too, stating that there could be terrorist among them.
Why did they do that? It would've been a legit (of course not nice) strategy, if there would've been a full scale war. That could hamper a hostile army's capability to move and stage an attack or organize an effective defence. But there were no hostile army, and a terrorist group doesn't need advanced infrastructure to move. The Israeli attacks were selective by religious-ethnic territoties. They've mostly attacked Shiite territories, where Hezbollah had potential support.
So the results:
- Lebanon descended back to poverty
- the Shiites got enraged
- Hezbollah came out of the crysis, and there support was so high, like never before
Since then, I don't believe that Israel is really an enemy of our enemies. No way they thought that they could fight against a terrorist organization with carpet bombings and the destruction of infrastructure.
Also there are Palestinians who have citizenship, maybe they could vote and stuff (although they have a much lower representation in Kneset than 20%, as their official ratio). And what about those who has no citizenship, and those who have to live in refugee camps? That was their home before Israel occupied it, and now they are not allowed to go back.
Why did they do that? It would've been a legit (of course not nice) strategy, if there would've been a full scale war. That could hamper a hostile army's capability to move and stage an attack or organize an effective defence. But there were no hostile army, and a terrorist group doesn't need advanced infrastructure to move. The Israeli attacks were selective by religious-ethnic territoties. They've mostly attacked Shiite territories, where Hezbollah had potential support.
So the results:
- Lebanon descended back to poverty
- the Shiites got enraged
- Hezbollah came out of the crysis, and there support was so high, like never before
Since then, I don't believe that Israel is really an enemy of our enemies. No way they thought that they could fight against a terrorist organization with carpet bombings and the destruction of infrastructure.
Also there are Palestinians who have citizenship, maybe they could vote and stuff (although they have a much lower representation in Kneset than 20%, as their official ratio). And what about those who has no citizenship, and those who have to live in refugee camps? That was their home before Israel occupied it, and now they are not allowed to go back.
Why should I search for those countries when they aren't even mentioned before? What do these countries have to do with an israel discussion, a country using the Geneva Convention articles as toilet paper? Typical pro-israel nonsense to start about 'those other countries'. Are you going to do the same when someone mention China?
And you're in no position to tell someone else to shut up, specially not after the nonsense you just posted.
And you're in no position to tell someone else to shut up, specially not after the nonsense you just posted.
Where would you prefer to live? As an Arab Palestinian in Israeli or as a Jewish Israeli in Palestine?
I've never heard you demanding a boycott of Saudi Arabia. I know consistency is not one of your strong points, but at least give it a try.
I've never heard you demanding a boycott of Saudi Arabia. I know consistency is not one of your strong points, but at least give it a try.
I'm not going to spent to much words on such bullshit.
but all those are freedoms too..
No. There is no freedom to repress oppositors for example. There is power to do that, but that's not freedom.
but all those are freedoms too..
No. There is no freedom to repress oppositors for example. There is power to do that, but that's not freedom.
If someone starts to fire words like 'stupidity times ten', 'shut up' and 'fucked' from start then I wonder what is wrong. Not that strange I think. Not many people act that way, ever :/
Where would you prefer to live? As an Arab Palestinian in Israeli or as a Jewish Israeli in Palestine?
That's not the point.
I've never heard you demanding a boycott of Saudi Arabia.
That's also not the point.
But I know what you are trying to do and it won't happen.
That's not the point.
I've never heard you demanding a boycott of Saudi Arabia.
That's also not the point.
But I know what you are trying to do and it won't happen.