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diamanti, omg... :-D again... "nigga please..." ;-p "you should compare this map with one of the 1989." lol, your lack of understanding history of eastern europe is astounding, if you write things like this.
Have you any concept at all, of communist russia, and their ways?
it is 100% clear that russians with their ideology are, and for at least the last 200 years, always were the bullies in the region... and not only there... no white convoy stunt, is going to change that... or indeed distruct anyone (except poor RT russian public viewers) from the actual movements of russian military.
Russian military vehicles crossed border
(this is an act of agression! / war by russian on Ukraine, nothing to add)
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Have you any concept at all, of communist russia, and their ways?
it is 100% clear that russians with their ideology are, and for at least the last 200 years, always were the bullies in the region... and not only there... no white convoy stunt, is going to change that... or indeed distruct anyone (except poor RT russian public viewers) from the actual movements of russian military.
Russian military vehicles crossed border
(this is an act of agression! / war by russian on Ukraine, nothing to add)
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just a copy-paste from the first comment...
Oh dear.. first words "ukraine claims.." let me grab the popcorn
Oh dear.. first words "ukraine claims.." let me grab the popcorn
dude, you are seriously out of touch... even the separatists themselves confirm that they got support from the russian army... get a grip, instead of popcorn.
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Ah, the pro-russian propaganda is comming again! Are you going to copy all shit from the russian main stream again and start lying you don't use main stream??
Who need propaganda if blinded people don't want to see what is really happening or even make up the lies themself, even if the ones they support admit otherwise? Why do you do that??
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Girnik’s Resignation – “Seems to Be Dead”
by Andriy Nurzhynskyy on August 15, 2014
According to a source in the ATO headquarters, the leader of the militant DNR/DPR (the Donetsk People’s Republic) Girkin is either killed or in very heavy condition, what is evidenced by his sudden resignation from the post of DNR Minister of Defense. Most likely he will be never seen again. The unnamed source also said that Girkin had been killed or wounded as a result of the operation of special units of Ukrainian ATO forces.
That would be good news!
by Andriy Nurzhynskyy on August 15, 2014
According to a source in the ATO headquarters, the leader of the militant DNR/DPR (the Donetsk People’s Republic) Girkin is either killed or in very heavy condition, what is evidenced by his sudden resignation from the post of DNR Minister of Defense. Most likely he will be never seen again. The unnamed source also said that Girkin had been killed or wounded as a result of the operation of special units of Ukrainian ATO forces.
That would be good news!
Ukraine president claims Russian vehicles that crossed border have been destroyed
President Petro Poroshenko tells David Cameron that forces have destroyed part of military convoy seen entering territory
A Ukrainian soldier prepares a mortar behind the frontline near Illovaisk, in the Donetsk region. Photograph: Evgeniy Maloletka/AP
Ukraine claims it has destroyed Russian military vehicles in the country's east, a day after a column was spotted moving across the border.
Ukraine's president, Petro Poroshenko, told David Cameron by phone that his country's armed forces had destroyed part of an armed convoy that the Guardian saw moving through a gap in a border fence on Thursday night.
There was no immediate proof, and it was impossible to establish if the Ukrainians had targeted the same convoy seen by the Guardian. The Russians categorically denied that any of their troops were even in Ukraine. But the claim marks a new escalation in the six-month confrontation over Ukraine and if verified would amount to the first confirmed military engagement between the two adversaries since the crisis began in the spring.
"The president informed [Cameron] that the information was trustworthy because the majority of those machines [Russian military vehicles] had been eliminated by the Ukrainian artillery at night," a statement from Poroshenko's office read.
A White House spokesman said last night: "The escalation in Russian activity designed to destabilise Ukraine in recent weeks is extremely dangerous and provocative."
The Guardian and Telegraph witnessed the convoy crossing through a gap in a wire demarcation fence on Thursday night, close to the village of Severny on the Ukrainian side. The convoy had waited by the side of the road several miles away until darkness fell, and then moved towards the border. As it crossed the fenced area armed men stood guard. It was impossible to verify the destination or ultimate fate of the convoy, or monitor how long it stayed on the other side of the border.
Lorries which Russia says are carrying humanitarian aid for Ukraine waiting near the border for approval to enter the country. Photograph: ITAR-TASS/Barcroft Media
Russian aid convoy Lorries which Russia says are carrying humanitarian aid for Ukraine waiting near the border for approval to enter the country. Photograph: ITAR-TASS/Barcroft Media
Nato said it had observed the Russian incursion. "What we have seen last night is the continuation of what we have seen for some time," said the Nato secretary general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen. The reports drew swift international reaction. The Russian ambassador in London was summoned to the Foreign Office, and the foreign secretary, Philip Hammond, said he was "very alarmed" and that any incursion could have serious consequences.
Russia strongly denied any incursion. The FSB security service said it was in fact a mobile response team of border guards operating strictly within Russia's borders. A spokesperson for the FSB Border Guard Service in Rostov region told Russia Today: "When residents report about cross-border shooting and fighting in the frontier zone, these teams are immediately deployed to such areas to provide the safety of the Russian state border and Russian citizens, and also to prevent armed people from crossing into the territory of the Russian Federation."
President Vladimir Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov called the reports "fake". Russian defence ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said: "No Russian military column crossed the Russian-Ukrainian border by night or by day. It would be better if the Ukrainian artillery destroyed a phantom, rather than refugees or its own soldiers."
On Friday the Guardian again travelled to the site of the crossing to look at the area in daylight. A fence which demarcates the border and runs along the outer suburbs of the Russian border town of Donetsk is permeated by informal crossings and dirt tracks. Around the area where the Guardian saw the convoy the day before, a truck with Russian military plates was parked on the Russian side. It was not possible to linger as the area is a restricted zone, but military vehicles with no plates were seen coming from the direction of Ukraine, and a car carrying three men in fatigues sped in the direction of Ukraine. Several military-style vehicles with no licence plates were visible inside the Russian town of Donetsk.
Ukraine has long accused Russia of funnelling fighters and weapons across the porous border, including the Buk missile system that is believed to have brought down Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine last month. Russian-backed separatist rebels are continuing to fight a rearguard action against Ukrainian armed forces in and around Donetsk in Ukraine, which has come under sustained attack in recent days.
A monitoring mission of the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) is monitoring two official border points in the area. But the mission is not allowed to monitor other parts of the border, a limited mandate agreed after wrangling between the OSCE member states, which include Russia.
Ukrainian army sapper A Ukrainian army sapper holds a shell found by local residents just outside Donetsk. Photograph: Valentyn Ogirenko/Reuters
An OSCE representative in the region said there were frequent sightings of "young men in military-style dress" crossing the border at the official points, as well as some cases of wounded men returning from Ukraine. However, he said there had been no signs of military vehicles crossing the border. The OSCE has monitored the official border points 24 hours a day in the two weeks since its mission has started, but has not monitored unofficial crossings.
On Thursday there was further large-scale movement of military hardware along the road between the border and Kamensk-Shakhtinsky, where a caravan of more than 200 Russian aid trucks is awaiting onward shipment to eastern Ukraine to deliver humanitarian aid.
The Guardian saw at least 50 armoured personnel carriers and dozens of trucks and troop carrying vehicles, many emblazoned with "Peacekeeping Forces" and some flying the Russian flag, on the road. They appeared to turn off before reaching the immediate vicinity of the border. Most of the support vehicles had plates that identified them as belonging mainly to the Urals Military District, while others were from the North Caucasus region.
Russian military convoy A military pointsman talks to the driver of a truck at the head of a column of military vehicles outside the Rostov region, near the border with Ukraine. Photograph: Maxim Shemetov/Reuters
Earlier in the day, what appeared to be parts of a BUK system were also seen in the area, passing by the roadside camp where the humanitarian convoy has stopped. The aid convoy set off from a Russian military base outside Moscow on Tuesday. Russia says it includes badly needed aid for residents trapped in Luhansk for almost two weeks without water and electricity. Officials from Russia's emergency ministry opened a number of trucks for journalists on Friday to show they were full of food and emergency supplies.
Dozens of Ukrainian border guards have arrived in the area and are in talks with Russian officials and the International Red Cross to allow the aid to cross into Ukraine.
Indeed, away from the fighting in Ukraine and the counter-claims about border crossings, there are diplomatic efforts to bring the two sides together. On Friday the Russian and Ukrainian presidential chiefs of staff met in Sochi. On Sunday foreign ministers will meet in Berlin to continue the dialogue.
President Petro Poroshenko tells David Cameron that forces have destroyed part of military convoy seen entering territory
A Ukrainian soldier prepares a mortar behind the frontline near Illovaisk, in the Donetsk region. Photograph: Evgeniy Maloletka/AP
Ukraine claims it has destroyed Russian military vehicles in the country's east, a day after a column was spotted moving across the border.
Ukraine's president, Petro Poroshenko, told David Cameron by phone that his country's armed forces had destroyed part of an armed convoy that the Guardian saw moving through a gap in a border fence on Thursday night.
There was no immediate proof, and it was impossible to establish if the Ukrainians had targeted the same convoy seen by the Guardian. The Russians categorically denied that any of their troops were even in Ukraine. But the claim marks a new escalation in the six-month confrontation over Ukraine and if verified would amount to the first confirmed military engagement between the two adversaries since the crisis began in the spring.
"The president informed [Cameron] that the information was trustworthy because the majority of those machines [Russian military vehicles] had been eliminated by the Ukrainian artillery at night," a statement from Poroshenko's office read.
A White House spokesman said last night: "The escalation in Russian activity designed to destabilise Ukraine in recent weeks is extremely dangerous and provocative."
The Guardian and Telegraph witnessed the convoy crossing through a gap in a wire demarcation fence on Thursday night, close to the village of Severny on the Ukrainian side. The convoy had waited by the side of the road several miles away until darkness fell, and then moved towards the border. As it crossed the fenced area armed men stood guard. It was impossible to verify the destination or ultimate fate of the convoy, or monitor how long it stayed on the other side of the border.
Lorries which Russia says are carrying humanitarian aid for Ukraine waiting near the border for approval to enter the country. Photograph: ITAR-TASS/Barcroft Media
Russian aid convoy Lorries which Russia says are carrying humanitarian aid for Ukraine waiting near the border for approval to enter the country. Photograph: ITAR-TASS/Barcroft Media
Nato said it had observed the Russian incursion. "What we have seen last night is the continuation of what we have seen for some time," said the Nato secretary general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen. The reports drew swift international reaction. The Russian ambassador in London was summoned to the Foreign Office, and the foreign secretary, Philip Hammond, said he was "very alarmed" and that any incursion could have serious consequences.
Russia strongly denied any incursion. The FSB security service said it was in fact a mobile response team of border guards operating strictly within Russia's borders. A spokesperson for the FSB Border Guard Service in Rostov region told Russia Today: "When residents report about cross-border shooting and fighting in the frontier zone, these teams are immediately deployed to such areas to provide the safety of the Russian state border and Russian citizens, and also to prevent armed people from crossing into the territory of the Russian Federation."
President Vladimir Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov called the reports "fake". Russian defence ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said: "No Russian military column crossed the Russian-Ukrainian border by night or by day. It would be better if the Ukrainian artillery destroyed a phantom, rather than refugees or its own soldiers."
On Friday the Guardian again travelled to the site of the crossing to look at the area in daylight. A fence which demarcates the border and runs along the outer suburbs of the Russian border town of Donetsk is permeated by informal crossings and dirt tracks. Around the area where the Guardian saw the convoy the day before, a truck with Russian military plates was parked on the Russian side. It was not possible to linger as the area is a restricted zone, but military vehicles with no plates were seen coming from the direction of Ukraine, and a car carrying three men in fatigues sped in the direction of Ukraine. Several military-style vehicles with no licence plates were visible inside the Russian town of Donetsk.
Ukraine has long accused Russia of funnelling fighters and weapons across the porous border, including the Buk missile system that is believed to have brought down Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine last month. Russian-backed separatist rebels are continuing to fight a rearguard action against Ukrainian armed forces in and around Donetsk in Ukraine, which has come under sustained attack in recent days.
A monitoring mission of the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) is monitoring two official border points in the area. But the mission is not allowed to monitor other parts of the border, a limited mandate agreed after wrangling between the OSCE member states, which include Russia.
Ukrainian army sapper A Ukrainian army sapper holds a shell found by local residents just outside Donetsk. Photograph: Valentyn Ogirenko/Reuters
An OSCE representative in the region said there were frequent sightings of "young men in military-style dress" crossing the border at the official points, as well as some cases of wounded men returning from Ukraine. However, he said there had been no signs of military vehicles crossing the border. The OSCE has monitored the official border points 24 hours a day in the two weeks since its mission has started, but has not monitored unofficial crossings.
On Thursday there was further large-scale movement of military hardware along the road between the border and Kamensk-Shakhtinsky, where a caravan of more than 200 Russian aid trucks is awaiting onward shipment to eastern Ukraine to deliver humanitarian aid.
The Guardian saw at least 50 armoured personnel carriers and dozens of trucks and troop carrying vehicles, many emblazoned with "Peacekeeping Forces" and some flying the Russian flag, on the road. They appeared to turn off before reaching the immediate vicinity of the border. Most of the support vehicles had plates that identified them as belonging mainly to the Urals Military District, while others were from the North Caucasus region.
Russian military convoy A military pointsman talks to the driver of a truck at the head of a column of military vehicles outside the Rostov region, near the border with Ukraine. Photograph: Maxim Shemetov/Reuters
Earlier in the day, what appeared to be parts of a BUK system were also seen in the area, passing by the roadside camp where the humanitarian convoy has stopped. The aid convoy set off from a Russian military base outside Moscow on Tuesday. Russia says it includes badly needed aid for residents trapped in Luhansk for almost two weeks without water and electricity. Officials from Russia's emergency ministry opened a number of trucks for journalists on Friday to show they were full of food and emergency supplies.
Dozens of Ukrainian border guards have arrived in the area and are in talks with Russian officials and the International Red Cross to allow the aid to cross into Ukraine.
Indeed, away from the fighting in Ukraine and the counter-claims about border crossings, there are diplomatic efforts to bring the two sides together. On Friday the Russian and Ukrainian presidential chiefs of staff met in Sochi. On Sunday foreign ministers will meet in Berlin to continue the dialogue.
defenders shot down next coup government's attack aircraft,
How can I make " I like it" here in sokker :-) ?
How can I make " I like it" here in sokker :-) ?
"not every video can be verified, but US officials said that...."
It had to be true.
Russia deny it, they are lying.
"President Poroshenko said to Mr. Cameron that they destroyed russian recons troops...."
It had to be true.
Russia deny it, they are lying.
"Russia send hunderds of trucks with humanitarian help"
West says, it is start of occupation and attack.
Red Cross is checking it and using help for people.
Charles, tell me, how I should open my eyes :-).
US officials says there sun will exploder this week.
Russia deny it but they are lying.
This is the right way :-) ?
It had to be true.
Russia deny it, they are lying.
"President Poroshenko said to Mr. Cameron that they destroyed russian recons troops...."
It had to be true.
Russia deny it, they are lying.
"Russia send hunderds of trucks with humanitarian help"
West says, it is start of occupation and attack.
Red Cross is checking it and using help for people.
Charles, tell me, how I should open my eyes :-).
US officials says there sun will exploder this week.
Russia deny it but they are lying.
This is the right way :-) ?
The west world made every day accusation that Russia is attacking from its border on Ukraine.
So they send there OSCE and after month monitoring they didnt press any prove about this funny story.
= OSCE is lying or is doing nothing, because the US officials know it much better :-)
So they send there OSCE and after month monitoring they didnt press any prove about this funny story.
= OSCE is lying or is doing nothing, because the US officials know it much better :-)
My question is, where's the US's report about the Malaysian Plane, Russia gave detailed information about it:
The US who has observation airplanes flying arround the conflict area, gathering data about the Russia's military power, they somehow couldn't get any data about the Malaysian plane.
I saw some kind of report of the US version, but I laugh so bad that my stomach started to hurt. Stories without any proof, any recent pictures or etc. It's like they were making a summary of the Star Trek movie :))
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The US who has observation airplanes flying arround the conflict area, gathering data about the Russia's military power, they somehow couldn't get any data about the Malaysian plane.
I saw some kind of report of the US version, but I laugh so bad that my stomach started to hurt. Stories without any proof, any recent pictures or etc. It's like they were making a summary of the Star Trek movie :))
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Let's not forget what Bush said when they basically distroyed a country. "They didn't have the technology or resourses to found a nuclear power, but they were planning to do it :))". It's like being arrested for something you would do it in the future.
Beside this, the US is known as the biggest terrorist country in the history of humanity, isn't it? People from Japan should know better.
We forget too easy our history.
Some leaked information.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kGJkYutVEVk#t=1602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kGJkYutVEVk#t=1718
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Beside this, the US is known as the biggest terrorist country in the history of humanity, isn't it? People from Japan should know better.
We forget too easy our history.
Some leaked information.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kGJkYutVEVk#t=1602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kGJkYutVEVk#t=1718
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naaah... hiroshima bomb was thrown by the russians. everybody knows that now :))))
My question is, where's the US's report about the Malaysian Plane, Russia gave detailed information about it:
The only one logical answer is that those pictures shows what they want hide, so they can not reveal facts.
But my question is, why our western friends are so blind and dont have same question, as you have :-)
The only one logical answer is that those pictures shows what they want hide, so they can not reveal facts.
But my question is, why our western friends are so blind and dont have same question, as you have :-)
"where's the US's report about the Malaysian Plane, Russia gave detailed information about it"
"the only logical.." ...lol.
How about the simpler version,
the crash happend in the ex-soviet russia territory the near russian border, were russia/russians/pro-russians are attacking a soverign country with rockets produced and delivered from russia, the plane most probably was shot down by "pro" or simply russian separatists... who are/were controling the area, were the FSB/ex-KGB operatives operate daily... and are not even hiding themselves.
That is all without even questioning the reliability of russian plane crashes "experts", has anyone heard of the "smolensk crash" in 2010 which is when all the misinformation really got going, out of russia... and the wreck of the plane still has not be given back to Poland...
...as for "america".. or the United States of America, they are over 7850 km away from the malaysian airlines plane incident...
PS: some of your "arguments" rumpil go beyond paranoid conspiracies... lol. I love it when you try to contradict the official statement of a government or a head of state.. with some single link form a conspiracy and or propaganda website link or some anonymous extremely subjective blog. Keep up the nonsense.. ;-)
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"the only logical.." ...lol.
How about the simpler version,
the crash happend in the ex-soviet russia territory the near russian border, were russia/russians/pro-russians are attacking a soverign country with rockets produced and delivered from russia, the plane most probably was shot down by "pro" or simply russian separatists... who are/were controling the area, were the FSB/ex-KGB operatives operate daily... and are not even hiding themselves.
That is all without even questioning the reliability of russian plane crashes "experts", has anyone heard of the "smolensk crash" in 2010 which is when all the misinformation really got going, out of russia... and the wreck of the plane still has not be given back to Poland...
...as for "america".. or the United States of America, they are over 7850 km away from the malaysian airlines plane incident...
PS: some of your "arguments" rumpil go beyond paranoid conspiracies... lol. I love it when you try to contradict the official statement of a government or a head of state.. with some single link form a conspiracy and or propaganda website link or some anonymous extremely subjective blog. Keep up the nonsense.. ;-)
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