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You'll say that's a very little difference, only word twisting.
No. I'm saying you're lying by saying I'm not for drug freedom and free speech. And once again, there is no freedom to enslave people. Only power to enslave people.
No. I'm saying you're lying by saying I'm not for drug freedom and free speech. And once again, there is no freedom to enslave people. Only power to enslave people.
I criticize the ANC for its history of using violence (bombings with great civilian losses), yes.
People will fight back eventually when pushed to the edge. And when that happens innocent people on the other side will also die, just as those who were already dying because of the other side. And no, before you start posting more nonsense about me, I don't think innocent people should be a target and it is never a good thing when people are killed, but it happens when people start fighting with weapons and bombs, also when people start fighting back. Besides, were is you logic about freedom now, or is the right to protect yourself and fight for your freedom and property not included all of the sudden?
But probably Mandela is a god for you.
Nonsense comment.
What would you do with the Israeli/Palestine conflict? Bear in mind that the UN can't do a thing because the US is a permanent member of the security council (you can call that wrong - I'd agree - but it is a reality to take into account).
Yes, the vetos of the US are a big problem to solve the problems overthere. And I don't know how it can be solved, but a boycott of israel would be a good start. If the voters start to get restless because of for example financial problems and the government starts to get problems with these people, things have to change. And you can't veto a boycott because no one has to buy stuff of other countries, so the US is powerless with their vetos when that happens. Just as what happened with the boycott of South-Africa.
Another solution could be to redistribute the land, build a wall from east to west and make Jeruzalem neutral UN area so all religions can visite their sacred buildings without problems. But this won't ever happen eventhough almost all problems will be solved right away. Help both nations 1 more time financially so both can rebuild their new land and then UN for some years around the wall to keep an eye on both sides. I know, unrealistic but it could be the long-term solution.
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People will fight back eventually when pushed to the edge. And when that happens innocent people on the other side will also die, just as those who were already dying because of the other side. And no, before you start posting more nonsense about me, I don't think innocent people should be a target and it is never a good thing when people are killed, but it happens when people start fighting with weapons and bombs, also when people start fighting back. Besides, were is you logic about freedom now, or is the right to protect yourself and fight for your freedom and property not included all of the sudden?
But probably Mandela is a god for you.
Nonsense comment.
What would you do with the Israeli/Palestine conflict? Bear in mind that the UN can't do a thing because the US is a permanent member of the security council (you can call that wrong - I'd agree - but it is a reality to take into account).
Yes, the vetos of the US are a big problem to solve the problems overthere. And I don't know how it can be solved, but a boycott of israel would be a good start. If the voters start to get restless because of for example financial problems and the government starts to get problems with these people, things have to change. And you can't veto a boycott because no one has to buy stuff of other countries, so the US is powerless with their vetos when that happens. Just as what happened with the boycott of South-Africa.
Another solution could be to redistribute the land, build a wall from east to west and make Jeruzalem neutral UN area so all religions can visite their sacred buildings without problems. But this won't ever happen eventhough almost all problems will be solved right away. Help both nations 1 more time financially so both can rebuild their new land and then UN for some years around the wall to keep an eye on both sides. I know, unrealistic but it could be the long-term solution.
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North Carolina:
Shon Demetrius McClain, 40, died from blunt force trauma to the head and neck 13 days after prosecutors say he got into a fight with Officer Markeith Council.
McClain had been in custody since May 28 on misdemeanor charges of possession of drug paraphernalia and consuming malt beverage on public property.
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Shon Demetrius McClain, 40, died from blunt force trauma to the head and neck 13 days after prosecutors say he got into a fight with Officer Markeith Council.
McClain had been in custody since May 28 on misdemeanor charges of possession of drug paraphernalia and consuming malt beverage on public property.
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I don't like these kind of videos on the Sokker forum, someone died on camera, beaten to death :S
And very strange, nudity is often to much for Youtube but someone dying is ok ....
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And very strange, nudity is often to much for Youtube but someone dying is ok ....
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So during the apartheid in South-Africa you would also have blamed those blacks who fought back, or some resistance fighting the invaders who took your land and control your life and freedom (and food, water, travel, economy, etc etc)?
Yes, I blame everybody who attacks civillians, and that is exactley what some palestani do.
I am not even going to discuss this topic any further with you, you are way to biased and just making propaganda. Good luck with your fairytail.
Yes, I blame everybody who attacks civillians, and that is exactley what some palestani do.
I am not even going to discuss this topic any further with you, you are way to biased and just making propaganda. Good luck with your fairytail.
Fairytail? Propaganda? Wow ... I'm glade I'm used to those answers as I also grow up in the same pro- israel zionistic country as you did, but luckily things are changing and not everyone is as blind anymore. And not only in the Netherlands but worldwide. And this is not propaganda, this is information: B'Tselem - The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories. What they have thought us during the 70's and 80's was propaganda and find out what was real or not was nearly impossible. But today that's a lot easier ... if you really want to ofcourse.
So don't tell me I'm way to biased and believe in fairytales or propaganda. I have questioned the information the moment I understoot that the one in power most of the times won't be the victim to. And propaganda comes from those who need it to justify an occupation, steeling land and water, suppress people, etc etc. Don't say other people are the problem if you are to biased yourself to look at it with open eyes.
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So don't tell me I'm way to biased and believe in fairytales or propaganda. I have questioned the information the moment I understoot that the one in power most of the times won't be the victim to. And propaganda comes from those who need it to justify an occupation, steeling land and water, suppress people, etc etc. Don't say other people are the problem if you are to biased yourself to look at it with open eyes.
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You don't get the point do you ? I am just reminding you dont be so single sided as there are obvious 2 party's here that are both doing awfull things.
Killing civillians and terrorist attacks are simply wrong don't matter which side did it. And I know for a fact both sides are guilty of these things someway, so just defending one party is not fair in my eyes.
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Killing civillians and terrorist attacks are simply wrong don't matter which side did it. And I know for a fact both sides are guilty of these things someway, so just defending one party is not fair in my eyes.
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You don't get my point. I don't defend 1 side, I defend the people who do nothing wrong but are put behind a wall, suffering from apartheid, their homes destroyed or stolen, water stolen, farm land stolen and destroyed, don't have freedom, get arrested and locked away without trails, breaking many of the Geneva Conventions treaties and people really suffering from this, etc etc. all by a country which claims to be civil and is doing the right thing :/
If you really believe the propaganda you have to punish both sides and can't start with the one in power who is building the wall, stealing the land and water, occupying land and send in more soldiers whenever they like, etc etc, or believe the propaganda no one can do something to stop that war so we can only hope for the best, then you and all who also believe this is true are the ones who don't get the point.
To use the balkan again as an example, all sides were wrong but not all are punished the same. Why? Because both sides aren't doing the same wrong things on the same scale. The same for israel, just look at the B'Tselem Statistics if you think I'm wrong. But as always, what makes sense in other places in the world all of the sudden doesn't count for israel. And that's the result of decades of zionist propaganda and the 'victims' they always claim to be (like hijacking WW2) and those who dare to call for action are immediately anti-Semitic (eventhough israeli and jew isn't synonymous at all > resident vs religion/rase), and this zionistic propaganda worked very well, many are still effected by it but it's changing.
But enough is enough, people are starting to see it's not all true and that's great. This is just one of those things How G4S helps Israel break the Geneva convention, the reason why G4S is kicked out the system of ABVAKABO and also in the UK union head calls on G4S to end Israel contracts, and no, this is not propaganda! Things are slowly changing, people dare to speak out more and that's also great.
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If you really believe the propaganda you have to punish both sides and can't start with the one in power who is building the wall, stealing the land and water, occupying land and send in more soldiers whenever they like, etc etc, or believe the propaganda no one can do something to stop that war so we can only hope for the best, then you and all who also believe this is true are the ones who don't get the point.
To use the balkan again as an example, all sides were wrong but not all are punished the same. Why? Because both sides aren't doing the same wrong things on the same scale. The same for israel, just look at the B'Tselem Statistics if you think I'm wrong. But as always, what makes sense in other places in the world all of the sudden doesn't count for israel. And that's the result of decades of zionist propaganda and the 'victims' they always claim to be (like hijacking WW2) and those who dare to call for action are immediately anti-Semitic (eventhough israeli and jew isn't synonymous at all > resident vs religion/rase), and this zionistic propaganda worked very well, many are still effected by it but it's changing.
But enough is enough, people are starting to see it's not all true and that's great. This is just one of those things How G4S helps Israel break the Geneva convention, the reason why G4S is kicked out the system of ABVAKABO and also in the UK union head calls on G4S to end Israel contracts, and no, this is not propaganda! Things are slowly changing, people dare to speak out more and that's also great.
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You don't get my point. I don't defend 1 side
I am willing to believe you try not to defend one side, but you should try harder.
I am willing to believe you try not to defend one side, but you should try harder.
You forget about 20 more lines after that quote ............... :/
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No. Look, your choice of words says a lot. You say that critics of Israel / the Israeli policy are automatically called anti-Semitic. Yes, and that indeed is wrong. But you're doing the same thing by calling your own country 'Zionist'. One has to understand that the use of such a word puts you in one of the two sides.
Yes, I am against zionism and yes my country has been zionistic for a long time (just look for example at the political game called Eurovision, during the 80's and 90's: israel 12 points Netherlands 12 points). The pro-israel attitude of the Netherlands and many of the politician is not a secret but I'm aganist it. And there is nothing wrong with being against a reprehensible ideology like zionism, you are against many ideologies also and you find that there is nothing wrong with that, also not by saying it out loud.
But because I'm against 1 ideology doesn't mean I'm theirfore pro-the other side. I don't support for example Hamas at all. I feel sorry for those who are stuck in between, and that are those living behind the wall suffering from apartheid, the real victims, and no, the victims aren't those living in front of their wall with their freedom, human rights, justice, army etc etc.
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But because I'm against 1 ideology doesn't mean I'm theirfore pro-the other side. I don't support for example Hamas at all. I feel sorry for those who are stuck in between, and that are those living behind the wall suffering from apartheid, the real victims, and no, the victims aren't those living in front of their wall with their freedom, human rights, justice, army etc etc.
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You once again did not get the point.
Read! But because I'm against 1 ideology doesn't mean I'm theirfore pro-the other side.
Someone can think I am choosing sites because of what I write, but someone's wrong interpretation and assumption without asking and theirfore not knowing, isn't my problem.
Someone can think I am choosing sites because of what I write, but someone's wrong interpretation and assumption without asking and theirfore not knowing, isn't my problem.