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What does that video tell more than "fights near Donezk airport" which was reported in "western" media as well of course? Oh wait, probably Russian media derives evidence from that video that Ukr. army broke the truce :)
The point is important. Western media spend milions of euro to persuade us about truth and russian media set up there online camera so the world can see reality :-).
Russian reality ...is very different to reality itself.
One source is usually nonsense, also russian media are extremely selective, in what and when they show. Oooh.. look at ukrainian soldier killing a russian "citizen" (with a rifle in his hand, in ukrainie), therefore "we the people" of mother russia need to "protect russian citizen"s... by attacking a sovereign country, and stealing its resources and land "for the people" while disregarding international treaties... look... facists everywere! kill ukrainian government police and soldiers in ukrainie, to establish a 'rogue' russian state (based on Stalins imperialist plans), or simply add a bit of territory to mother russia. What is good for russia, is not necessarily true (or reality), in fact historically it is usually the opposite, a russian propaganda is based on misinformation, and selective information (sprear asymmetrically)... so again...
please stop writing nonsense... that russian media show "reality"
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One source is usually nonsense, also russian media are extremely selective, in what and when they show. Oooh.. look at ukrainian soldier killing a russian "citizen" (with a rifle in his hand, in ukrainie), therefore "we the people" of mother russia need to "protect russian citizen"s... by attacking a sovereign country, and stealing its resources and land "for the people" while disregarding international treaties... look... facists everywere! kill ukrainian government police and soldiers in ukrainie, to establish a 'rogue' russian state (based on Stalins imperialist plans), or simply add a bit of territory to mother russia. What is good for russia, is not necessarily true (or reality), in fact historically it is usually the opposite, a russian propaganda is based on misinformation, and selective information (sprear asymmetrically)... so again...
please stop writing nonsense... that russian media show "reality"
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Sweden newspaper....
http://m.thelocal.se//20140730/swedish-neo-nazis-threaten-ukraine-democracy
http://m.thelocal.se//20140730/swedish-neo-nazis-threaten-ukraine-democracy
Russian reality ...is very different to reality itself.
Such a sentences says that you are biased. ok..russia is evil :-D, tell me now about peter awful/frightful and that will be and of story :-)
also russian media are extremely selective
I can agree. A lot of them as everywhere on the world are biased too. But the point is what say the main state media and if the state media can lie to own people so much times as media in EU/US do.
I will ask you something, what do you know (from media) about NATO troops in Ukraine now ? Are there some ? how much, describe me their warforce there please.
Such a sentences says that you are biased. ok..russia is evil :-D, tell me now about peter awful/frightful and that will be and of story :-)
also russian media are extremely selective
I can agree. A lot of them as everywhere on the world are biased too. But the point is what say the main state media and if the state media can lie to own people so much times as media in EU/US do.
I will ask you something, what do you know (from media) about NATO troops in Ukraine now ? Are there some ? how much, describe me their warforce there please.
Wow, yes, the webcam is so revealing! We see.. houses, lights, smoke. Wow, stunning and breaking news indeed :D
"look... facists everywere!"
and, again you are missing the point, I wrote this many times, its not about how many troops nato or russia are sending, and how many ukrainians or russian die, or who killed more of whom,
its about taking responsibility for own actions, in this case for starting this international conflict by russia, to end it as soon as possible, with least deaths or troops on either side of the borders.
There would be nothing wrong if NATO sent 20000 soldiers, if and when Ukraine gov. asked for it, and agreed to it since they feel threatened by 20000 russian troops on its borders, and some within... since march, while they already lost territory to russia, by force or deceit.
(weak, but force)
PS: if you ask me, for every single 1 russian soldier near the ukrainian border, there should be at least 2 soldiers standing ground, 1 ukrainian and 1 (or more) from a peace-keeping organisation like U.N. for example, but russia blocked that - since they are not interested in ending this conflict.... russia is the aggressor, interested in not their territory and resources, so they should be outnumbered by a proportional margin, 2 to 1 at least. I don't agree that is should be a 'equal and opposite reaction', it should be proportional and stronger.
Leaving this mess to mercenaries from either side is the worst thing that could, and is happening.
I've seen those serbian, french or swedish idiots also...
Sending weapons to ukraine by NATO is what russia "peacekeeping efforts" force... :-] it is wrong, but its a unavoidable reaction due to russian two faced efforts where they keep on supplying weapons to the terrorists/separatists... who are killing ukrainians in ukraine, also by disregarding international agreements russia made, and ukrainian borders with their green or white trucks... "for the russian people" of course... meanwhile spreding lies, that its still a internal conflict with no russian intervention, and pretending to be interested in cease-fires and peace in general. Again, if Putin wanted he could have stopped this conflict few months ago... but he isn't interested in that.
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and, again you are missing the point, I wrote this many times, its not about how many troops nato or russia are sending, and how many ukrainians or russian die, or who killed more of whom,
its about taking responsibility for own actions, in this case for starting this international conflict by russia, to end it as soon as possible, with least deaths or troops on either side of the borders.
There would be nothing wrong if NATO sent 20000 soldiers, if and when Ukraine gov. asked for it, and agreed to it since they feel threatened by 20000 russian troops on its borders, and some within... since march, while they already lost territory to russia, by force or deceit.
(weak, but force)
PS: if you ask me, for every single 1 russian soldier near the ukrainian border, there should be at least 2 soldiers standing ground, 1 ukrainian and 1 (or more) from a peace-keeping organisation like U.N. for example, but russia blocked that - since they are not interested in ending this conflict.... russia is the aggressor, interested in not their territory and resources, so they should be outnumbered by a proportional margin, 2 to 1 at least. I don't agree that is should be a 'equal and opposite reaction', it should be proportional and stronger.
Leaving this mess to mercenaries from either side is the worst thing that could, and is happening.
I've seen those serbian, french or swedish idiots also...
Sending weapons to ukraine by NATO is what russia "peacekeeping efforts" force... :-] it is wrong, but its a unavoidable reaction due to russian two faced efforts where they keep on supplying weapons to the terrorists/separatists... who are killing ukrainians in ukraine, also by disregarding international agreements russia made, and ukrainian borders with their green or white trucks... "for the russian people" of course... meanwhile spreding lies, that its still a internal conflict with no russian intervention, and pretending to be interested in cease-fires and peace in general. Again, if Putin wanted he could have stopped this conflict few months ago... but he isn't interested in that.
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nice Ukrainian menu.... and nice logo :-)
https://twitter.com/Black_Bomb/status/511236049008603137/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Black_Bomb/status/511236049008603137/photo/1
I hoped that you will understand the point, the difference between their and our media, but you are totally lost.
So you can laugh of some camera, enjoy your morning newspaper, there will be the facts :-D
So you can laugh of some camera, enjoy your morning newspaper, there will be the facts :-D
you are always talking about not important territory, that is why you are completly ost.
after soviet union was canceled there was a deal that NATO will not spread to east and countries there will be neutral.
but nato violated that deal many times and now, on the border of russia, you are talking about "territory belong to Ukraine", this is really ridiculous...
after soviet union was canceled there was a deal that NATO will not spread to east and countries there will be neutral.
but nato violated that deal many times and now, on the border of russia, you are talking about "territory belong to Ukraine", this is really ridiculous...
LOL :P
Yeh, you are completely lost, you don't understand a thing about making news! A webcame shows what is really happening ....... don't you get that?? Nothing beats their superior webcame view :P And ofcourse a good explanation what the lights in the distance are isn't needed at all, you can make up your own story what the lights are and than blame the US/EU/NATO/Ukraine for it (choose 1 or more groups).
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Yeh, you are completely lost, you don't understand a thing about making news! A webcame shows what is really happening ....... don't you get that?? Nothing beats their superior webcame view :P And ofcourse a good explanation what the lights in the distance are isn't needed at all, you can make up your own story what the lights are and than blame the US/EU/NATO/Ukraine for it (choose 1 or more groups).
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yes rumpil, yes... I am talking about sovereign Ukrainian territory - well spoted, which has been violeted by russia. "territory belong to Ukraine", this is really ridiculous..." , truth is comming out step by step... I have no comments for statements like that... "not important territory" , only russian lives are important... to be protected by Putin (anytime and anywhere), and everyone else... ***k em', they must be facists... so killing facists is fine..., no need for respecting borders... yes, yes... I know... (irony) I've heard that nonsense, before...
...in your head
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once more time, you didnt understand the point. Try think ! It is simple.
I was showing you differences between west and east style of spreading information. West likes own newspaper and secret data and east is showing us the reality.
Dont look on that camera, think about the principle and the point, that was the major idea of my post, which you did not understand and will not :-)
I was showing you differences between west and east style of spreading information. West likes own newspaper and secret data and east is showing us the reality.
Dont look on that camera, think about the principle and the point, that was the major idea of my post, which you did not understand and will not :-)
West violated all deals after cold war ended and russia was very patient last tens of year. But now, when NATO want get on russia borders you are suprised that Russia had to react ? Do you think that anybody can crush russia without fight ? Ridiculous.
And, if Crimea is Ukrainian, why 70% people vote there party United Russia.
Or it is again manipulated :-DDD ?
And, if Crimea is Ukrainian, why 70% people vote there party United Russia.
Or it is again manipulated :-DDD ?