Subject: »NEWS AROUND THE WORLD

Heard of the Arab spring and will of the people?

And maybe some citizens kick out the dictator because he is crazy and kills/gas part of the citizens while other dictators aren't that bad (yet)? I don't know why, ask the citizens of that country why they don't do it.

And the rest of your posts are so oversimplified, and because of that just meaningless words like many other posts in this topic. You are talking about international politics with many interests. And yes ISIS is not a fun and nice organisation, but on the other hand the Sunni never had this much support in Iraq after Saddam, and the Kurds finally have cities of their own without the Shiite Iraqi army around. So this ISIS situation is bad for who? in politics bad for one group is often good for other group or groups ....

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Some russian propaganda....... from CNN

you are just rude and fanatic
with fanatics we cant do a normal discuasion

i answer you about crazy dictators who like a child you told that was the reason and now you are saying... nonses!
you can support halifat isis, or crazy dictators like saudi, katar etc
its your right but dont tell us about democracy and dictators

Over 160 Palestinians killed, mostly innocent citizens and many are women and children ... I thought you cared about the people so I now I'm wondering, why don't you post about this ongoing genocide?

And for Ukraine: amnesty.org - Ukraine: Mounting evidence of abduction and torture

Us? You mean 'I'. Talk for yourself.

And if you call my post fanatic because I call your words oversimplifing international politics, then you haven't even read it. But that's fine by me, go on. And keep coping my words and think you can 'cleverly' use it against me as if you are really smart, also fine by me ...

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Becouse Jimceasar is already posting and he is goddam right!

I'm not surprised you agree. Hopefully for Jimceasar he is still able to realize who support his posts ...
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oversimplifying is "the crazy dictators" and i gave examples with allyed states of usa with authoritarian regimes which there is ok!
I also told you about oils, about the islamists which support usa and allies and you was keeping teling stupidity!
you are a rude fanatic, a ban for a month would be great, may you return more polite...

Wow, all those things mentioned in less then 10 sentences. That's indeed not oversimplifing it at all .... I'm impressed :/
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making new friends again Charles? :)

Untrusty people and liars will never become my friends :)

Lets discuss the facts, leave that "crazy dictator " (who was btw. shaking hands with all western politicians for many years) for yourself:

FACTS:

Under Gaddafi:
1. Libya was the richest country in Africa, exported 1.5 million barrels of oil a day.
2. Lybia had almost no foreign debt.
3. Lybia built underground water supply to be self sufficient with fresh water, Great Manmade River.
4. Free housing for every Lybian (yes, they got the apartment from the state free, rent-free)
5. Free education
6. Free healthcare
7. Free electricity
8. 0% interest on state loans to citizens
9. Everybody had a job
10. Free land for farmers, rent-free, state provided equipment to take care of land - free
11. Newly married couples received $50.000 gift from state to help starting a new life.
12. Government subsidized 1/2 cost of a new car.
13. All Libyans were getting a share from the money received from oil - into their bank accounts.
14. Each newborn Libyan received $5,000 gift from state.

After Gaddafi:
1. Libya sank down to the level of other poor countries, exports around 200K barrels of oil a day.
2. Lybia is losing $7 billion a month, government has to borrow money for everyday functioning.
3. Great Manmade River was destroyed by "accidental allied bombing", Libya has to buy fresh water from Italy and France. Also the factory servicing repairs on the water project was bombed out to the ground.
4. Houses were destroyed by "civil war", no more free houses.
5. No more free education.
6. Nonexistent healthcare mostly provided by Red Cross volunteers.
7. No more free electricity
8. It's hard to get a loan these days, banks are nonfunctional
9. There are few jobs, mostly in oil industry (if there's no shooting around).
10. Most of the farms and equipment were destroyed, food is imported from E.U..
11. Is it reasonable to even start a family?
12. No subsidy on the cars anymore.
13. The money from oil is going into few chosen pockets only.
14. Why would anyone want to bring a child in Libya?

Tell me more about how West brought prosperity to Libya.

Please discuss point by point from 1 to 14, no internal feelings or "they have freedom now" statements, just plain facts, please.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/three-years-after-gaddafi-libya-is-imploding-into-chaos-and-violence-9194697.html
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The Return of George Orwell and Big Brother’s War. On Israel, Ukraine and Truth
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Why do you people keep doing this? Did you make up these before and after lists yourself, or did you ask someone who was part of the Gaddafi tribe how live was under the dictatorship of Gaddafi?? Or did you use some pro-Gaddafi propaganda website, maybe a friend-of-Russia website perhaps?

As you make it look like, it was a real paradise. Strange not everyone around the world, including you, moved to that great place, and even more strange the people stood up and kicked out the dictator while life was so wonderful with Gaddafi ........... Or are you lying?

EDIT: and unfortunatly no one can know how things will become after a dictator is kicked out. Sometimes it goes better (almost) from the moment of change, but sometimes it takes longer as different groups want to take over controle. For critics and dumb people it is easy to blame everyone afterwards when it isn't better right away or within a few months, but these same people didn't know either what was going to happen when the proces started.

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Ah, a website that is going to tell me the truth .... posted by you :/