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Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

2014-03-26 15:00:00
Slave in EU...Don't you think that its weird, Greece got into trouble, its EU's fault! Italy felt into the same pit, its EU's fault! Every time someone hits the ground, its the EU's fault! You just can't realize that you spend more money than you earn. Italy debt as % of GDP: 136.72%, Germany tries to wake you up, you gotta cut the expenses cause this shit is unsustainable, and you go "fcking nazis, fcking EU"...

I think that is the superficial view of someone that know very little of what is talking about.

study, learn and then you'll never say again that. Expecially the funny part about Germany (and the tale of the lazy italian vs the honest german.. that really makes me goes out crazy!!!)
2014-03-26 15:08:11
first of all, let Russia know that it won't be tollerated that they buy presidents who then sell the country to Russia

Why not?
who has to do what? Gaining what?
Why should it be possible to do for USA? (we all listened the phone call I assume with USA ambassador and timoshenko's government)

and that chaos and uprisings aren't in any way a valid reason for Russia to invade countries to 'protect the ethnic Russian minority' ... ofcourse it's not because of gas, oil and lebensraum ... These crimes should not be profitable for Russia, they have to be punished for it.

punished?
you are a dangerous person, just think a little about the consequences of what you say.

Ukraine should not be split in 2 because that's what Russia wants
I think that's what Washington and Berlin projected since their payed fake protest-leaders stardted to mess Ukraine during Sochi Winter Olympics (to take Putin in an impasse with the wolrd watching..)


Anyway you are a "good vs bad" believer, so I will simply stop to answer you.
2014-03-26 15:13:18
Anyway you are a "good vs bad" believer, so I will simply stop to answer you.

No, I'm a 'you don't let a country like Russia with a madman president do what it wants and wait how bad it will become for the invaded countries and EU' kind of person.

The real danger is to do nothing, because doing nothing is also doing something, namely acting as a pussy and let Russia rule the east again. The borders are clear, Russia also knows these borders, and crossing these borders with an army is an act of war and should be dealt with that same way!

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2014-03-26 15:24:17
2014-03-26 18:19:57
guzh77 a rumpil 2014-03-06 21:13:12

P.S. One of my friend from Crimea said that he is happy to join RF! That ihe is russian! I have asked him why he didn't just buy a train ticked and moved to russia.


diamanti [mmmj] to guzh77
This is one of the naziest thing I've read on this topic.
Please don't write to me anymore
.

So you got problem with reading I think...
If you want to change your nationality you do so! If you want be italian - you go to Italy. Spanish? You go to Spain!
But if you want become jamaican, you don't ask Jamaica government to give you a passport and join your hous and garden to territory of Jamaica!

So your "nazi" accuse is completely ridiculous!
2014-03-26 18:30:47
I think that's what Washington and Berlin projected since their payed fake protest-leaders stardted to mess Ukraine during Sochi Winter Olympics

actualy they paid few million of ukrainins to start this "mess" just to annoy Putin! and all people that was on Maidan and died there was Washington and Berlin agents!
You'r wright mr.Putin!
2014-03-26 18:33:49
this guy speaks quikly and with his "nerd-looking" might seem smart... but is missing lots of crucial considerations and he's simply wrong with others.
Just to point the biggests, there're a lot of evidence that wasn't Yanukovich to decide to shot his own people. He completely missed to talk about the western interference, with leaders direclty speaking to the crowd in maidan. And he also avoided to talk about the far-right / fascists moviments.
But I agree in one thing: Ukraine must be free.
For those who are suggesting that I'm an anti-american (for example a dutchie euro-fanatic user of this forum), I quote now the point of view of Henry Kissinger:
The Washington Post - How the Ukraine crisis ends
Far too often the Ukrainian issue is posed as a showdown: whether Ukraine joins the East or the West. But if Ukraine is to survive and thrive, it must not be either side’s outpost against the other — it should function as a bridge between them.
[...]
That is the essence of the conflict between Viktor Yanu­kovych and his principal political rival, Yulia Tymo­shenko. They represent the two wings of Ukraine and have not been willing to share power. A wise U.S. policy toward Ukraine would seek a way for the two parts of the country to cooperate with each other. We should seek reconciliation, not the domination of a faction.
[...]
Leaders of all sides should return to examining outcomes, not compete in posturing. Here is my notion of an outcome compatible with the values and security interests of all sides:
1. Ukraine should have the right to choose freely its economic and political associations, including with Europe.
2. Ukraine should not join NATO, a position I took seven years ago, when it last came up.
3. Ukraine should be free to create any government compatible with the expressed will of its people. Wise Ukrainian leaders would then opt for a policy of reconciliation between the various parts of their country. Internationally, they should pursue a posture comparable to that of Finland. That nation leaves no doubt about its fierce independence and cooperates with the West in most fields but carefully avoids institutional hostility toward Russia.
2014-03-26 18:48:42
and goodbye to the rights of the people...
You know what? In my town - Brescia - 1.42% of the people are ukrainian. Why they don't go back to Ukraine? If they still want to be ukrainian then go back to Ukraine!
Of course I'm sarcastic with sentences like that, because people have rights, and anyone should live wherever he wants, tell whatever he wants and do whatever he wants according to the local laws.
Oh.....

Breaking With the West, Afghan Leader Supports Russia’s Annexation of Crimea

Hey... who's gonna to invade the afghani next???
2014-03-26 19:29:17
They may initiate a referendum to join your town to Ukraine. We'll send military to help them. And you'll live happy elsewhere!) It's normal!
2014-03-26 19:37:41
No dude, but if "german" people from South Tyrol will propose a referendum, as I already said, I'd really wish for them to reach what they want!
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2014-03-26 19:39:31
No dude
Why? You don't want?
2014-03-26 19:40:56
2014-03-26 19:53:20
c'mon... you can't be serious...
To move political argues in Italy you must be italian citizen.
But anyway, the right of the self determination is sacred. So if anyone wants to start a referendum, please go on! Then the majority will decide.
2014-03-26 20:04:36
c'mon... you can't be serious...
You'r serious in your... what ever is it... so why I can't be?

But anyway, the right of the self determination is sacred
Yes! Your free to determinate your way! but not the way of others!

So if anyone wants to start a referendum, please go on! Then the majority will decide.
Don't worry! With military help it will be easy to decide which way to go ;)
2014-03-26 20:06:43
You continue to focus on the word "military occupation".
I'm giving you a news: there is the army also in Italy! ;)