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If you actually want to compare the well organized free referendum of Scotland (and a few missteps) with the illegal propaganda 'referendum' of Crimea .......
Go on with your dumb trolling.
Go on with your dumb trolling.
"such a great video" rumpil you are a moron, full stop.
First of all watch this because I can't be bothered explaining that this video proves nothing, despite the wonderful commentary which is telling you exactly what to think, you don't see what is on those ballots at all, in the first two scenes (maybe the lady made a mistake in the first place, and corrected it to the right pile), its assuming too much.
I also love the source: "elite New World Order..." sound very credible from the start.
A for Crimea, again... I can not be bothered explaining the obvious, anymore ...but if you want to believe any nonsense for the internet without even questioning it, then, here you go Pro-Russia terrorists captured with over 100,000 pre-filled “referendum” ballots, despite it being completely illegal, under a occupying "unknown" army, or without the "status quo" option ...at all. 2 Choices, but Neither Is ‘No’ It was more like the hitler's referendum in 1938... only worse, because even that one had 'no'. Also the turnout was 123% of voters, and the results were in the papers, before the voting ended... We have been over this many times, only you seem to reject rationality.
...also the idiotic campaign of "facists" or russia - 1oo% russian propaganda, or simply lies.
"It is all a matter of proportion... ...nobody attacked the russians in Crimea, they have been no disturbances which would justify the Putin, ...characterisation of the 'ukraine ..facists', this is taking a small problem and blowing it into a major one... " - Norman Davies.
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First of all watch this because I can't be bothered explaining that this video proves nothing, despite the wonderful commentary which is telling you exactly what to think, you don't see what is on those ballots at all, in the first two scenes (maybe the lady made a mistake in the first place, and corrected it to the right pile), its assuming too much.
I also love the source: "elite New World Order..." sound very credible from the start.
A for Crimea, again... I can not be bothered explaining the obvious, anymore ...but if you want to believe any nonsense for the internet without even questioning it, then, here you go Pro-Russia terrorists captured with over 100,000 pre-filled “referendum” ballots, despite it being completely illegal, under a occupying "unknown" army, or without the "status quo" option ...at all. 2 Choices, but Neither Is ‘No’ It was more like the hitler's referendum in 1938... only worse, because even that one had 'no'. Also the turnout was 123% of voters, and the results were in the papers, before the voting ended... We have been over this many times, only you seem to reject rationality.
...also the idiotic campaign of "facists" or russia - 1oo% russian propaganda, or simply lies.
"It is all a matter of proportion... ...nobody attacked the russians in Crimea, they have been no disturbances which would justify the Putin, ...characterisation of the 'ukraine ..facists', this is taking a small problem and blowing it into a major one... " - Norman Davies.
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So, we have here mistakes in referendum in Scotland, maybe little maybe huge, I dont know but I am asking if is the good referendum and legal.
Then, we have referendum in Crimea, where was no problems, no videos with cheating but we all know that it was cheated.
LOL
If I post here video like Obama kill sombody everybody would tell it is fake video, but everybody without video are sure that Putin had to kill a lot of people in KGB :-). That is the problem here on sokker, that content is not important, just author of news is.
Then, we have referendum in Crimea, where was no problems, no videos with cheating but we all know that it was cheated.
LOL
If I post here video like Obama kill sombody everybody would tell it is fake video, but everybody without video are sure that Putin had to kill a lot of people in KGB :-). That is the problem here on sokker, that content is not important, just author of news is.
Only fools believe there was a real referendum in Crimea. Whatever the outcome, Russia would always have won this illegal 'referendum' to steal Crimea, like they did.
And only a lying troll would post that dumb shit you are posting constantly! Why do you keep posting your pro-Russian nonsense anyway, do you really think you can change someone's mind in this topic? No one is that stupid to believe the propaganda nonsense you believe.
And only a lying troll would post that dumb shit you are posting constantly! Why do you keep posting your pro-Russian nonsense anyway, do you really think you can change someone's mind in this topic? No one is that stupid to believe the propaganda nonsense you believe.
It is useless to post that kind of info in this topic, the lying troll will always post something dumb and stupid as a reply.
And for those who still think after this last comment of rumpil it is not an annoying childish troll ...............
And for those who still think after this last comment of rumpil it is not an annoying childish troll ...............
It is useless try to persuade blind people in this topic, the lying troll will always post standard answers from the paid mainstream as argument.
And for those who still think after last comment of Charles it is not brainwashed child .....
And for those who still think after last comment of Charles it is not brainwashed child .....
Bad things happen in war, on both sides, that's what war is about :/ The terrorists and Russia are doing the same since the start of this war http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/ukraine-mounting-evidence-abduction-and-torture-2014-07-11. Non of this would have happened if Russia had not stolen Crimea, and non of this would still happen if Russia stayed out the comflict, had not support the terrorists and with that prolong the comflict between east and west and even started a complete war, etc etc. In war both sides will behave badly, but if you want to blame the most terrible of them all, blame the terrorists and Russia as they are the enemies of Ukraine and the people.
And that header of the video is again for the dumb people to believe, think for yourself!
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And that header of the video is again for the dumb people to believe, think for yourself!
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The 'adult' is coping other people words again and think he looks smart that way ... what a joke you are!! Go to Youtube with your dumb trolling comments, stop ruining the Sokker forum with your crap. No one believes you, no one is that stupid.
Non of this would have happened if USA-EU didn't subvert the democratic and free election of Yanukovich and caused a coup in Kiev, with the support of the neo-nazi ukrainian forces, and non of this would still happen if USA-EU stayed out the conflict, had not support the terrorists battalions and with that prolong and even started a complete war, etc etc
PS: I remind you "novorussians army" didn't invade Kiev, didn't blow up train, squares, buildings, didn't kidnapped citizens and so on. It is the official ukrainian army (with the help of the volunteer battalions) that moved war in east Ukraine soil...
PS: I remind you "novorussians army" didn't invade Kiev, didn't blow up train, squares, buildings, didn't kidnapped citizens and so on. It is the official ukrainian army (with the help of the volunteer battalions) that moved war in east Ukraine soil...
I'm pretty sure the serious fighting started when these regions called for independence after Russia stole Crimea and started a propaganda attack (see for example the nazi propaganda videos) to destroy Ukraine from the inside. And don't think it just all happened, it all fits perfectly in Putin's plan of Russianisation, which is not a secret.
And about that italic part, the people of Ukraine kicked out a corrupt puppet president who sold their land to the Kremlin, the previous occupiers (Sovjet, remember??). Maybe you should ask older people how much fun it was to live in the Sovjet Union and why these people don't want that to happen again.
And don't act if you care about democracy, the people, or what so ever. You people are all about anti-EU/US/NATO and/or pro-Russia. It's not something moral that drives you, it is just dumb hate and blindness.
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And about that italic part, the people of Ukraine kicked out a corrupt puppet president who sold their land to the Kremlin, the previous occupiers (Sovjet, remember??). Maybe you should ask older people how much fun it was to live in the Sovjet Union and why these people don't want that to happen again.
And don't act if you care about democracy, the people, or what so ever. You people are all about anti-EU/US/NATO and/or pro-Russia. It's not something moral that drives you, it is just dumb hate and blindness.
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Maybe you should ask older people how much fun it was to live in the Nazi Union and why these people don't want that to happen again.
And don't act if you care about democracy, the people, or what so ever. You people are all about anti-Russia and/or pro-EU/US/NATO. It's not something moral that drives you, it is just dumb hate and blindness.
And don't act if you care about democracy, the people, or what so ever. You people are all about anti-Russia and/or pro-EU/US/NATO. It's not something moral that drives you, it is just dumb hate and blindness.