Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

I dont know why west and US have to support mad and ill men. Al qaeda - grow up by Americans, Lybia rebels were supported by both, US and EU and now they are support right sector in ukraine, cos Ukrainian army will not fight against own people and will not fight against russia, right sector yes, if west will supply him.

I can give you link, what a nacist party right sector is and you tell me why the west is supporting them.
Video is little ugly, so I will past it in two lines, little secure....

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You don't know why EU and USA support right sector Ukraine ? Ask the Russians, and they will tell you that it does not matter how you achieve ur goal, the important thing is that you achieve it.

Don't be so naive.

I only wonder if their goals are the same of ukrainian people..
because I can imagine they just don't care if they left a war open, a country detroyed or a divided people that will need decades to be pacified..

Well I don't think Russia or USA/EU really care about the people. Russia could end pretty much all of the trouble right now but that is not in there best interest.

EU/USA same they do not wanna give in to Russia so it goes on and on and on and on...

i agree, both parts are doing their business ignoring what people need.
How to stop this war?

united nation peacekeeping forces, atleast till are held some proper elections.

Today someone woke up, didn't know what to do,... think a little....
Ok, let's kill some random russian guys......

And Arseny Avakov on his facebook said that today they killed 20 terrorist.....
Have a look (if your stomach is hard enough) and tell me if this is a dengerous terrorist....

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And in front of this fascism (I really don't know what else could it be named), the reactions was to tell that Putin is a provocator, that he shouldn't be in Crimea now, that he's the bad guy.....
I'm really sick of this "Europe" :(
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Can we please make sure we keep this thread within the rules, we do not need vulgar videos or images being posted, even if they are age restricted.

I'm sorry but I didn't directly posted the link.
I could say (and I'm saying it now): go to youtube and search for "mariupol". And then watch the daily video.
Am I allowed to say this?
Should we turn our heads elseway and suppose we saw nothing?

There are many websites on the internet where people can go to watch such inhumane images (i agree with you, what is happening is terrible), however Sokker isn't the place to post such things to that extent.

I don't have an issue with the topic being discussed, i just don't think we need to start posting links to where we see lives being taken.

The rules state;
- to post or present material that is designated as illegal on this family-oriented site (i.e. to present any racist, fascist, or pornographic material

For me the main word there is 'family-oriented'. I don't think we should turn our heads, and that is not what i am saying we should do, i just simply request it is discussed without the graphic and gruesome videos/images.

I know you didn't directly post the link, and i suspect that was very much for the reason above, but links can be just as damaging as posting the video itself.
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You don't know why EU and USA support right sector Ukraine ? Ask the Russians, and they will tell you that it does not matter how you achieve ur goal, the important thing is that you achieve it.

Don't be so naive.

Your media did a great job and your nativity are unbelievable. So you think that right sector is connected with russia :-D ?

Do you realize what did you say now ?
You told me this:

Ukrainian government hate Russia. Russia support right sector and ukrainian army is helping them.
:-DDD

I will correct your bad thinking, reality is that Ukrainian government hate Russia so they support right sector cos this nacist party is the only one power which is able to make some fight with russia (cos army will not kill own people). Do you need prove that ukrainian officals support right sector? Watch it yourself, this video you will never see in your manipulated news. Look that right sector and man who burn that building in Odessa are supported by Ukrainian police!!!

Learn to read, before you post Rumpil. Because you clearly did not understand what i said. My point was that USA EU just like Russia will do everything to reach there goals, and therefore its hipocrite to just accuse west like you always do. To bad you do not see that you are the one who is being manipulated.

Besides that are you really that stupid to think you are the only one who is watching news that is not manipulated ?.


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ok, but next time write your opinions more clear :-)

So the Maidan radicals are using Red Cross cars to move around...very nice.

"Several cars from the Red Cross organization were used to transport activists of the Right Sector radical movement, Donetsk city self-defense told RIA Novosti.

“They were driving the Right Sector activists in those cars all across the region,” a self-defense spokesman told journalists on Saturday.

Anti-government activists have been tracking the cars since April 14, gathering evidence that the vehicles were used for disguise by the radicals. The Right Sector group was using the cars at night, changing drivers, they said. Portable radio transmitters and spare Ukrainian number plates have been found inside the vehicles, when they were seized by the self-defense forces.
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The detained people posing as Red Cross members had only printed out badges as IDs and could not answer basic question on medicine, the self-defense spokesman said"

This news is quite similar to this....



But do we really need to talk about this bulshit, when we're in the middle of a pogrom???