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Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

2014-06-04 13:50:08
I almost started to give you some answers until I realized what you have written: 'and that doing this USA and UE won't continue this invasion war in other Russian colonies?'

Russian colonies?? USA and EU invasions??

And you tell me to wake up?? Please ...


OK,
do you realize that the sovereignty of some country is a "little" less strong than other, that their decisions are often justified or permitted by a more powerful country?
did ou ever realized that in international contexts (as UN council) some country vote ALWAYS as some other more powerful country?
did you ever ask yourself why it happens?

did you ever asked yourself why the weapon of the army of those country are always buyed from the more powerful ally?
did you ever notice how the companies from the more powerful country do often great business in those zones?

If you really don't accept it, that the tale of the sovereign and independent nations is just a tale..
well I think we are not in the same reality and we can't discuss anymore.

on the contrary, if you recognize it..
what can happen if a powerful country PAYS for creating a rebellion in a country controlled by another powerful country?
A civil war (where both sides are financed by foreign powers), and Ukraine is a perfect example of it.

who to blame?
what a stupid question? why should I prefer one from the occupier or the invader?

what to do? that's a good question. But facing reality.. not in your tales..
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2014-06-04 13:57:50
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2014-06-04 14:29:33
many people lives well because of american policy, including me ( with money from israel and i believe is God will )..this is the point of view for all and this is subjectively..western of europe is strong but without americans is zero

that is an opinion I can accept.
but you know USA are dominating a lot of countries, not dor every one of that list you can say the same..

anyway, if a peaceful solution for Ukraine ruled by USA (or Tagikistan, or russia, or Italy, or Romani) were possible I could easily accept it.
But it's easy to understand that it is impossible..

So I 'm back again: a realistic solution is?
2014-06-04 23:35:28
i deleted the message because is too much to say, God's will
2014-06-05 04:34:46
well, "arab spring" is something we must know a little before to state that USA don't started it.

Proof? Reason why USA would want to switch Mubarak regime to Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt? Mubarak was an ally of the USA, and they've spent loads of money to support it. MB wasn't known for it's pro-American sentiment. In the first weeks American diplomacy didn't react anything. So what was behind the curtains?
2014-06-05 05:04:52
but you know USA are dominating a lot of countries, not dor every one of that list you can say the same..

Well, if I ever gonna leave Hungary, I'll only move into a country in the Western sphere of influence. I'd never want to live in Belarus or Kazakhstan for example, even if Kazakhstan does quite well economically. When Russians claim, that they give more sovereignity to their satellites, that usually mean they give support for the local leadership to oppress their own people.

So I 'm back again: a realistic solution is?

What do you think? I think it's still possible to get out of this without a really serious civil war in Ukraine, and another cold war for the next decades. Russia has already turned a bit towards China, but it's not their interest to fully depend on them. And in a cold war they would be only a secondary power behind them, they need someone to buy their raw materials, otherwise, they're screwed.

Europe would also do much better without confrontation, so I think they won't really try to separate Russia. Sanctions until now are just for the public, they have no real effect. The West even keeps supplying Russia with weapons.
2014-06-05 08:49:28
Proof?

let's start from something everybody knows. I'll take it from wikipedia.

The U.S. provides annual military assistance to the Egyptian Armed Forces. In 2009, the U.S. provided nominal $1.3 billion to the Egyptian military ($1.43 billion in 2014).[19][20] Much of this is in equipment such as tanks and jet fighters that are surplus to Egyptian needs and kept in storage.[21] (wiki)

US had always decided who's egyptian army support by founding directly the army itself, and by that giving those generals the power to be very persuasive vs their governement.
at the end of the arab spring they RAISED their founding.

Reason why USA would want to switch Mubarak regime to Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt? Mubarak was an ally of the USA, and they've spent loads of money to support it.

There are a lot of good reason to change persons (the first is that a long time power is dangerous because of lack of internal consensus and you can prefer to lead the change in a choosen direction), anyway, that's not the point.
the point is that if you inform a little you'll find a lot of strange thing (as for example the fact that "social media " were not filtered during the protests.. and we all know who control them..).

there are a lot of licterature about the art of changing the government of a country without using your soldier into. Not everything goes always the way they project it, but we must be aware that the "revolutions" are not what tv show us..
2014-06-05 09:51:05
Ukrainian Air Force Caught Bombing Civilians - OSCE Confirms

The Ukrainian military has been caught on video from multiple sources bombing civilians in Lugansk, Ukraine, but just in case you were skeptical we now have a confirmation from the OSCE. Washington's response? Give them more money.

how was the story of Putin supplying Assad's army...???
2014-06-05 10:13:24
Well, if I ever gonna leave Hungary, I'll only move into a country in the Western sphere of influence.

All the World is in the "western sphere of influence" but North Korea, China and maybe some taliban-arab countries (maybe just Siria and Iran)...
So it was also Russia before Putin with his drunkard predecessor.
The problem is that everytime in history someone dared to say he doesn't want no more his country to be under american influence, was accused to be a dangerous nazi-fascio-comunist-terrorist, and replaced with a more compliant dictator...
2014-06-05 14:46:12
2014-06-05 23:51:12
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2014-06-09 20:11:05
2014-06-09 21:29:54
Where are the Russia and separatists violations letters? I have seen these letters on that site, so why don't you post those also??

And separatists using human shields, nothing about that?

Will the pro Russian separatist fanatic stop the selective posting??!!

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2014-06-10 04:30:12
Bravo! That's exactly the point! ;)

2014-06-10 04:50:23
So what do you think about this then?

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/05/23/ukraine-anti-kiev-forces-running-amok

I think both articles are probably true. Do you agree?
2014-06-10 10:13:38
What is the point? All that is said about the pro Russian separatists is lies (because you support these pro Russian separatists) but everything bad about the other side (which you don't support) is true? Hope you aren't going to claim such complete nonsense, that would really make you a joker.


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