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Please, read that resolution first and than compare to NATO war activity and attacks !! THX.
I think you should read it again, here it is: UN resolution: key points
- Authorises UN member states "to take all necessary measures ... to protect civilians and civilian populated areas under threat of attack in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, including Benghazi, while excluding a foreign occupation force of any form on any part of Libyan territory". -
f I have bought some weapons, than I find 100 people in Nederlands which really dont like your government and help them to start rebellions your army ..... helping rebels against Nederlands regular army ??
This is all hypothetical, nothing more as a nice story you just made up.
1. Libya is an independent country !! (no matter that you consider it like colony from the past time)
(there is civil war, they must solved it,
No, the UN has the right to step in. That's it. I don't really mind what you think of that as you don't make the laws, the fact is the UN can and will interfere if all UN members agree, or at least not against.
NATO can just stop killing civils, but Kaddafi is not attacking civils :-), please show me some video where is Kaddafi killing civils, thx!)
I don't even know how to answer this lie ...... did the Libyans killed themselfs?
2. Kaddafi army is fighting against armed men, no civilians.
Nato is bombarding Libya and some civilians are dying.
He is fighting civilians that picked up guns the moment they got murdered by Khadaffi. I know, you don't believe this, you don't have to tell me than again and again, but you are wrong!
3. Russians and west and US countries are delivering weapons for Libya for many years !
Politics is difficult, ones you were a friend, but when you start killing your own people you become the enemy, how strange ..............................
4. Western media have different news as Russian or maybe other news (like Vatican today). Who believe just to its national media is fool (it is valid for both, me and you of course, no offense, I am reading news from more sides)
I really wonder were I can find this 'hate the UN, and Khadaffi is our friend' stuff you call news :)
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I think you should read it again, here it is: UN resolution: key points
- Authorises UN member states "to take all necessary measures ... to protect civilians and civilian populated areas under threat of attack in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, including Benghazi, while excluding a foreign occupation force of any form on any part of Libyan territory". -
f I have bought some weapons, than I find 100 people in Nederlands which really dont like your government and help them to start rebellions your army ..... helping rebels against Nederlands regular army ??
This is all hypothetical, nothing more as a nice story you just made up.
1. Libya is an independent country !! (no matter that you consider it like colony from the past time)
(there is civil war, they must solved it,
No, the UN has the right to step in. That's it. I don't really mind what you think of that as you don't make the laws, the fact is the UN can and will interfere if all UN members agree, or at least not against.
NATO can just stop killing civils, but Kaddafi is not attacking civils :-), please show me some video where is Kaddafi killing civils, thx!)
I don't even know how to answer this lie ...... did the Libyans killed themselfs?
2. Kaddafi army is fighting against armed men, no civilians.
Nato is bombarding Libya and some civilians are dying.
He is fighting civilians that picked up guns the moment they got murdered by Khadaffi. I know, you don't believe this, you don't have to tell me than again and again, but you are wrong!
3. Russians and west and US countries are delivering weapons for Libya for many years !
Politics is difficult, ones you were a friend, but when you start killing your own people you become the enemy, how strange ..............................
4. Western media have different news as Russian or maybe other news (like Vatican today). Who believe just to its national media is fool (it is valid for both, me and you of course, no offense, I am reading news from more sides)
I really wonder were I can find this 'hate the UN, and Khadaffi is our friend' stuff you call news :)
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Ok, you indulging in arguments, so i give you one not so old...there was a governmental problem in Czech republic during their presidency of EU and I heard lot of Western European politics, mainly Belgian thats really bad situation and Czech should be ashamed for this situation...now your nation couldn´t elect your government almost for the year and nothing is wrong, Belgium is just ordinary EU country, no matter there seats most of EU institutions...
Do you know Belgium well? Well, if you do, you know we have currently 5 governments that 'work' in some way. Only federal government doesn't exist really, it's a caretaker government. I don't see any problem actually. However, you bringing this up here is really immature.
Btw, you know NOTHING about our situation. If you do, PM me. A non-Belgian can't understand our difficulties.
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Do you know Belgium well? Well, if you do, you know we have currently 5 governments that 'work' in some way. Only federal government doesn't exist really, it's a caretaker government. I don't see any problem actually. However, you bringing this up here is really immature.
Btw, you know NOTHING about our situation. If you do, PM me. A non-Belgian can't understand our difficulties.
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Even the neighbors don't, how should he ;P
I just hope, that if some Arabian or Afica country or group will send some kind of chemical attack to Europe in the future, that my country will not be targeted...this aggressive acts of NATO and some western states can be start of so huge hate, that it can be start of WWIII in the future, but people very fast forgot on WW1 and 2 :-(.
Some stupid heads in leadership in EU think that this is game about who has more power and is willing to show it or that war is good for new votes in election (like Szarkozy/Bush think :-( )
Some stupid heads in leadership in EU think that this is game about who has more power and is willing to show it or that war is good for new votes in election (like Szarkozy/Bush think :-( )
where is in UN resolution for example attack on barracks.. barracks are not tank going to kill somebody.... where is attack on hospital ?? where is trying to send weapons to rebels... should I continue.... make me bold that points of resolution which allow this, thx !
I just hope, that if some Arabian or Afica country or group will send some kind of chemical attack to Europe in the future, that my country will not be targeted...this aggressive acts of NATO and some western states can be start of so huge hate, that it can be start of WWIII in the future, but people very fast forgot on WW1 and 2 :-(.
Ridiculous doom-thinking :) You should merge all your text and make a good Sci-Fi book ;)
Some stupid heads in leadership in EU think that this is game about who has more power and is willing to show it or that war is good for new votes in election (like Szarkozy/Bush think :-( )
You think they think it's a game, because of that it isn't true, only your own truth. And I don't know if Szarkozy is winning votes, again speculations I think. Or show me the article.
Maybe you should start all text with 'I think', at least then we know it isn't based on some news item but your personal thought.
where is in UN resolution for example attack on barracks.. barracks are not tank going to kill somebody.... where is attack on hospital ?? where is trying to send weapons to rebels... should I continue.... make me bold that points of resolution which allow this, thx !
All military units are legal targets if these can be used in 1 way or another to fight the NATO, also barracks yes.
And the hopsital, that are the unfortunate casualties of war. Those things can happen in war, war is an ugly thing. But as I already explained to you, ALL death can be blamed on Khadaffi, even those killed by the allies as they would never have been there if Khadaffi wouldn't have started to murderer the Libyans when they demonstrated for more freedom, work etc.
Libyan regime says hospital hit by coalition strikes, 4 dead
And giving 1 side weapons wasn't the deal indeed, hope this will be limited as much as possible.
Ridiculous doom-thinking :) You should merge all your text and make a good Sci-Fi book ;)
Some stupid heads in leadership in EU think that this is game about who has more power and is willing to show it or that war is good for new votes in election (like Szarkozy/Bush think :-( )
You think they think it's a game, because of that it isn't true, only your own truth. And I don't know if Szarkozy is winning votes, again speculations I think. Or show me the article.
Maybe you should start all text with 'I think', at least then we know it isn't based on some news item but your personal thought.
where is in UN resolution for example attack on barracks.. barracks are not tank going to kill somebody.... where is attack on hospital ?? where is trying to send weapons to rebels... should I continue.... make me bold that points of resolution which allow this, thx !
All military units are legal targets if these can be used in 1 way or another to fight the NATO, also barracks yes.
And the hopsital, that are the unfortunate casualties of war. Those things can happen in war, war is an ugly thing. But as I already explained to you, ALL death can be blamed on Khadaffi, even those killed by the allies as they would never have been there if Khadaffi wouldn't have started to murderer the Libyans when they demonstrated for more freedom, work etc.
Libyan regime says hospital hit by coalition strikes, 4 dead
And giving 1 side weapons wasn't the deal indeed, hope this will be limited as much as possible.
And the hopsital, that are the unfortunate casualties of war. Those things can happen in war, war is an ugly thing. But as I already explained to you, ALL death can be blamed on Khadaffi, even those killed by the allies as they would never have been there if Khadaffi wouldn't have started to murderer the Libyans when they demonstrated for more freedom, work etc.
R U mad? this is as clear hypocrisy as it would be...that´s another way how to say "I think", cause I can´t believe it´s public opinion in your country!!! I wonder what you will say in next 10 years about rumpil´s sci-fi, you´re sticking into the hornet's nest
R U mad? this is as clear hypocrisy as it would be...that´s another way how to say "I think", cause I can´t believe it´s public opinion in your country!!! I wonder what you will say in next 10 years about rumpil´s sci-fi, you´re sticking into the hornet's nest
No, I'm actually very sure, if not 100% sure the allies are trying to kill as less innocent people as possible. But unfortunately, these things do happen in war, how ever careful they are. If you think otherwise, well, my brother is in the army (I think that is wrong but ok, I'm not him) but I'm very sure he isn't a murderer and is fighting for the good guys. He isn't over there at the moment by the way.
let it be, live your limited life...even don´t try to understand meaning for word limited, you didn´t catch any point I wrote here in last 2 days, so I can waste my free time in better way than in discussion with you and Rubinho...bye...
and WWII started by polish attack on german transmitter (as german said)... ??
Oh, my god..... !
Oh, my god..... !
and WWII started by polish attack on german transmitter (as german said)... ??
What? another strange comparison or do you really want to make a point? :)
What? another strange comparison or do you really want to make a point? :)
An attack on a radio station in Gleiwitz on August 31, 1939, staged by the German secret police, served as a pretext for Nazi Germany to invade Poland, which marked the start of the Second World War.
I think that you are trying to say is the power of propaganda, and the aggressor can't be trusted. Well, your absolutely right. Just see what news the state TV's are telling the people in all these Arab countries ruled by dictators or oppressive governments: nothing wrong, no demonstrations and if there are demonstrations it are only pro-governments, everyone is happy, and more of those lies :) So yes, these people can't be trusted.
But still it's a strange comparison, WWII and 2011 :)
But still it's a strange comparison, WWII and 2011 :)
I still think it's a bit weird: Should the 'people of the world' just let all those men, women, children, elderly be murdered by their ruler?
It may sound arrogant but haven't you guys signed the european treaty on human rights and haven't you joined the EU.
The EU says that she will defend the human rights.
So you are just saying: 'the goals of the eu are crap, we don't care about humanity' WTF why did you join?
Should the western european countries have left the eastern countries in their misery after the wall? Hell no, we supported democratic initiatives. And now you deny that help to others?
It may sound arrogant but haven't you guys signed the european treaty on human rights and haven't you joined the EU.
The EU says that she will defend the human rights.
So you are just saying: 'the goals of the eu are crap, we don't care about humanity' WTF why did you join?
Should the western european countries have left the eastern countries in their misery after the wall? Hell no, we supported democratic initiatives. And now you deny that help to others?
WTF why did you join?
For economical reasons, like every other country.
For economical reasons, like every other country.