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It had to be russian invasion and I have two proves!
1. Charles said it and Porosenko said it. What to say more... it had to be an invasion :-D
2. I was member of russian invasion too ! I had to admit it here. I just dont know exactly name of that game, cos I play more games :-(
1. Charles said it and Porosenko said it. What to say more... it had to be an invasion :-D
2. I was member of russian invasion too ! I had to admit it here. I just dont know exactly name of that game, cos I play more games :-(
wait, did they really use a footage from a video game as evidence of invasion???
the question is, how much people would notice that and realize if it was or if it would be true, I can bet with you that even lot of people here would never recognize it. Not because of quality or efects, becuase that people belive to what want to belive, no matter about content. Am I right Charles ? :-) (just question :-) )
apparently....
But history is full of false evidences by the USA and his backed regimes (supposed to be democracies).
From the Gulf of Tonkin incident, to the Colin Powel's speach in the UN council about the weapons of mass distruction owned by Saddam, to the accusations to the Assad regime to use chemical weapons against people (later turned out to be used by the US backed ISIS).
Recently, few hours later the MH17 crash, Ukrainian SBU pubblished a video on youtube with a supposed conversations between two "terrorists" who basically admitted to be involved in that crash. But soon it turned out the video was made before the crash happened.
Enough to make thoughter sanctions by US-EU, anyway...
The fact is the thruth doesn't have any relevance here.
West decided time ago to isolate Russia, maybe in the last Bildenberg or somewhere like that. So any provocation, any evidence (no matter if false), any little fart... everything is an excuse to go in this direction.
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But history is full of false evidences by the USA and his backed regimes (supposed to be democracies).
From the Gulf of Tonkin incident, to the Colin Powel's speach in the UN council about the weapons of mass distruction owned by Saddam, to the accusations to the Assad regime to use chemical weapons against people (later turned out to be used by the US backed ISIS).
Recently, few hours later the MH17 crash, Ukrainian SBU pubblished a video on youtube with a supposed conversations between two "terrorists" who basically admitted to be involved in that crash. But soon it turned out the video was made before the crash happened.
Enough to make thoughter sanctions by US-EU, anyway...
The fact is the thruth doesn't have any relevance here.
West decided time ago to isolate Russia, maybe in the last Bildenberg or somewhere like that. So any provocation, any evidence (no matter if false), any little fart... everything is an excuse to go in this direction.
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You really believe international politics can be made with 2 sentences? Are you really that dumb to believe that shit? I know rumpil is, he reads only headliners and believes everything as long as it is pro-Russia and anti US/EU/NATO, but have you also dropped to that bottom level??
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wait, did they really use a footage from a video game as evidence of invasion???
If this is even true, it must be the other way around. They have made dumb people believe the others are using footage from video games as evidence and the dumbasses even believe that propaganda shit. Just as they believed the photoshopped Russian pictures of burning Ukrainian cities while nothing was happening yet. Just as the BS Russia is not involved and not helping the terrorists. Etc etc etc. Only dumb people believe all that Russian propaganda nonsense crap, or they are brainwashed their whole live to believe everything the lying Russian media is telling this people.
If this is even true, it must be the other way around. They have made dumb people believe the others are using footage from video games as evidence and the dumbasses even believe that propaganda shit. Just as they believed the photoshopped Russian pictures of burning Ukrainian cities while nothing was happening yet. Just as the BS Russia is not involved and not helping the terrorists. Etc etc etc. Only dumb people believe all that Russian propaganda nonsense crap, or they are brainwashed their whole live to believe everything the lying Russian media is telling this people.
more nonsense... :-) so who were they? (in Crimea, green people fro mars) :-D ...and who are they now?
Honorable russian-speaking citizens on holiday (I know) in uniforms saving russian-speaking civilians from the EU-NATO-Ukrainian-facists that are murdering civilians for fun... apparently, not land, recources and Ukraine's more fragile economy, so they help..., by killing ukrainians in ukraine... what a wonderful neighbor... helping, of course... to "resolve the conflict"... of course, with more and more military equipement... and "white convoys of aid" ... that probably on their way back, take russian troops bodies, back to russia...
we all know the story... also we know RT idiocy. I heard of RT that countries joing NATO, is a near invasion of russia... isn't it? so.. Russia needs to defend itself... of course... why not? ... in a open conflict... and the people need to follow Putin... of course... against... hmmm... hmm... who? I know! everyone... including italians, slovakians.. from the evil EU and NATO, of course... why not attack those countries just after Ukraine... ?
PS: You can dislike the US, or facists... all you want, it still has not much to do with russian citizens killing ukrainian citizens in ukrainian territory. I and many rational people have a problem with that.
And lets not forget, russians in Ukraine are in fact, immigrants that had a bit of help from Stalin, who also drew the "Donieck Republic" on the map.
Russians_in_Ukraine
1922 = 9.2%
1939 = 13.4%
1989 = 22.1%
2001 = 17.2%
PS: + some "western propaganda" ;-) made on the spot - by me... dedicated to the pro-russian morons...
Lazar Kaganovich (left) played a role in enforcing Stalin's policies that led to the Holodomor.
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Honorable russian-speaking citizens on holiday (I know) in uniforms saving russian-speaking civilians from the EU-NATO-Ukrainian-facists that are murdering civilians for fun... apparently, not land, recources and Ukraine's more fragile economy, so they help..., by killing ukrainians in ukraine... what a wonderful neighbor... helping, of course... to "resolve the conflict"... of course, with more and more military equipement... and "white convoys of aid" ... that probably on their way back, take russian troops bodies, back to russia...
we all know the story... also we know RT idiocy. I heard of RT that countries joing NATO, is a near invasion of russia... isn't it? so.. Russia needs to defend itself... of course... why not? ... in a open conflict... and the people need to follow Putin... of course... against... hmmm... hmm... who? I know! everyone... including italians, slovakians.. from the evil EU and NATO, of course... why not attack those countries just after Ukraine... ?
PS: You can dislike the US, or facists... all you want, it still has not much to do with russian citizens killing ukrainian citizens in ukrainian territory. I and many rational people have a problem with that.
And lets not forget, russians in Ukraine are in fact, immigrants that had a bit of help from Stalin, who also drew the "Donieck Republic" on the map.
Russians_in_Ukraine
1922 = 9.2%
1939 = 13.4%
1989 = 22.1%
2001 = 17.2%
PS: + some "western propaganda" ;-) made on the spot - by me... dedicated to the pro-russian morons...
Lazar Kaganovich (left) played a role in enforcing Stalin's policies that led to the Holodomor.
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definitetly some truth, some insults and massive generalizations.. and a very fixed understanding of how reality works... yes, there are conflicts in the world, and people are killing people... true... unfortunately :-] (just like russians in ukraine), people are making arms, and selling them for profit, just the same as donuts... (everywhere) we (human species) are animals.. that is a fact :-],
...but, the "iluminati"-like crap has no evidence whatsoever... "the people in charge", "the (corporations and) bankers, the rich and the powerful" who? exactly... and how is it different from China, Russia or Venezuela (when you look at the numbers it actually is different), it's a bit like the "intelligent design" argument of the "pre-writen script", as oppose to psychological conflicts of groups evolving in time, escalating and de-escalating... depending on decisions made on the spot, which is more like the reality we live in, without a pre-determined outcome! (future is unscripted!) ...sometimes history repeats itself, that is true... but when you look at the larger picture, we hope to learn from it, and change the reality in the future,,, at the moment the cycle seems to have gone the wrong way, but it is definatly not pre-designed by one single side, its a outcome of many interconnected systems, but to the point... the US is nowhere near as violent (in hard numbers) as russia, or many other regimes. They are bad, they make wrong decisions, just like the ukrainian government does, but also we have rationality...
and we can determine facts, who attacked who... (despite death tolls rising) and we can differentiate bad from worse... a oppose to saying that everyone is bad... and we are all evil and doomed... which we are in the end anyway.. :-D :-]
List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts
the cardinal argument of a evil "NATO" in numbers
NATO Air campaign:
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 489–528 civilian deaths caused by NATO bombing in Kosovo and Serbia (according to Human Rights Watch) Caused by NATO:
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 1,031–1,200 killed
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 14 tanks destroyed
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 18 APCs destroyed
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 20 artillery pieces destroyed
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 121 aircraft and helicopters destroyed
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shall we compare it to russian or syrian casulites... in the same time space?
or the conflict with no US or NATO involved: 2014 War in Ukraine = 2,593+ ...so far... since feburary... ...even all the weapons used in that conflict were produced in ukraine, sold to russia, for them to get attacked with... :-] paradoxically, and adding to the argument that future is not pre-determined. To put it simply, if a make a knife (to cut cheese with :-) ) and sell it to you, it not pre-determined that you are going to stab me with it, if the future.
syria? (more graphs!!)
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...but, the "iluminati"-like crap has no evidence whatsoever... "the people in charge", "the (corporations and) bankers, the rich and the powerful" who? exactly... and how is it different from China, Russia or Venezuela (when you look at the numbers it actually is different), it's a bit like the "intelligent design" argument of the "pre-writen script", as oppose to psychological conflicts of groups evolving in time, escalating and de-escalating... depending on decisions made on the spot, which is more like the reality we live in, without a pre-determined outcome! (future is unscripted!) ...sometimes history repeats itself, that is true... but when you look at the larger picture, we hope to learn from it, and change the reality in the future,,, at the moment the cycle seems to have gone the wrong way, but it is definatly not pre-designed by one single side, its a outcome of many interconnected systems, but to the point... the US is nowhere near as violent (in hard numbers) as russia, or many other regimes. They are bad, they make wrong decisions, just like the ukrainian government does, but also we have rationality...
and we can determine facts, who attacked who... (despite death tolls rising) and we can differentiate bad from worse... a oppose to saying that everyone is bad... and we are all evil and doomed... which we are in the end anyway.. :-D :-]
List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts
the cardinal argument of a evil "NATO" in numbers
NATO Air campaign:
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 489–528 civilian deaths caused by NATO bombing in Kosovo and Serbia (according to Human Rights Watch) Caused by NATO:
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 1,031–1,200 killed
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 14 tanks destroyed
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 18 APCs destroyed
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 20 artillery pieces destroyed
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 121 aircraft and helicopters destroyed
...
shall we compare it to russian or syrian casulites... in the same time space?
or the conflict with no US or NATO involved: 2014 War in Ukraine = 2,593+ ...so far... since feburary... ...even all the weapons used in that conflict were produced in ukraine, sold to russia, for them to get attacked with... :-] paradoxically, and adding to the argument that future is not pre-determined. To put it simply, if a make a knife (to cut cheese with :-) ) and sell it to you, it not pre-determined that you are going to stab me with it, if the future.
syria? (more graphs!!)
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but when you look at the larger picture, we hope to learn from it, US is nowhere near as violent (in hard numbers) as russia, or many other regimes. They are bad, they make wrong decisions, just like the ukrainian government, but also we have rationality...
You do realize you have no basis for that claim, right?
Why count Yugoslavia instead of Vietnam or Irak? If you look at "hard numbers", the truth is that the US has a non-stop history of messing up country after country... One location doesn't mean anything as the list of locations is endless...
You do realize you have no basis for that claim, right?
Why count Yugoslavia instead of Vietnam or Irak? If you look at "hard numbers", the truth is that the US has a non-stop history of messing up country after country... One location doesn't mean anything as the list of locations is endless...
US is still nowhere near russia... if you missed it, I was - and always am - referring to the ukrainian conflict, and the "violent NATO in kosovo" (not US) argument, against the "pro"russians, in ukraine... which are the two numbers I compared, only one is the total, an the other ...just since feburary... were one side is still denying obvious involvement...
I don't deny that the US is violent, I would have to be mad, but I do recognize the difference in death toll numbers... (since we are talking about that in essence) and I do differentiate aggressors...
Unfortunately pacifism in a utopic idea... :-(
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I don't deny that the US is violent, I would have to be mad, but I do recognize the difference in death toll numbers... (since we are talking about that in essence) and I do differentiate aggressors...
Unfortunately pacifism in a utopic idea... :-(
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the truth is that the US has a non-stop history of messing up country after country
Russia did the same, that was the whole thing of for example the cold war. Fighting 'eachother' by arming groups in other countries and make a complete mess of these countries, all over the world. Not to forget China, as they also helped Russia in their fight against the US. And do I have to point out the Soviet era in eastern European countries (talking about messing up countries :/)? And ofcourse the terrible things leaders of Russia did to their 'own' people.
And there isn't that much footage of Russia fighting it's present wars as US fighting wars, but now and then some news came out about Russian soldiers behaviour in for example Chechnya and North Caucasus. That is as worse as you can behave as soldiers (Yes, war crimes / crime against humanity). Just look it up yourself. The hate against the US and less against Russia is mostly because of media attention (which is changing right now because Russia can't hide this war as they did with their other wars), the worldwide hate-hype against the US, parrot behaviour of dumb people, and most probably also the lack of knowledge about Russian military history of the past decades and present time.
EDIT: Did I mention the allies and friends of Russia? When it is a violent and aggressive regime, the government or dictator most probably is an ally or even friend of Russia and Russia provide the (forbidden) weapons to this regime :/ So Russia definitely has a very large share in messing up countries up untill today, and will continue to do so in the future.
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Russia did the same, that was the whole thing of for example the cold war. Fighting 'eachother' by arming groups in other countries and make a complete mess of these countries, all over the world. Not to forget China, as they also helped Russia in their fight against the US. And do I have to point out the Soviet era in eastern European countries (talking about messing up countries :/)? And ofcourse the terrible things leaders of Russia did to their 'own' people.
And there isn't that much footage of Russia fighting it's present wars as US fighting wars, but now and then some news came out about Russian soldiers behaviour in for example Chechnya and North Caucasus. That is as worse as you can behave as soldiers (Yes, war crimes / crime against humanity). Just look it up yourself. The hate against the US and less against Russia is mostly because of media attention (which is changing right now because Russia can't hide this war as they did with their other wars), the worldwide hate-hype against the US, parrot behaviour of dumb people, and most probably also the lack of knowledge about Russian military history of the past decades and present time.
EDIT: Did I mention the allies and friends of Russia? When it is a violent and aggressive regime, the government or dictator most probably is an ally or even friend of Russia and Russia provide the (forbidden) weapons to this regime :/ So Russia definitely has a very large share in messing up countries up untill today, and will continue to do so in the future.
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http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/rebel-leaders-accuse-ukraine-forces-of-breaking-ceasefire/article1-1260885.aspx
Ukraine forces did not accept cease-fire and are still attacking...how long the cease-fire last till they broke it ? Several hours :-(
People living in Doneck are saying that that Ukr. artillery start firing on 18:03 (maybe CET, I am not sure).
Ukraine forces did not accept cease-fire and are still attacking...how long the cease-fire last till they broke it ? Several hours :-(
People living in Doneck are saying that that Ukr. artillery start firing on 18:03 (maybe CET, I am not sure).