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Yes indeed, a very solid argument for borders. And also way more realistic as your imaginary world without borders ....

LOL. What did you say about discussing views and not fighting the person?? What are you doing right now?? Is this your respect what you are talking about, by doing the opposite as what you ask of others??

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LOL. What did you say about discussing views and not fighting the person?? What are you doing right now?? Is this your respect what you are talking about, by doing the opposite as what you ask of others??

uhm..
I se you fail to recognize the point.
I didn't insult you, I didn't talk about your person, your beliefs, your ideas etc.
I only said your behaviour, in this topic, of attacking other people instead of answering is OT and out of rules.

Yes, looking at this thread you are very busy :D

Sometimes it takes more than one paragraph to enhance one's understanding of a subject. But of course it's more comfortable to read headlines from Itar-Tass, RT, Ria Novosti & Co. :)
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:)

"borders" ;)

Yes, they change over time like everything change over time, but that's not the point. The point is they are real and crossing them with an army to take over land on the other side of the border is an act of war.

ok, to take over land is an act of war

...and crossing borders with an army to "instaling democracy", "removing dictatorship", "fighting against "terrorism""... IS?

Those are not the reasons why Russia attacked Ukraine. Russia attacked Ukraine for a number of reasons, but absolutely not those that you mentioned.

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it doesnt seems so :-) but I am really busy man at work, I am surprised too that I am able make some short answer, short but very comprehensive :-D

Headlines are good, but you know, in western headlines, just with few words can be still a lie.
Maybe I will give order to some college, maybe secretary to read that book and give me short review, if you are lazy :-). Does she need to speak english well, or it is written in simple english :-D ? Or, do you have russian translation :-D ?

how can I play it slowly ? I saw there ottoman empire and russia and also germany :-D but now Ukraine around the Crimea. Or..there was Ukraine but why it has same colour as Russia ?
There was maybe some Ukraine, but that video is very fast :-).

when russia did it ?
Every european state is speaking about rebels and uk. government, but in your country your newspaper are saying about russia invasion? Please, give you national newspaper and article about Russian invasion and I will translate it and read it.

thx Charles, I will really appreciate it.

Dossier: Oekraïne (Dossier: Ukraine)

Chronologie: Onrust in Oekraïne (Timeline: Disturbance in Ukraine)

Have fun! (although I'm pretty sure Google translator won't work well enough to really understand a lot of text in articles)

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crossing borders with an army to take over land = an act of war
crossing borders with an army to "instaling democracy", "removing dictatorship", "fighting against "terrorism"" = ?

this is question
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I gave you the answer already. We are talking about Russia here, and the reasons you gave have nothing to do with Russia attacking Ukraine. Russia attacked Ukraine for the obvious reasons; mainly for land and the resources, the naval base and more controle in one of the neighboring countries.

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ok, I agree, Russia attack Ukraine - Russia is bad guy = sanction

USA attacked Iraq for weapons of mass destruction without UN mandate. weapons of mass destruction were totaly lying. US gov and EU leaders now accused Russia for attacking Ukraine.

double standard or not?


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In first link, there is nothing about Russia invasion. Just about rebels and problem in Ukraine.

In second link is:

Humanitarian aid:
25 augustus: Rusland heeft Oekraïne laten weten dat het van plan is opnieuw een konvooi met hulpgoederen voor Oost-Oekraïne te sturen.
:-DDD

Red cross checking humanitarian convoy
21 augustus: Oekraïense grenswachters zijn donderdag begonnen met de controle van het Russische konvooi. Dat konvooi met hulpgoederen heeft in de buurt van de grens gewacht en staat nog steeds in het Russische deel van de grenspost. Het is de bedoeling dat het Rode Kruis de hulpgoederen in het oosten van Oekraïne distribueert.

Russia and sactions
19 augustus: Rusland dreigt dinsdag meer sancties door te voeren als westerse landen nieuwe economische maatregelen treffen.

Russian answer on EU aggresion/sanctions
5 augustus: De Russische president Vladimir Poetin draagt zijn regering op voorbereidingen te treffen voor wraakmaatregelen vanwege de westerse sancties tegen Rusland. De Russische krant Vedomosti meldt dat Rusland overweegt het luchtruim boven Siberië te sluiten voor Europese luchtvaartmaatschappijen.



Please, where you read in you home news about Russian invasion :-DD.
It look like this:
http://www.duitslandweb.nl/naslagwerk/Geschiedenis/WO+II_x003a_+1939-1945/Inval+in+Polen,+1939.html

Compare it and understand what the word INVASION = invasia in dutch means!!!
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