Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

I fully see the problem with the current referendum scenario, but are you telling us that a referendum after 6 months of full control by the current Kiev government is to be trusted instead?
We don't even know if said government would survive any kind of election to begin with...

Ok, let's go with the censorship then....
I quit this topic.

What I had to say, I said. Links are up there for those who want to learn something or just to view the story in a different way.
(at least untill they'll be deleted...)
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And I don't even want to see this crap when I come to Sokker. I already have to read a lot of crap and that's more then enough!

The topic is called "NEWS AROUND THE WORLD". Feel free to live in another world, where news are different. Or to stop reading this thread, if you have no interest on it.

Can you tell me which country neighbour country was occupying Kosovo just like the Russians are doing now ?
NATO :-D, it was in TV, I hope you could see that :-)

I agree with you, too.

But not after they were occupied by the Russians.
I dont see there any occupation, so it is hard to react. I see there just russian army protecting russian people. And that army can be there because they have contract with Ukraina.

You don't see the difference between Russian occupying Crimea and the NATO who were in Kosovo ?

Really ? NATO isnt even a country lol. By the way the NATO is neutral and had no interest in Kosovo. Russia is NOT neutral and has all the interest in Crimea.

But not after they were occupied by the Russians.
I dont see there any occupation, so it is hard to react. I see there just russian army protecting russian people. And that army can be there because they have contract with Ukraina.`


Sorry if you really believe this nonsense there is nothing to discuss about.

Russia "He ukraine we have contract to invade you is it ok if we come now"?

Ukraine :"Sure dude, if the contract stated that you can invade our property why not ? Can you also take over our own military bases because we dont like them anymore, and oh could you please forces our troops to leave they are lazy ass soldiers"

Meanwhile in USA :

Breaking news : "USA invaded over 80 countries over the world. When the general was asked why all of the sudden he invaded all those countries he replied :" DOHH, don't you get it ? We have contracts with these countries so now we can invade them ! This is a acceptable casus belli!"

By the way the NATO is neutral and had no interest in Kosovo.

Other things aside, how come NATO "is" neutral? How can something "be neutral", in abstract, by essence. I mean, besides Switzerland :P In any case, bombing a place doesn't exactly fit the definition of "neutrality", does it?

Of course there are several differences between the two cases, but that's more of a reason not to take the down path to nonsense :D

By the way the NATO is neutral and had no interest in Kosovo.

are you serious?
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By neutral I ment to say that : The NATO had no interest in Kosovo like the russians have in Crimea.

Isnt it true that the people in Kosovo were protesting peacefully for 8 years before the UÇK(Kosovo army) was founded ?

I mean why are we even comparing these situations ? The NATO isnt eventy a country...Kosovo wanted to be free and they were helpend bij the NATO after 8 years...

Crimea on the other hand is occupied before there was even a referendum or whatever. And they are occupied by the country they wanna "join"...

BUT HE LETS COMPARE THEM :p

Tell me what the NATO gained then

Tell me what the NATO gained then

please search it by youself...
Do you see what jugoslavia split lead to?
Croatia and slovenia in EU area, Serbia splitted and half occupied.
Do you need to remember what was theri situation before? (all russian influence area)
do you need to understand what are their situation now? (all nato colonies, except partially serbia)

About kosovo, it's been useful to control kosovo in order to force Serbia to become more friendly in making of South Stream

So Croatia and Slovenia were forced to join the EU or what ?

So you are saying it's ok for Crimea to want independence and maybe join russia...?But on the other hand Kosovo can not be independant after 8 YEARS!?

Did the freaking Russians wait 8 year to "liberate Crimea" ?? No, they just went in after a few months...

Supporting the other and criticizing the other is hypocrite and therefore also biased.
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So Croatia and Slovenia were forced to join the EU or what ?

are you kidding me?

So you are saying it's ok for Crimea to want independence and maybe join russia...?But on the other hand Kosovo can not be independant after 8 YEARS!?

No, those are your fantasies. I never wrote it.
I only want to deny that someone inthis wold can believe that:
"By the way the NATO is neutral and had no interest in Kosovo."

Did the freaking Russians wait 8 year to "liberate Crimea" ?? No, they just went in after a few months...

Supporting the other and criticizing the other is hypocrite and therefore also biased.

I think you're confused, maybe you refer to another user..
I can't understand where did you see me write such bullshits.

Nato is maybe stronger but has no moral "feature" cos it is group of various armies and interests over the world where only power is important...

Russia is weaker maybe but Russia is a country and they are responsible for what they did, Russian army is Russia itself. In nato various states can say "it is not good attack there...but NATO is NATO...it is not our fault"

This is the difference and yes I can see that :-D
And one more difference.
Russia army did not kill thousands of people in Crimea, NATO army killed thousand of people in Kosovo.