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where and when did america invade a place, to make it their own territory?

Russia did last month, this march 2014.

Sikorski also commented on the words of President Vladimir Putin, who in a telephone conversation with UN Secretary General Ban Ki Mun said that Moscow expects unequivocal condemnation by the UN anti-constitutional actions of the authorities of Ukraine to the east of the country. The Foreign Minister expressed his amazement: "I do not understand the logical structure, because Ukraine has the right to use force against armed, unidentified people who take over the airport. So I'd like to know which card point of the United Nations has been broken" - he said.
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Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said Friday (28 march 2014) that Russian President Vladimir Putin assured him he had no intention of making another military move into Ukraine following the annexation of Crimea.

...and if anyone remembers Putin at the begining of march 2014 had no idea, where those soldiers "separatists" are from?.. wink wink, lol ;-)



"If some unidentified men take control of a ukrainian airport, Ukraine has the right to take it back. On the other hand we don't know what Russia will do. Some of the information form russia seems to imply that if Ukrainie uses force on its own territory, Russia will use this as an excuse to invade" - Sikorski said.
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2014-04-16 08:47:38
"foreigners or pro-euromaidan" - nonsense.

Quoting USA Today about the CIA big boss White House: Brennan was in Kiev this weekend

Sen. John McCain to Ukrainian protesters: 'This is your moment'

[peaceful protest my ass...]

"Obama, Ashton or Merkel" are not making any decisions in the Ukrainian conflict, they are reacting to russian aggression. This is pure nonsense again, and misunderstanding of the actual situation, just replying the literal negation of a sound piont, almost exactly what russia's srategy in stealing ukrainian territory is all about.

Victoria Nuland's Admits Washington Has Spent $5 Billion to "Subvert Ukraine"

Leak of Nuland - Pyatt call. U.S. top officials agreed to assign new Prime Minister of Ukraine.


Then.... look... I understand you polish are pissed of with russians since 1500 and you're even more pissed off becouse of the USSR.
But I got a news for you: commies are no longer in charge in Russia since 1991.
Did they make atrocity, killed a lot of people and oppressed any kind of oppositions? Yes, of course.
But should we still blame Germany for nazism? Greece tried some 5 years ago to ask em a share of the payment for the WW2 crimes... We laught at Greece and imposed em the troika.

Russian army should have been demobilised in 1945 just like Hitler's army or more so, not allowed to concider themselves victims of hitler, and winners of so called "patriotic war" (wwII) in which they murdered much more lives that hitler.

Russia paid the highest blood tribute in WW2, and that's a fact
World War II casualties

And now they "only" stole Crimea.. because of russian speakers there...

I think you should have a closer look to Crimea before make sentences. You could start from here:
Autonomous Republic of Crimea In Independent Ukraine
on 17 March 1995, the parliament of Ukraine intervened, scrapping the Crimean Constitution and removing Yuriy Meshkov (the President of Crimea) along with his office for his actions against the state and promoting integration with Russia.[16] After an interim constitution, the current constitution was put into effect, changing the territory's name to the Autonomous Republic of Crimea.

I mean... what are we talking about?
Before you say that "this is up to ukrainian people", but somehow crimean people doesn't have the right to seced. Or you're arguing that we can't be sure right now that crimean people want to be part of russian federation?
Who want to see some eastern-ukrainian terrorist to have some brutal fight with the Kiev's army this morning???




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And who want to read some anti USA / anti semitic propaganda from a guy who just have a nobel prize in economy...?

JOSEPH E. STIGLITZ: On the Wrong Side of Globalization
2014-04-16 20:52:33
I'm still wondering what the hell you mean by 'I'm neutral, I don't support any side' .... You clearly love the Russian side and hate the US / EU side!

EDIT: Here you go, definition of neutral. That's not what you are, right?!! :/

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2014-04-16 21:10:52
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2014-04-16 21:21:36
I am home, I was 30km (work trip) from Ukraine borders today :-D.
But I dont see any fight, what a pity :-(

But I made nice pictures in "Dargov pass" of T34-85 and SU-100 :-). Wonderful russian tanks.
2014-04-17 09:11:03
Jesus rumpil, delete World of Tanks and realize that there is nothing wonderful in weapons. What a pity you didnt see any fight...you think this is somekind of a videogame with load/save/start new game?
2014-04-17 09:25:42
what a pity I can not see nothing in this dark video (our mainstream manipulated poor news can not afford solid video :-D )

2014-04-17 14:50:54
I remember Rumpil calling the pro maidan and anti russian protestors nazi's. I am wondering how Rumpil will judge about these Russian separist who founded the "republic of Donetsk" .

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donetsk-pro-russians-order-jews-register-be-deported-supporting-kiev-rule-1445111

The pro-russian separist wanna deports jews from donetsk...please use some military action against these idiots.
2014-04-17 15:52:27
Marcozea, look on this fun in video below.... :-D

2014-04-17 16:00:43
As usual, most of western guys never check information, if it is fake or not :-).

http://evreiskiy.kiev.ua/v-donecke-razdali-nacistskuju-13077.html

Leader of Doneck said that it is fake too and also on your link is this (it is updte :-D):
UPDATE: Pushilin has denied the Novosti Donbassa's report and assured reporters that the flyer is not from his organisation.

Now, how do you feel by your fool question, tell me :-DDD
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2014-04-17 19:54:32
If it's fake I was wrong :P
2014-04-17 20:09:31
no problem....checking information and making selection is hard ;-)

Who watch Putin interview today (questions form the public) and also Lavrov speech from Geneva ?

They explain a lot in TV but one thing/statement was very nice and can help to understand problem aslo for people here. I recommend you watch it but if you are lazy.... Lavrov said that everybody expect russia invasion in ukraine, but ukraine and its people are friend nation and "russia brothers", so such a decision would be one of the hardest one and their prefer diplomatic solution (but Kiev had to stop using forces and start talking too) West can fight everywhere, they are used to do it, but russia is not used to fight against brothers and friend countries.

:-) I hope you can throw out your western glasses and look on reality.
2014-04-17 21:12:32
west plan:
http://www.thestate.com/2014/04/17/3393151/text-of-joint-statement-on-ukraine.html




Ukraine reality :-D
So Much For The De-escalation? Kiev Says Military Operation In East Ukraine To Continue

Everyone knows that the half-life of these pointless diplomatic summits aimed at "de-escalating" geopolitical tensions is measured in days if not hours... But minutes? Moments ago from RT, and literally minutes after the final Geneva "agreement" was blasted, we get this: "Kiev says Military operation in Ukraine southeast to go on despite Geneva agreement." The agreement, which as a reminder, said "All sides must refrain from any violence, intimidation or provocative actions." That's right: not just "pro-Russian separatist terrorists", but all sides.
Despite calls for a peaceful dialogue in the document on Ukraine adopted in Geneva, the coup-imposed Ukrainian Foreign Minister said it will not affect the “anti-terrorist” operation in the East of the country and the troops will remain there.

Soon after the Geneva document, adopted at a four-side meeting between Ukraine, the US, the EU and Russia, was published, Ukraine’s acting Foreign Minister Andrey Deshchytsa said Kiev is not bound by its recommendations.

According to Deshchytsa cited by RIA Novosti, “the troops in the East of the country are carrying out a special operation and can remain where they are.”
So, everyone disarm as the same time... but the other side first.
2014-04-17 21:13:42
so most of guys from the west will write here tomorrow sth like this:

There was the deal made in Geneva by all sides, but Russian troops are still attacking.


:-DDDD am I right ?
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