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It is true, that I think that Russia made a big step ahead under Putin. But... Russia is not country where I would like live in :-).
It is also true that I feel ashamed for war activities made by EU.
If I would go to Ukraine on my car, I would not get too far cos there are thousands of people who want to be alive and not killed by UK army after they refuse serve them, so they would beg me to take them away and save their lifes. So I would not have a chance to help to people on the east.
It is also true that I feel ashamed for war activities made by EU.
If I would go to Ukraine on my car, I would not get too far cos there are thousands of people who want to be alive and not killed by UK army after they refuse serve them, so they would beg me to take them away and save their lifes. So I would not have a chance to help to people on the east.
The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.
“A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday.
“A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday.
:-)
I hope ,they will understand it and I will not be force answer on their primitive insults.
And yes I am mad, cos I dont think that people in Irak, Lybia or Kosovo(Serbia) have better life after EU destroy them.
I will always stand for peace and right for life and also freedom of speech, no matter that this ideals gone aways cos people are brainwashed by media. Moral values and good manners are much more valuable than opinions of sheep.
I hope ,they will understand it and I will not be force answer on their primitive insults.
And yes I am mad, cos I dont think that people in Irak, Lybia or Kosovo(Serbia) have better life after EU destroy them.
I will always stand for peace and right for life and also freedom of speech, no matter that this ideals gone aways cos people are brainwashed by media. Moral values and good manners are much more valuable than opinions of sheep.
I am not saying that's the definite proof but U.S. Should publish the data they have. Russians just did it.
RUSSIAN GENERAL STAFF HAS SPACE IMAGES OF SECTORS OF UKRAINIAN FORCES' POSITIONS IN SOUTHEASTERN UKRAINE, INCLUDING BUK MISSILE LUNCH SITES 8 KILOMETERS FROM LUHANSK - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY - interfax
RUSSIA SAYS U.S. SATELLITE FLEW OVER MH17 AT TIME IT WAS DOWNED... which would provide all the proof needed to show who is responsible - so why hasn't the US explained this or shown it?
RUSSIA ASKS U.S. FOR EVIDENCE ROCKET FIRED FROM REBEL-HELD AREA
RUSSIA: NO U.S. PROOF THAT MISSILE FIRED FROM REBEL-HELD AREA
DEFENCE MINISTRY SAYS RUSSIA DID NOT DELIVER ANY SA-11 BUK MISSILE SYSTEMS TO SEPARATISTS IN EASTERN UKRAINE "OR ANY OTHER WEAPONS"
unbelievable....
The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.
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LOOK on this! Kiev news was writing about this too, but article is now deleted, just google link prove it :-dD
SBU releases more conversions implicating Russia in ...
https://www.kyivpost.com/.../ukraine/sbu-releases-m...Preložiť túto stránku
pred 3 dňami - The conversations allegedly took place between Russian military intelligence ... On July 16, a Ukrainian Su-25 fighter jet was allegedly shot down by an air-to-air ... This type of missile cannot be detected by the Su–25's SPO–15 radiation .... BBC: Malaysia airliner crashes in east Ukraine near Russia border ...
https://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/sbu-releases-more-conversions-implicating-russia-in-shooting-down-malaysia-airlines-flight-video-transcript-356776.html
The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.
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LOOK on this! Kiev news was writing about this too, but article is now deleted, just google link prove it :-dD
SBU releases more conversions implicating Russia in ...
https://www.kyivpost.com/.../ukraine/sbu-releases-m...Preložiť túto stránku
pred 3 dňami - The conversations allegedly took place between Russian military intelligence ... On July 16, a Ukrainian Su-25 fighter jet was allegedly shot down by an air-to-air ... This type of missile cannot be detected by the Su–25's SPO–15 radiation .... BBC: Malaysia airliner crashes in east Ukraine near Russia border ...
https://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/sbu-releases-more-conversions-implicating-russia-in-shooting-down-malaysia-airlines-flight-video-transcript-356776.html
If I would go to Ukraine on my car, I would not get too far cos there are thousands of people who want to be alive and not killed by UK army after they refuse serve them, so they would beg me to take them away and save their lifes. So I would not have a chance to help to people on the east.
10 question from Russia to Ukraine:
1. Ukrainian authorities immediately identified the militia as the perpetrators of the tragedy. What is the basis of such findings?
2. Could official Kiev to report all the details of using [BUKs] in a war zone? Most importantly - why these systems are deployed there, as the militia have no planes?
3. What are the causes of inactivity of Ukrainian authorities on the formation of an international commission? When such a committee will work?
4. Are the armed forces of Ukraine international experts to present papers on accounting for missiles, air-to-air and ground-to-air ammo and anti-aircraft missiles?
5. Whether these funds objective control on the movement of the Ukrainian Air Force aircraft on the day of the tragedy brought international commission?
6. Why Ukrainian air traffic controllers allowed deviation of the route of the aircraft to the north side of the "anti-terrorist operation zone"?
7. Why was not completely closed to civilian aircraft airspace over the combat zone, especially because in this area there was no solid field of radar navigation?
8. Could official Kiev to comment on reports in the net, ostensibly on behalf of the Spanish air traffic controllers working in Ukraine, which shot down over the territory of Ukraine "Boeing" was accompanied by two Ukrainian military aircraft?
9. Why Security Service of Ukraine has begun without international representatives work with recordings of talks with Ukrainian crew dispatchers "Boeing" and Ukrainian radar data?
10. How were the lessons from previous similar disasters Russian Tu-154 in 2001 in the Black Sea? Then the leaders of Ukraine until the last minute denied any involvement of the Armed Forces of the country to the tragedy until irrefutable evidence showed no guilt official Kiev.
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1. Ukrainian authorities immediately identified the militia as the perpetrators of the tragedy. What is the basis of such findings?
2. Could official Kiev to report all the details of using [BUKs] in a war zone? Most importantly - why these systems are deployed there, as the militia have no planes?
3. What are the causes of inactivity of Ukrainian authorities on the formation of an international commission? When such a committee will work?
4. Are the armed forces of Ukraine international experts to present papers on accounting for missiles, air-to-air and ground-to-air ammo and anti-aircraft missiles?
5. Whether these funds objective control on the movement of the Ukrainian Air Force aircraft on the day of the tragedy brought international commission?
6. Why Ukrainian air traffic controllers allowed deviation of the route of the aircraft to the north side of the "anti-terrorist operation zone"?
7. Why was not completely closed to civilian aircraft airspace over the combat zone, especially because in this area there was no solid field of radar navigation?
8. Could official Kiev to comment on reports in the net, ostensibly on behalf of the Spanish air traffic controllers working in Ukraine, which shot down over the territory of Ukraine "Boeing" was accompanied by two Ukrainian military aircraft?
9. Why Security Service of Ukraine has begun without international representatives work with recordings of talks with Ukrainian crew dispatchers "Boeing" and Ukrainian radar data?
10. How were the lessons from previous similar disasters Russian Tu-154 in 2001 in the Black Sea? Then the leaders of Ukraine until the last minute denied any involvement of the Armed Forces of the country to the tragedy until irrefutable evidence showed no guilt official Kiev.
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17.07.14 ance of shot down of AN-26 by "rebels"
same
DEFENCE MINISTRY SAYS RUSSIA DID NOT DELIVER ANY SA-11 BUK MISSILE SYSTEMS TO SEPARATISTS IN EASTERN UKRAINE "OR ANY OTHER WEAPONS"
and also other equipment…
TOP 5 Russian version
1 Ukrainian confused plane with plain of Putin that held from Warsaw to Moscow
Just check the map
2 Tweet of Carlos
Carlos works in Borispol airport ant tracked Malasian Boing, but even if he works there, Boing was already out of his duty and was tracked by Dnepropetrovsk, not Kiev. And why Carlos doesn't confirm his identity?
3 Version, which will undoubtedly claim the first place in the fantastic and long resort to a psychiatric hospital for its author: stale corpses. Shooter (Strelok) through the social network said that the plane was a dummy and stuffed of corpses, no living passengers were there. Of living people on board were pilots only.
4 In the airspace of Ukraine flew Boeing 777 MH370 not tail number 9M-MRD, but missing in March Boeing 777 MH370 9M-MRO
by E.Rachkova russian reporter
5 Ukrainian and US forces saboted the flaygh an force it to fly over rebel territory.
same
DEFENCE MINISTRY SAYS RUSSIA DID NOT DELIVER ANY SA-11 BUK MISSILE SYSTEMS TO SEPARATISTS IN EASTERN UKRAINE "OR ANY OTHER WEAPONS"
and also other equipment…
TOP 5 Russian version
1 Ukrainian confused plane with plain of Putin that held from Warsaw to Moscow
Just check the map
2 Tweet of Carlos
Carlos works in Borispol airport ant tracked Malasian Boing, but even if he works there, Boing was already out of his duty and was tracked by Dnepropetrovsk, not Kiev. And why Carlos doesn't confirm his identity?
3 Version, which will undoubtedly claim the first place in the fantastic and long resort to a psychiatric hospital for its author: stale corpses. Shooter (Strelok) through the social network said that the plane was a dummy and stuffed of corpses, no living passengers were there. Of living people on board were pilots only.
4 In the airspace of Ukraine flew Boeing 777 MH370 not tail number 9M-MRD, but missing in March Boeing 777 MH370 9M-MRO
by E.Rachkova russian reporter
5 Ukrainian and US forces saboted the flaygh an force it to fly over rebel territory.
"As was the case a century ago, vain and ignorant leaders are pushing into battle without clear purpose or realistic prospects for resolution of the underlying political, economic, social, or ecological factors that are creating the tensions in the first place."
An interesting piece
An interesting piece
2,3,8 and especially 9 is the prove who make this tragedy.
And it is very poor fabricated reason who get nato fighting against russia.
And it is very poor fabricated reason who get nato fighting against russia.
need to have very poor intellect to believe that Ukrainian forces shot down Malasian plain with 300 people just to accuse pro-russian rebels and ask NATO for help… or don't have it at all
We have posted previous flight paths here already:
http://online.sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/1260/ID_topic/2368667/pg/636
Where did you get your image from?
http://online.sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/1260/ID_topic/2368667/pg/636
Where did you get your image from?
On the CBS program “Face the Nation,” Mr. Kerry referred to a video that the Ukrainians have made public showing an SA-11 unit heading back to Russia after the downing of the plane with “a missing missile or so.”
The video referenced by the New York Times was, in fact, posted on the Facebook account of the Ukrainian Interior Minister. The allegation was that the launcher was crossing the border with Russia.
However, going by the billboard and other features of the scenery, Russian bloggers and news sources claim to have identified the road in the video as having been taken in or near the town of Krasnoarmeisk ("Krasnoarmiysk" in Ukrainian), which has been under Kiev's control since May.
In fact, the billboard is supposedly advertising a Krasnoarmeisk car dealership. Also, one of the structures in the background is said to be a construction materials store on Gorkii Street, Krasnoarmeisk.
Please note that this town is (very roughly) 120 kilometers from the Russian border and 80 kilometers from where the Malaysian 777 went down. And again, it has been under Kiev's control since May.
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The video referenced by the New York Times was, in fact, posted on the Facebook account of the Ukrainian Interior Minister. The allegation was that the launcher was crossing the border with Russia.
However, going by the billboard and other features of the scenery, Russian bloggers and news sources claim to have identified the road in the video as having been taken in or near the town of Krasnoarmeisk ("Krasnoarmiysk" in Ukrainian), which has been under Kiev's control since May.
In fact, the billboard is supposedly advertising a Krasnoarmeisk car dealership. Also, one of the structures in the background is said to be a construction materials store on Gorkii Street, Krasnoarmeisk.
Please note that this town is (very roughly) 120 kilometers from the Russian border and 80 kilometers from where the Malaysian 777 went down. And again, it has been under Kiev's control since May.
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