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Read! But because I'm against 1 ideology doesn't mean I'm theirfore pro-the other side.
Someone can think I am choosing sites because of what I write, but someone's wrong interpretation and assumption without asking and theirfore not knowing, isn't my problem.
Someone can think I am choosing sites because of what I write, but someone's wrong interpretation and assumption without asking and theirfore not knowing, isn't my problem.
Well, the Dutch forum is pretty clear about your position. Some poorly written English sentences don't change that.
I explained myself well enough, even with my sometimes not to perfect English. And if something isn't clear people can always ask ... but if they don't ask than it's not my problem.
To be honest I don't think that you can compare both situations. The palestanians are occupied by the Israeli.
Chechyna obviously is not.
Chechyna obviously is not.
For example Charles. Do muslims and jews have the same human rights were you were talking about in Israel ?
Do jews have the same rights in Palestania if they even dare to get there :p ? I'm just curious...you know with hamas leaders openly saying all jews should be killed seems like a somewhat hostile envirimont if you ask me.
And that's exactly were I draw the line. I know Israel does a lot of bad stuff like you wrote before...but If I somehow managed to get in a situation like Israel with all these hostile countries around me...it's certainly not easy.
One could discuss that it is Israel own's fault because they occupied it but I believe that's a whole other discussion and that discussion is even more complicated.
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Do jews have the same rights in Palestania if they even dare to get there :p ? I'm just curious...you know with hamas leaders openly saying all jews should be killed seems like a somewhat hostile envirimont if you ask me.
And that's exactly were I draw the line. I know Israel does a lot of bad stuff like you wrote before...but If I somehow managed to get in a situation like Israel with all these hostile countries around me...it's certainly not easy.
One could discuss that it is Israel own's fault because they occupied it but I believe that's a whole other discussion and that discussion is even more complicated.
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Do jews have the same rights in Palestania if they even dare to get there :p ?
As a matter of fact there are Jewish settlers creating new colonies in Palestine. They populate the territory, so they can say in the future, those belong to Israel, and Muslims have nothing to do there.
As a matter of fact there are Jewish settlers creating new colonies in Palestine. They populate the territory, so they can say in the future, those belong to Israel, and Muslims have nothing to do there.
First I did in as an irony for the racist that the only thing in his mind is why to wipe out the Zionist,
this teard is about the world but 90% of the post are about the middle east problem, hardely see anyone talk about the genucide in Syria, Checnia problems and iother bad situation around the globe.
Second, If you ask Checnia people, some part of their land such as Dagestan is still occupied by Russia
Third and the most important thing that people must understand is that till they will live in Israel or in "Palestine" thry will never be able to understand the problem and the real situation.
I can understand the demand of the Palestinians for Independence,, but I can understand the fear and the un trustable feeling of the Israeli from letting it (mostly as they never recognize Israel as a state and call to wipe us from earth).
The world must underhand that forcing the sides to have "peace" will make is peace on the paper but not real peace like it should be and that come from the free willing of both sides (like Israel and Egypt).
Things moving in a difference time table here, and when it should arrive it will arrive.
BTW...... the racist keep showing Betzelm reports, I am proud to live in a country that allow this to be published, and even letting Arab people that support the Palestinians to get voted to our parliament.
I just wonder if on the other side there is no one who think they made wrong things too, or the fact that you don't hear about it from them is because that they know that if they will publish such a thing like that, they will end up dragging after a bike like we saw in Gaza not long ago.......
I just wonder if on the other side
I only want to say that this means nothing.
If israel does something wrong it must be blamed.
Even if its enemies do something worst.
You can disagree with him, but I think it's wrong to call him racist.
I only want to say that this means nothing.
If israel does something wrong it must be blamed.
Even if its enemies do something worst.
You can disagree with him, but I think it's wrong to call him racist.
He say that he is anti zioinst....... thats racism in my eyes/
I never say that we are inocent and do nothing wrong, we keep doing it for the last 46 years so do the other side as well.
Trust me that I want my kids have a secure and peacefull life like you have in Italy or him in Amsterdam, I trully want that the Gazza kids will never hear a bombing sound in their life again too, but things are much more complicated than to finish it in one day
I only mention that the racist is keep talking about Betzelem as an objective source (and they not really), so I wonder why there is not such an objective sources on the other side.
I never say that we are inocent and do nothing wrong, we keep doing it for the last 46 years so do the other side as well.
Trust me that I want my kids have a secure and peacefull life like you have in Italy or him in Amsterdam, I trully want that the Gazza kids will never hear a bombing sound in their life again too, but things are much more complicated than to finish it in one day
I only mention that the racist is keep talking about Betzelem as an objective source (and they not really), so I wonder why there is not such an objective sources on the other side.
He say that he is anti zioinst....... thats racism in my eyes/
I think you and he use the word ZIONIST with different meaning.
for the rest, I think israel deserve to be pressed someway to stop their crimes.
(NB: i think the "other side" needs an harder intevention, but it is a little stupid and sad that is necessary to do this specification all times)
I think you and he use the word ZIONIST with different meaning.
for the rest, I think israel deserve to be pressed someway to stop their crimes.
(NB: i think the "other side" needs an harder intevention, but it is a little stupid and sad that is necessary to do this specification all times)
As a matter of fact there are Jewish settlers creating new colonies in Palestine. They populate the territory, so they can say in the future, those belong to Israel, and Muslims have nothing to do there
You didn't understand the meaning of what I said. Try again :p
You didn't understand the meaning of what I said. Try again :p
hehee...I love this :-)
Not only strong country but also they have nice sense of humor :-)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-29/russia-wishes-nato-happy-new-year-only-russia-can
Not only strong country but also they have nice sense of humor :-)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-29/russia-wishes-nato-happy-new-year-only-russia-can
Do jews have the same rights in Palestania if they even dare to get there :p ? I'm just curious...you know with hamas leaders openly saying all jews should be killed seems like a somewhat hostile envirimont if you ask me.
You already gave your answer, Hamas doesn't accept the israeli on their land. And if israeli are in Palestine they are most probably not save like they are when they are on the right side of the apartheid wall. But that's not that strange when you are on enemy ground where only israeli soldiers come and kill Palestinians whenever they like. Palestinians, not only Hamas leaders and members.
But I think you draw a very strange line. The aggressor and occupier is in problems because of all of that, but instead of condemn that because they shouldn't be there, not on Palestinian ground (Gaza and Westbank) or even not at all, you draw a line somewhere in favor of the most wrong group who are stealing more and more land, water, building a wall on Palestinian ground more and more, and are doing more and more to make the remaining land unliveable for Palestinians (Palestinians, not some political group but normal civilians who did nothing wrong and are the ones suffering). Strange line you draw ....
EDIT: One could discuss that it is Israel own's fault because they occupied it but I believe that's a whole other discussion and that discussion is even more complicated.
And yes, you can make the discussion very complicated, or you look at who is suffering the most and the one causing that should be stopped doing that. That makes it a lot less complicated discussion I think :/
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You already gave your answer, Hamas doesn't accept the israeli on their land. And if israeli are in Palestine they are most probably not save like they are when they are on the right side of the apartheid wall. But that's not that strange when you are on enemy ground where only israeli soldiers come and kill Palestinians whenever they like. Palestinians, not only Hamas leaders and members.
But I think you draw a very strange line. The aggressor and occupier is in problems because of all of that, but instead of condemn that because they shouldn't be there, not on Palestinian ground (Gaza and Westbank) or even not at all, you draw a line somewhere in favor of the most wrong group who are stealing more and more land, water, building a wall on Palestinian ground more and more, and are doing more and more to make the remaining land unliveable for Palestinians (Palestinians, not some political group but normal civilians who did nothing wrong and are the ones suffering). Strange line you draw ....
EDIT: One could discuss that it is Israel own's fault because they occupied it but I believe that's a whole other discussion and that discussion is even more complicated.
And yes, you can make the discussion very complicated, or you look at who is suffering the most and the one causing that should be stopped doing that. That makes it a lot less complicated discussion I think :/
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the racist
Racist?? I'm against israel and israeli are no race, it are citizens of a country! This is the propaganda I was talking about. Complete nonsense to call me a racist.
The irony, being called a racist by an israeli like you :/
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Racist?? I'm against israel and israeli are no race, it are citizens of a country! This is the propaganda I was talking about. Complete nonsense to call me a racist.
The irony, being called a racist by an israeli like you :/
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