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Sergey Lavrov's comments came after three pro-Russians were killed on Sunday in an exchange of fire with unknown attackers at a checkpoint set up by pro-Russians near the town of Slovyansk.

I expected more from you Rumpil...you just spreading russian propaganda again.

Ever taught of the option that russian elite troops killed the pro russians ? In order to have an excuse to invade east Ukraine or so that Russia can accuse Ukraine for violating geneva deal ?

Where are your brains ? You are all about conspiracy theory if it's about EU/USA but when it's your beloved mother Russia you simply can not see the possibility of a conspiracy theory...so sad..

Look few post behind, on that ugly video I post here. now it seems true, cos that man is really dead and body was found at this flat (as the video show). Russia and Lavrov can not accept such a fact, how can you call this russian propaganda??

You can not understand english ?

Let me put it this way for you : How do you know who are the killers ? were you there ? Can you guarantee that Elite troops of Russia have nothing to do with this ?

Do I need to explain basis warfare to you ?

What would benefit Russia in supporting an military operation in Ukraine ? think about it for some seconds...Russia needs chaos and pro russian dead soo they can say :"hey world look at ukraine they are violating the geneva negotiations" .

Do you understand ? Just like you always say when it comes to USA/EU not everything is what is seems at first hand.

Just to be clear : I am not saying my version is the truth. But it is an possibilty just like it's a good possibilty that they were killed by ukraine nationalist, but you just can not know for sure. Therefore you should not make propaganda for one side!

OK, video can be maybe fake. We had to wait. (I am using word "seems", cos yes, I am not 100% sure
That man is probably really dead, but video can be fake, just to abuse his death.

anyway members of pravy sector (that extremist far right party in ukraine) have very similar behavior. There are many videos where members of that party have its own uniform and are saying what they are and are making very aggressive steps in offices on east ukraine or during public protests.

"hey world look at ukraine they are violating the geneva negotiations" .
I think you didnt see/read the ukraine officials statement where MoFA (i suppose im, or somebody for government) strongly explain to their people that geneva negotiations are recommendations and not law and that demilitarizing is valid just for pro russian people, not for army or pravy sector. (by army I think not demilitarizing, but not using army against civil russian inhabitants protesting for its independence) This public statement broke everything what was sign in Geneva!
I hope you understand text in geneva deal. "all military groups" usually means all and not just pro russian :-)

Just like you always say when it comes to USA/EU not everything is what is seems at first hand.
I agree. Most of you guys use word It is... They did.. I used rather It seems and so...but yes, you have true.

USA admitted that they give 5 bilions USD for Ukraine to established "democracy" and that they are "help" Ukraine from 1991.
Russia comment this that such a help is usually called "money for changing regtime" :-).

The world can decide what is the real help. Public help which help whole country (like 50% discount for gas) or secret money giving to Ukraine for unknown reason :-)


But... the very important fact is, they this what US admit happend before MAIDAN !!!! So now it is not secret, that USA was behind everything.

Ukraine's diplomat said that they did not spend it for maidan (so it is prove when they get that money :-) )

so... we know that SOME (not all!!) people on maidan was paid, we know even how much and we know that it had to be financed from black money cos it was not state official action. And now we also know who was giving that black money to some Ukraine leaders. Just facts.....what to say more...

how is your theory about the soldiers that occupied Crimea? Putin confirmed that they were Russian special forces...:)

I never told anything about that soldiers, I didnt comment it. :-)

Ukrainian "regular" national defence guard spreading democracy in his country...

what do you mean by 'regular'?

that one paid by west :-DDD (not national, that one was canceled)

why do you think that they are paid by anyone, and why by west?

I mean standard / average brained and official ;)
But that's not the point.
The point is that nazis can do whatever they want in Ukraine right now. I'm warning this forum about this nazi/shit from 2 months. Nothing good could ever come allying with nazi groups. Nothing at all!!!

I was also writing about it when the Maidan started, but most people saw no harm and thought that I'm biased :))

Well if you put it that way, Ukraine looks alot like there big neighbour Russia. The only thing I find disturbing is that Putin only talks about the neo-nazi's in Ukraine while in his own country there are also huge problem with neo-nazi's.

Call them neo-Nazis. Not Nazis. I cannot see how a Slav, Ukrainian nationalist could be a Nazi, given the view of the Nazi-ideology on Slavs.

Correct.
The "banderatzis" usually forget slavic people was considered "sub-human" by nazis...