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German TV "ZDF" broadcasted this show about journalism on Ukraine:
It's in german with italian sub, but you can translate it in the settings.
It's in german with italian sub, but you can translate it in the settings.
There is nothing about freedom or justice behind the war in Syria and Iraq. To everyone's surprise, it's guess what? Natural Gas and money. You can go with your freedom and liberty to grammar school Charles, those kids there may be the only ones who still believe that. :D
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-geopolitics-of-gas-and-the-syrian-crisis-syrian-opposition-armed-to-thwart-construction-of-iran-iraq-syria-gas-pipeline/5337452
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-geopolitics-of-gas-and-the-syrian-crisis-syrian-opposition-armed-to-thwart-construction-of-iran-iraq-syria-gas-pipeline/5337452
so eng versions can be here...some ...
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=isil+usa+nabeel+naim
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=isil+usa+nabeel+naim
This pictures are prove that poor west part of country can not force east part by force to get to EU.
If the east part of the country refuse EU and want be close with russia, nobody can force them.
And people on the west should realized that east part of country is making their life standards, the eastern people are making Ukraine rich.
So poor plebs on the west should be happy and stop crying, EU will not help them, just eastern workers!
If the east part of the country refuse EU and want be close with russia, nobody can force them.
And people on the west should realized that east part of country is making their life standards, the eastern people are making Ukraine rich.
So poor plebs on the west should be happy and stop crying, EU will not help them, just eastern workers!
Do you have Charles something about Freedom and Liberty in Syria and Iraq or are you trying to hide behind Crimean issue every time you lack the facts?
Exxon have to love US sanctions against russia :-D
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-27/rosneft-says-exxon-arctic-well-strikes-oil.html
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-27/rosneft-says-exxon-arctic-well-strikes-oil.html
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"russian" propaganda :-D, Charles you dont believe me but I am sure you will believe to germans !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jSOfQ7tgTLg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jSOfQ7tgTLg
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All lies, cherry picking and bs! You just want to be blind. Blame one but defend the other for the same crimes. A lying hypocrite
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eh, you can't get any dumber... can you?
"There is nothing about freedom or justice behind the war in *********. To everyone's surprise, it's guess what? Natural Gas and money." - this is exactly what sane people tried to explain to you over the last 40 or so, pages... about the russian interest in Crimea, and Ukraine's industrial regions.
But you reject all that... because russia is "helping", and pretty much.. everyone else are "facists" :-o
These maps show only one thing, russian thieving interest in the prolonging of this Ukrainian crisis, and the stealing of territory, to keep it under their "sphere of influence".. which means supporting Moscow, not the nonsense you wrote, about "rich Ukraine" Ukraine was far from rich even without the russian intervention, it had the same problems that all ex-soviet states had only worse, as it was drained by Moscow's centralization more. Also, the only people forcing anything on anyone there, are the "pro"russian rebels, who are using weapons (force) against Ukrainians in Ukraine, and their own government. The regions are not a separate entity to refuse anything from anyone, they are armed men (russians), forcing their own agenda's. (which coincide with Moscow), EU is not forcing anything in Ukarine. You seem to forget the basics, its not EU wanting Ukraine, its Ukraine and Ukrainians wanting EU there, and their standards, not what Moscow has given them over the last half a century, as it clearly didn't work. Its not the west of Ukraine draining west, its Moscow draining it all, as it usually was and is.
COMPARED WITH THE REST OF THE FORMER SOVIET STATES, UKRAINE'S ECONOMY IS BARELY INCHING BY. RUSSIA'S, MEANWHILE, HAS GROWN 246% IN LESS THAN 20 YEARS.
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"There is nothing about freedom or justice behind the war in *********. To everyone's surprise, it's guess what? Natural Gas and money." - this is exactly what sane people tried to explain to you over the last 40 or so, pages... about the russian interest in Crimea, and Ukraine's industrial regions.
But you reject all that... because russia is "helping", and pretty much.. everyone else are "facists" :-o
These maps show only one thing, russian thieving interest in the prolonging of this Ukrainian crisis, and the stealing of territory, to keep it under their "sphere of influence".. which means supporting Moscow, not the nonsense you wrote, about "rich Ukraine" Ukraine was far from rich even without the russian intervention, it had the same problems that all ex-soviet states had only worse, as it was drained by Moscow's centralization more. Also, the only people forcing anything on anyone there, are the "pro"russian rebels, who are using weapons (force) against Ukrainians in Ukraine, and their own government. The regions are not a separate entity to refuse anything from anyone, they are armed men (russians), forcing their own agenda's. (which coincide with Moscow), EU is not forcing anything in Ukarine. You seem to forget the basics, its not EU wanting Ukraine, its Ukraine and Ukrainians wanting EU there, and their standards, not what Moscow has given them over the last half a century, as it clearly didn't work. Its not the west of Ukraine draining west, its Moscow draining it all, as it usually was and is.
COMPARED WITH THE REST OF THE FORMER SOVIET STATES, UKRAINE'S ECONOMY IS BARELY INCHING BY. RUSSIA'S, MEANWHILE, HAS GROWN 246% IN LESS THAN 20 YEARS.
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"this is exactly what sane people tried to explain to you over the last 40 or so, pages... about the russian interest in Crimea, and Ukraine's industrial regions. But you reject all that... because russia is "helping", and pretty much.. everyone else are "facists" :O"
So you are saying it is OK for USA & friends to bomb the hell out of Syria and Iraq but it is not OK for Russia to do the same in Ukraine. :) Double standards, anyone?
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So you are saying it is OK for USA & friends to bomb the hell out of Syria and Iraq but it is not OK for Russia to do the same in Ukraine. :) Double standards, anyone?
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Double standards, anyone?
Yes you! Troll
EDIT: but it is not OK for Russia to do the same in Ukraine.
And wait a moment! What is Russia doing? I thought you and your crappy media claimed Russia wasn't actively involved in bombing Ukrainians and that 'civil' war ... when did you decided to admit you are lying about it???
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Yes you! Troll
EDIT: but it is not OK for Russia to do the same in Ukraine.
And wait a moment! What is Russia doing? I thought you and your crappy media claimed Russia wasn't actively involved in bombing Ukrainians and that 'civil' war ... when did you decided to admit you are lying about it???
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Lying on the forum is your profession Charles. I never told that what you are accusing me of.
I told that Russia has there mentor help and that they allow for russian people defend their relatives there or just that country for free. So there is not official russian army, just many voluntaries and of course some of them can be professional on vacation.
If EU started a conflict in Czech republic and my government will not forbid me help, I would maybe go and help to our brothers too and for free...maybe, I just dont like guns :-). And.. of course that after EU states starting supplying Kiev coup government it can be possible that Russia is doing it too, but this is just opinion, I really dont know it.
Every part of this conflict was started by west and is escalating by west, we can be surprised that russia is trying to make chances for win there ex post - as reaction on EU and Kiev policy.
I told that Russia has there mentor help and that they allow for russian people defend their relatives there or just that country for free. So there is not official russian army, just many voluntaries and of course some of them can be professional on vacation.
If EU started a conflict in Czech republic and my government will not forbid me help, I would maybe go and help to our brothers too and for free...maybe, I just dont like guns :-). And.. of course that after EU states starting supplying Kiev coup government it can be possible that Russia is doing it too, but this is just opinion, I really dont know it.
Every part of this conflict was started by west and is escalating by west, we can be surprised that russia is trying to make chances for win there ex post - as reaction on EU and Kiev policy.
So you are saying it is OK for USA & friends to bomb the hell out of Syria and Iraq but it is not OK for Russia to do the same in Ukraine. :) Double standards, anyone?
I'm glad that you finally came to the conclusion that Russia is bombing the hell out of Ukraine ;)
But seriously, if you refer to the current airstrikes against IS, US and their allies have the approval of Syria and Iraq. If you refer to the Iraqi War, please show us a post where it was supported.
So, what is your (not double of course) standard then? Attacking another country is ok or not? :)
I told that Russia has there mentor help and that they allow for russian people defend their relatives there or just that country for free. So there is not official russian army, just many voluntaries and of course some of them can be professional on vacation
Kreml to citizen: "Oh, you wanna defend some remotely known people in a foreign country from [insert random reason here, preferably something with fascists]? Ok, but then take some guns, tanks and artillery with you and sshhhh, don't tell anyone!" :D :D :D
I'm glad that you finally came to the conclusion that Russia is bombing the hell out of Ukraine ;)
But seriously, if you refer to the current airstrikes against IS, US and their allies have the approval of Syria and Iraq. If you refer to the Iraqi War, please show us a post where it was supported.
So, what is your (not double of course) standard then? Attacking another country is ok or not? :)
I told that Russia has there mentor help and that they allow for russian people defend their relatives there or just that country for free. So there is not official russian army, just many voluntaries and of course some of them can be professional on vacation
Kreml to citizen: "Oh, you wanna defend some remotely known people in a foreign country from [insert random reason here, preferably something with fascists]? Ok, but then take some guns, tanks and artillery with you and sshhhh, don't tell anyone!" :D :D :D