Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

giving some rights and giving an autonomy are two different things, dont try make bad meaning of russian statments :-).

Slovakia gave a lot of right to its minorities too, but no autonomy of course.

Of course, they had autonomy a couple of weeks before. So probably they said: Let's vote to join Russia (like everyone else), so we can lose our autonomy! It's fun! :D

But, what do you mean, by some rights? That they don't get instantly shot at? Because their commemoration for the victims of Stalinism was banned. In normal places that should be pretty basic human rights. Of course, Russia is not a very civilized place.

lol.......

Are you sure this isn't a photo of the illegal Russian referendum in Crimea?


And about the current election, you 'forgot' to post some news:



www.brookings.edu - A Critical Vote in Ukraine

Over the past month, groups of armed separatists, some with apparent support and leadership from Russia, have seized dozens of police stations, city halls and regional government centers in Donetsk and Luhansk. The groups have vowed to block the presidential election, and there are reports of armed men intimidating election officials, preventing the preparation of voting stations, and stealing ballot papers. While some in Donetsk and Luhansk may be able to vote, the guys with guns will likely prevent many from doing so.

(edited)

@diamanti
how about without the red circle... look for yourself...! lol. enlarge if you need to.



ps: It's a bent sheet, not a pile of sheets. (just in case, anyone is still blinded)

as for crimea: the stance is clear, single theiving country vs rest of the world.
UN Security Council vote to condemn Crimean referendum

or: International response to ‘Referendum’ in Crimea
(edited)

Sad, it's very sad what's going on there...

http://sovietoutpost.revdisk.org/?p=127

Yeh, right .... Russia and propaganda, see www.stopfake.org.

Donetsk is photoshopped-burning



The real picture

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-02/deadly-ukraine-figher-jet-bombing-caught-tape

Ukraine bombarding their own civilians... :(
(edited)

It's really really sad what you're trying to do, seriusly.
Becouse in front of the evidence of what's happening, whit thousends of people slaughtered by their own governament, you're arguing about a supposed fake picture...

Fake picture are everywhere, but mostly in Ukraine. Watch this, for exemple:
Ukrainian media "Obozrevatel" saying "Crimea today"


And where the picture has been taken... in the US...
Food Price Inflation

You see? This game is totally useless. Useful just to troll.

I'm sorry but who do such things, is blinded by propaganda or is in bad faith.
If you search some yesterday's Lugansk video, you can see how the slaughter is real, and it's not about some army dude, it's the normal people. I'm not direct posting it, becouse is as brutal as Odessa massacre, but this time it's the "regular" ukrainian army who bombed is own citizens...

RT News? Come on! At least try to Google up something, that's not the official Russian propaganda! I'm sure there are loads of non-official pro-Russian sites too.

I can only link Western propaganda like this one:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/05/ukraine-general-dies-as-helicopter-shot-down-201452994710852507.html

But I don't believe what it says. I think the helicopter shot down itself. It committed suicide because of the shame, it had to belong to the nazi Ukrainian army. There are definitely no armed pro-Russian forces with Russian anti-air missiles, occupying Eastern-Ukraine.

(I wonder if Ponomarev counts as a civilian. Four international observers enjoy his hospitality again. They're not abducted at all, and they feel very well. I guess they have a lot of fun with the peaceful civilians.)

They shoot down an heli who was bombing them. So what?
Are you suggesting russian are supplying weapons to ucrainian separatists?
Ok, maybe they're doing it, but I see no evidence.
What I see is the evidence of ucrainian officials using UN helis, shooting to ambulances, shooting and bombing civilians.
May I ask you what's your opinion about Obama supplying weapons to sirian rebels who fight against Assad??? (I'm just curious, eh...)

a supposed fake picture...

Not supposed, it IS a fake picture. And not 1 picture, it is a full out Russian propaganda war. But it is Russian propaganda so you support it, you made that already clear enough!

And stop the 'people are suffering' part and just stay with your part of the story, the 'Ukraine government is killing', because that's what you really want to say.

I'm quite disappointed...
I was expecting you to post some of your stupid trolling gif...
Are you ok, Charlie?

They shoot down an heli who was bombing them. So what?

But...how? I mean, if things go wrong in Italy, you have an extra anti-air-missile under your bed?

Well done btw, to use the word troll in that way, and not as a direct insult. You are a true rule bending forum master!!! :/


EDIT: I was wrong, not a true master. There is the provoking part again. It's a shame ....

I'm quite disappointed...
I was expecting you to post some of your stupid trolling gif...
Are you ok, Charlie?

(edited)

But...how? I mean, if things go wrong in Italy, you have an extra anti-air-missile under your bed?

That's not the point.
First... how?... I don't know. I destroyed so many heli playing GTA, but I don't really know how it works in real life.
The point is that ok, we can assume russian supplyed missiles... Since now, we only know for sure americans are supplying weapons to rebels in Siria.

Since now, we only know for sure ukrainian national guard killed cold blod many citizens, shoot ambulances, used UN helis...
So, could we really blame Russia if (and I mean if) they're somehow supporting secessionists in eastern Ukraine?