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What I could see in TV or youtube is people saying "Russia", I dont see a lot of people saying "ukraine!" on the Crimea.

considering that there are Russian soldiers around, would you be so eager to run around yelling 'Ukraine'?

That is true.... but Russian soldiers are not on the streets...but yes, that fact can make protesting worse :-)

I was quickly reading this topic and I wonder why isn't clear yet that in Ukraine it's happening the same thing US made 1st time in Chile in 1973, and since then a lot of other times around the world... Remove an hostile leader (no matter if fairy elected or not) and place a puppet in order to sell some strategical asset to some corporation financing elections in US, and to increase their business.

But, if I can assume that in 1973 people had some difficulties to gather information around the world, nowadays we just need to google a little to find everything.

I don't know if already posted, but, in short, some random links...
Anonymous Ukraine releases Klitschko e-mails showing treason
OpIndependence. Confidential e-mails of Klitschko leaked
Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and Catherine Ashton discuss over the phone
BBC NEWSNIGHT: Neo-Nazi threat in new Ukraine

As you can see, I don't post just some komsomolskaya pravda propaganda, but also some "western" propaganda...

It's as clear as water that now in Ukraine neo-nazi and western puppets are in charge.
No matter how large is the consensus towards ukrainian people: nothing good could ever come from those "Bandera-tzi". Nothing at all!
I certainly not a Putin fan, but I'm very disappointed when I see all theese neo nazi fanatic growing in number day by day. And worst of all, I can't realize how it's possible that a lot of people don't see what kind of governament is this in Ukraine.

somebody should translate this into eng :-DDD
https://plus.google.com/u/0/106872185287128956405/posts/c3nsF4fawPp

We are Anonymous Ukraine
We’ve hacked e-mail account of Laurynas Jonavicius – the adviser to the President of Lithuania. We’ve downloaded all the e-mails that were sent to him and discovered letters from Vitali Klitschko.

And i've stopped reading...

Good video of Newsnight.

When you hear such words (Ukraine is for Ukrainians only, no Russians, no Jews, ...), it shows that some people don't learn anything from the past.

Quite frankly, I'd prefer to live in the Ukraine of Yanukovych than in the Ukraine of Svoboda and Pravy Sektor.

When you hear such words (Ukraine is for Ukrainians only, no Russians, no Jews, ...), it shows that some people don't learn anything from the past.

I was trying to explain it to you some days ago :p

He said just formal facts :-). If there is constitution and rules, he is still the president and has formal power in his hands. - no.

first "fact" = he didn't flee ukrainie... said the president od ukraine, from russia, after over a week in hiding, nobody knows where he is, and 2 public speeches happend in russia.
On 21 feburary, Yanukovich signed a deal with the opposition, and three eu foreign minister's in which ukrainie went back to the 1994 constitution. This effectivly meant, he gave in to the opposition and international pressure the he run away from government, the "temporary government" took oven, (even a russian putins deputy was present there) so he is no longer in charge, now he state's he is still in charge and that the "new" temporary government is responsible for the shootings at their own supportes?!? please... this was CLEAR nonsense, just like the neo-nazi comparisons are... far right-wing doesn't not mean facist, just like a crimean russian speaker is not equal to supporter of crimea joining russia on 16 march. lets be serious, there are some radicals but lets not put everyone in the same pot (Turchinov, Yatseniuk, Tymoshenko are not facists), Esspecially that crimean "referendum" can not happen, under russian occupation, referendum could happen if Ukraine Kiev government allowed it. Its all lies lies, and misleading information. Like so: the russian choice of no choice :-D :-]



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the "new" temporary government is responsible for the shootings at their own supportes?!? please... this was CLEAR nonsense

What I told you about googling? We need just few clicks to verify news. Maybe we don't have to belive everything RT is saying, but we can also easly find some sources above every suspect of being a pro-russian media...
Ukraine crisis: bugged call reveals conspiracy theory about Kiev snipers

"What was quite disturbing, this same Olga told that, well, all the evidence shows that people who were killed by snipers from both sides, among policemen and people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides," Paet said.
"So she also showed me some photos, she said that as medical doctor, she can say it is the same handwriting, the same type of bullets, and it's really disturbing that now the new coalition, that they don't want to investigate what exactly happened."
"So there is a stronger and stronger understanding that behind snipers it was not Yanukovych, it was somebody from the new coalition," Paet says.

So, we have the estonian foreign minister (I think we don't need to remind how anti-Russia Estonia is...) quoting Olga Bogomolets...
Olga Bogomolets is also known as an active organizer and participant of civic campaigns against illegal building works ruining historical and cultural relics and monuments of Ukraine. In November 2013 she encouraged her students to take part in the EuroMaidan protests

Is this propaganda???

Now please tell me...
What is the most nonsense?
1) Yanukovich won a free-democratic election. His governament don't really helped the people, who set protests in Kyev and other western ucrainian towns. Then some far rights moviments increase the violence of the protests and hired some contractors who shooted both cops and people, causing mass riots (as I said, this was made by US since 1973 in Chile and then in half South America, in Africa, in middle east...The Shock Doctrine Documentary).
2) Peaceful protesters moved against a dictator in order to set a democratic governament who can lead the country out from the russian chains, to join the NATO flag of freedom and democracy, to join the EU flag of freedom, peace, equity and economics prosperity... But the new Stalin, leaders of the bad russians, invaded the beautiful Crimean peninsula, marched with his army, oppres citizens who were free, and is forcing they to vote to join russian federation?

(I remind that in Kyev hundreds died during protests, while I still don't have a news on a single causality in Crimea... maybe a coincidence.....)
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jaisom, facts are called facts because it can not be change by speaking :-). So you can not change the fact, no matter how much you want it :-DD

flee....
Presidens said that he was worry about his life and life of his family because of army coup. From his point of view it was normal. Dalajlama is where now ?

The fact that he has no real power is true, but it is fact too that it is illegal. As Putin said, he is still president but he has no power. Constitution of Ukraine dont say anything about this.

Jaisom... Kosovo is good example. Kosovo was and is always Serbia. But EU and US decided that if majority people want have independence they can. They use army to make Kosovo as a new country.
Was this normal ? According to EU and US yes.

Crimea is same. There is just one difference, Kosovo was and is Serbia (no matter about papier which says sth different) and Crimea was and is always "russia". So Crimea independence or joining russia is very natural, normal.

If you think that it is occupation, what is your opinion on Kosovo :-D ?

under russian occupation

there is a valid contract between Ukraine and Russia so Russia can have there up to 25thousand soldiers and what I read there are also some paragraph about defending that part of Ukraine when a problem occurs. You can not talk about occupation if there is several tens of years valid contract which allow this.

I vote 2 for biggest propaganda :-)

The 'funny' part of that sign is, it where the nazi's invading the neighbors ... like Russia does now!




For those who keep posting their lunacy, it is pretty simple: an agreement signed on Dec. 5, 1994, by the United States, Britain, Russia (!!!) and Ukraine, promising to recognize Ukraine’s borders in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons at the time.

From whatever side you look at it, left, right, up or down, the fact is that 1 crazy country didn't kept their part of the agreement of recognizing Ukraine’s borders and send in their army (and the army that was already there).

All because of a corrupt russian puppet president sold the country to Russia for a lousy 11 billion euros. And when citizens stood up against this corruption (ofcourse they do) he gave the order to kill them and became public enemy number 1! Russia lost control without this murdering puppet president and send in the army to take in the first important part of the country, Crimea with the gas fields and Russia's only warm water port of the country, which is important for the Russian navy.

And knowing the ambition of madman Putin, this invation makes sense .....

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To use a much more suitable picture ....


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LOL


whi is this lady actually? is she really the same, or just dofferent old womans whith similar lookings?