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Subject: WikiLeaks Scandal

2010-12-08 02:51:07
and moral of it is that: people should not try to change established rules of dominant class (in this case governments)
why?
If the french revolution hadnt happen most of the civil rights and democratic states would not have existed until much later in history. The fall of monarchy has liberated a lot of people and created various new regimes that are fairer for the human kind, the regimes that arent slowly die as each day passes.
I really don't get your point...
2010-12-08 03:04:28
that was a moral of sophism, not the point i wanted to make...
which was basically the opposite...
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2010-12-08 09:19:51
It seems you can call someone a 'rapper' in sweden already when you pinch in women her butt or, like he did, have sex with a women without condom.
What a wierd country....

The most funny is that the women went complain to the police after she found out that he got the day after sex with another women.
If this was a case with priority for Europol....
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2010-12-08 10:49:59
Completely off topic, but I presume you intend 'rapist' instead of 'rapper'.

On topic: I fear this charge is just a cover. The 'free world' is going to need to define what 'free press' actually is. The world wouldn't function if there are no secrets at all....
2010-12-08 11:08:43
Maybe he meant a raping rapper?!
2010-12-08 16:31:01
Hackers Defend WikiLeaks by Attacking PayPal and PostFinance [UPDATE: Mastercard, Too]

A group of hackers connected to the online imageboard 4chan, often referred to as Anonymous, have retaliated against several sites that denied service to WikiLeaks shortly after the site started releasing secret embassy cables.

The site of Swiss bank PostFinance, which has closed the account of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, has been taken down and is still unavailable at the time of this writing. Hackers have also attacked PayPal but have only managed to take down the site’s blog, while the service remained operational.

A spokesman for the group behind the attacks on PayPal and PostFinance said they will target any website that’s “bowing down to government pressure.” The same group is allegedly behind the series of attacks collectively called “Operation: Payback,” which targeted anti-piracy organizations such as RIAA and MPAA.

Among other companies that have denied service to WikiLeaks are DNS service provider EveryDNS.net and Amazon. Most of these sites claim they haven’t shut down WikiLeaks’ account due to political pressure, instead naming technical or procedural reasons for denying the service to the WikiLeaks.

Update: Mastercard, which has also denied service to WikiLeaks, has had its site taken down by hackers, too.

mashable.com


The internetwar has started already ... I hope this is the beginning of a new start. 'Leaders' should understand now that we also need info and secrets are not kept secret anymore if enough people want to know the truth.
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2010-12-08 17:48:07
Huray! Soon will start first internet world war :)

or much wors, the terminator movie will become true :)
2010-12-09 11:07:42
WikiLeaks cables: Shell's grip on Nigerian state revealed

The oil giant Shell claimed it had inserted staff into all the main ministries of the Nigerian government, giving it access to politicians' every move in the oil-rich Niger Delta, according to a leaked US diplomatic cable.

The company's top executive in Nigeria told US diplomats that Shell had seconded employees to every relevant department and so knew "everything that was being done in those ministries". She boasted that the Nigerian government had "forgotten" about the extent of Shell's infiltration and was unaware of how much the company knew about its deliberations.

The cache of secret dispatches from Washington's embassies in Africa also revealed that the Anglo-Dutch oil firm swapped intelligence with the US, in one case providing US diplomats with the names of Nigerian politicians it suspected of supporting militant activity, and requesting information from the US on whether the militants had acquired anti-aircraft missiles.

Other cables released tonight reveal:

• US diplomats' fear that Kenya could erupt in violence worse than that experienced after the 2008 election unless rampant government corruption is tackled.

• America asked Uganda to let it know if its army intended to commit war crimes based on US intelligence – but did not try to prevent war crimes taking place.

• Washington's ambassador to the troubled African state of Eritrea described its president, Isaias Afwerki, as a cruel "unhinged dictator" whose regime was "one bullet away from implosion".

The latest revelations came on a day that saw hackers sympathetic to WikiLeaks target MasterCard and Visa over their decision to block payments to the whistleblowers' website.

The website's founder, Julian Assange, spent a second night in jail after a judge refused him bail prior to an extradition hearing to face questioning over sexual assault charges in Sweden.

Campaigners tonight said the revelation about Shell in Nigeria demonstrated the tangled links between the oil firm and politicians in the country where, despite billions of dollars in oil revenue, 70% of people live below the poverty line.

Cables from Nigeria show how Ann Pickard, then Shell's vice-president for sub-Saharan Africa, sought to share intelligence with the US government on militant activity and business competition in the contested Niger Delta – and how, with some prescience, she seemed reluctant to open up because of a suspicion the US government was "leaky".

But that did not prevent Pickard disclosing the company's reach into the Nigerian government when she met US ambassador Robin Renee Sanders, as recorded in a confidential memo from the US embassy in Abuja on 20 October 2009.

At the meeting, Pickard related how the company had obtained a letter showing that the Nigerian government had invited bids for oil concessions from China. She said the minister of state for petroleum resources, Odein Ajumogobia, had denied the letter had been sent but Shell knew similar correspondence had taken place with China and Russia.

The ambassador reported: "She said the GON [government of Nigeria] had forgotten that Shell had seconded people to all the relevant ministries and that Shell consequently had access to everything that was being done in those ministries."

Nigeria is Africa's leading oil producer and the eighth biggest exporter in the world, accounting for 8% of US oil imports. Although a recent UN report largely exonerated the company, critics accuse Shell, the biggest operator in the delta, and other companies, of causing widespread pollution and environmental damage in the region. Militant groups engaged in hostage-taking and sabotage have proliferated.

The WikiLeaks disclosure was today seized on by campaigners as evidence of Shell's vice-like grip on the country's oil wealth. "Shell and the government of Nigeria are two sides of the same coin," said Celestine AkpoBari, of Social Action Nigeria. "Shell is everywhere. They have an eye and an ear in every ministry of Nigeria. They have people on the payroll in every community, which is why they get away with everything. They are more powerful than the Nigerian government."

The criticism was echoed by Ben Amunwa of the London-based oil watchdog Platform. "Shell claims to have nothing to do with Nigerian politics," he said. "In reality, Shell works deep inside the system, and has long exploited political channels in Nigeria to its own advantage."

Nigeria tonight strenuously denied the claim. Levi Ajuonoma, a spokesman for the state-owned Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation, said: "Shell does not control the government of Nigeria and has never controlled the government of Nigeria. This cable is the mere interpretation of one individual. It is absolutely untrue, an absolute falsehood and utterly misleading. It is an attempt to demean the government and we will not stand for that. I don't think anybody will lose sleep over it."

Another cable released today, from the US consulate in Lagos and dated 19 September 2008, claims that Pickard told US diplomats that two named regional politicians were behind unrest in the Rivers state. She also asked if the American diplomats had any intelligence on shipments of surface to air missiles (SAMs) to militants in the Niger Delta.

"She claimed Shell has 'intelligence' that one to three SAMs may have been shipped to Nigerian militant groups, although she seemed somewhat sceptical of that information and wondered if such sensitive systems would last long in the harsh environment of the Niger Delta," the cable said.

Pickard also said Shell had learned from the British government details of Russian energy company Gazprom's ambitions to enter the Nigerian market. In June last year, Gazprom signed a $2.5bn (£1.5bn) deal with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation to build refineries, pipelines and gas power stations.

Shell put a request to the US consulate for potentially sensitive intelligence about Gazprom, a possible rival, which she said had secured a promise from the Nigerian government of access to 17trn cubic feet of natural gas – roughly a tenth of Nigeria's entire reserves. "Pickard said that amount of gas was only available if the GON were to take concessions currently assigned to other oil companies and give them to Gazprom. She assumed Shell would be the GON's prime target." Pickard alleged that a conversation with a Nigerian government minister had been secretly recorded by the Russians. Shortly after the meeting in the minister's office she received a verbatim transcript of the meeting "from Russia", according to the memo.

The cable concludes with the observation that the oil executive had tended to be guarded in discussion with US officials. "Pickard has repeatedly told us she does not like to talk to USG [US government] officials because the USG is 'leaky'." She may be concerned that ... bad news about Shell's Nigerian operations will leak out."

Shell declined to comment on the allegations, saying: "You are seeking our views on a leaked cable allegedly containing information about a private conversation involving a Shell representative, but have declined to share this cable or to permit us sufficient time to obtain information from the person you say took part in the conversation on the part of Shell. In view of this, we cannot comment on the alleged contents of the cable, including the correctness or incorrectness of any statements you say it contains."

www.guardian.co.uk
2010-12-09 15:23:20
US pushed Germany not to arrest CIA agents: Cables

WASHINGTON: Leaked documents on Wednesday showed that Washington put intense pressure on Berlin to not enforce arrest warrants against CIA agents involved in the 2003 abduction of a German citizen mistakenly believed to be a terrorist.

The information, made public in diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks and first reported by the “New York Times,” involved Khaled Al Masri, a German citizen of Lebanese origin.

Masri, an unemployed car salesman, was captured in late December 2003 as he entered Macedonia on vacation.

Local authorities mistook him for an Al Qaeda operative with a similar name and turned him over to the CIA.

Masri said he was held and tortured in a secret US prison in Afghanistan before US agents realised their mistake and released him, five months later, on an Albanian roadside.

Thirteen operatives believed to be Central Intelligence Agency agents were eventually charged in indictments issued in Munich as well as in Spain, which was involved because investigators concluded that the plane transporting Masri travelled through Spanish territory.

In a February 2007 cable classified "Secret," and titled "Al-Masri case — Chancellery aware of USG concerns," the US deputy chief of mission in Berlin, John Koenig, emphasized to German Deputy National Security Adviser Rolf Nikel "that issuance of international arrest warrants would have a negative impact on our bilateral relationship."

Koening "pointed out that our intention was not to threaten Germany, but rather to urge that the German Government weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the US." The dispatch was written by William Timken, Washington's envoy to Berlin.

Masri's is one of the best-known cases of the "extraordinary renditions" undertaken by the CIA as part of the "war on terror."

gulftoday.ae
2010-12-09 15:49:19
I dont understand who benefits from those releases? We did just fine when we didnt know this "top secret" leaked stuff.

2010-12-09 15:52:53
Maybe it's good to know we can't trust our ally that much, specially not if you have the wrong name, color and/or religion ...

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2010-12-09 16:17:04
ofcourse you don't have benifts from those releases if you go from shool to the pub and have not other intrests.
But for people who are intrested in fair society and clean Politics it is intresting to know how our governments think and work
2010-12-09 16:18:45
But for people who are intrested in fair society and clean Politics

Humanity always dreamed of UTOPIA! But it is impossible to "get there"
2010-12-09 16:19:19
Then tell me how exactly this information can be interesting and useful, what exactly can you do with it? Nothing, this only harms foreign relations.

Of course, this by the way is a gigantic blunder of the CIA. CIA should be punished indeed, by paying a huge fine to the person who got prisoned etc.
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2010-12-09 16:22:05
ofcourse it is impossible to get there, that is why this scandle is good to remember us at that.
2010-12-09 16:30:49
Personally I can't do something with that information, but it can change my vieuw on how the world works :)